Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-09 Thread Rob B
At 10:41 AM 6/12/2005, James Gray wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:20, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 08:41 +1100, Matt Moor wrote: Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-06 Thread James Gray
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 17:36, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 14:45 +1100, James Gray wrote: At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Matt Moor
Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them reaching 100Mbit/s, though - and I'd be really surprised if they did, given the number of pairs available in your

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 08:41 +1100, Matt Moor wrote: Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them reaching 100Mbit/s, though - and I'd be really surprised if

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread James Gray
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:20, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 08:41 +1100, Matt Moor wrote: Hi Richard, This was one of those buzz-wordy type things a few years ago, and some of the big consumer network device companies put out product. I didn't hear about any of them

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote: AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the public network - it does not apply. And by connected to

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Michael Fox
And speaking of networking... Australian PC User issue Jan 2006 has a hardware review about the Netcomm NP210 HomePlug devices. These units plug into a powerpoint and allow you to network between rooms using your powerpoints. Of course it ends up being slower then wireless anyways, let alone

RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Rowling, Jill
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 1:59 PMTo: slug@slug.org.auSubject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? And speaking of networking...Australian PC User issue Jan 2006 has a hardware review about the Netcomm NP210 HomePlug devices.These units plug

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Glen Turner
James Gray wrote: And by connected to the public network they mean in any way through any device. So even if you isolate your network from the public one with a router or modem etc, you're still deemed to be connected. Not sure if you're still deemed to be connected if the external/public

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread James Gray
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 13:35, Robert Collins wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 10:41 +1100, James Gray wrote: AIUI austel certification only kicks in if you are connecting the thing to the phone network. If you happen to have a bunch of copper in the walls, that is not connected to the

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 14:45 +1100, James Gray wrote: At tleast this was how the regs were written back in '95 when I was AUSTel Certified. Things may have changed - usual disclaimers apply. Jesus thats scarey. Why isn't my power socket AUSTel certified ? Because the assumption is

RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-05 Thread Rowling, Jill
: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? Sorry, I think my irony was not clear enough. I'm not saying the austel standards based/useless/wrong. I was pointing out that my *power supply* is electrical

[SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-04 Thread Richard Hayes
Dear List, I have seen claims that normal twisted pair telephone can work up to 100MBits/Sec. Has anyone had any experience with it in the real world? http://www.homepna.org/ -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob:

RE: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-04 Thread Rowling, Jill
continuously, or for running 100baseT which is slower? Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Richard Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 5:08 PM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking? Dear List, I have seen claims

Re: [SLUG] [ot] Using telephone wiring for networking?

2005-12-04 Thread Richard
depends if its CAT 3 (most common cable used) or CAT 5 (most new installs have this) CAT 3 info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-3 CAT 5 info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat-5 In short if its CAT 5 yes 100Mb/s can be done if its CAT 3 your restricted to 10Mb/s Telephone cable