[SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Jeff Grima
Hello,

This is my first post. I hope this is a good question.

There is a business in Sydney that is re-branding SME (contribs.org aka
e-smith) and claiming it as there own.

What (if any) is the best course of action to take against this company?

A bit more information.

This company sells pre-installed SMEserver linux boxes and sells
support.

I know that is not a crime
and i know rebranding some FOSS software isnt a crime also
but the bad part is that they claim they developed the software inhouse.

They prey on the NOT linux-savvy and their ignorance to the
technology.

They also do a very poor job of supporting the product.

I am not sure of the appropriateness of posting the companies details
here but I will do so if enough people think it is appropriate.

Also I have alot more information regarding there services.


Thanks for your time,
Jeff Grima

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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread James Purser
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 17:53 +1000, Jeff Grima wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is my first post. I hope this is a good question.
 
 There is a business in Sydney that is re-branding SME (contribs.org aka
 e-smith) and claiming it as there own.
 
 What (if any) is the best course of action to take against this company?
 
 A bit more information.
 
 This company sells pre-installed SMEserver linux boxes and sells
 support.
 
 I know that is not a crime
 and i know rebranding some FOSS software isnt a crime also
 but the bad part is that they claim they developed the software inhouse.
 
 They prey on the NOT linux-savvy and their ignorance to the
 technology.
 
 They also do a very poor job of supporting the product.
 
 I am not sure of the appropriateness of posting the companies details
 here but I will do so if enough people think it is appropriate.
 
 Also I have alot more information regarding there services.
 
 
 Thanks for your time,
 Jeff Grima
 
It depends on what license the software was released under. If it's the
GPL then the company has to provide the source along with the servers as
well as keeping all copyright attributions.

There may be a case for deceptive practices if they have removed
copyright notices and replaced them with their own. Have you tried
talking with the company and finding out whether or not they are
planning on meeting their requirements under the license?
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Benno
On Tue Jul 26, 2005 at 18:34:26 +1000, James Purser wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 17:53 +1000, Jeff Grima wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This is my first post. I hope this is a good question.
 
 There is a business in Sydney that is re-branding SME (contribs.org aka
 e-smith) and claiming it as there own.
 
 What (if any) is the best course of action to take against this company?
 
 A bit more information.
 
 This company sells pre-installed SMEserver linux boxes and sells
 support.
 
 I know that is not a crime
 and i know rebranding some FOSS software isnt a crime also
 but the bad part is that they claim they developed the software inhouse.
 
 They prey on the NOT linux-savvy and their ignorance to the
 technology.
 
 They also do a very poor job of supporting the product.
 
 I am not sure of the appropriateness of posting the companies details
 here but I will do so if enough people think it is appropriate.
 
 Also I have alot more information regarding there services.
 
 
 Thanks for your time,
 Jeff Grima
 
It depends on what license the software was released under. If it's the
GPL then the company has to provide the source along with the servers as
well as keeping all copyright attributions.

That is not true. It needs to make the source available to those that purchase
the server. That is different to providing it.

Cheers,

Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Jeff Grima
I am doing some further investigation into this,

What are the things to look for?

So far I am looking for;
The removal of copyright/copyleft text
Changes to the code and selling it without providing source

On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 19:13 +1000, Benno wrote:
 On Tue Jul 26, 2005 at 18:34:26 +1000, James Purser wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 17:53 +1000, Jeff Grima wrote:
  Hello,
  
  This is my first post. I hope this is a good question.
  
  There is a business in Sydney that is re-branding SME (contribs.org aka
  e-smith) and claiming it as there own.
  
  What (if any) is the best course of action to take against this company?
  
  A bit more information.
  
  This company sells pre-installed SMEserver linux boxes and sells
  support.
  
  I know that is not a crime
  and i know rebranding some FOSS software isnt a crime also
  but the bad part is that they claim they developed the software inhouse.
  
  They prey on the NOT linux-savvy and their ignorance to the
  technology.
  
  They also do a very poor job of supporting the product.
  
  I am not sure of the appropriateness of posting the companies details
  here but I will do so if enough people think it is appropriate.
  
  Also I have alot more information regarding there services.
  
  
  Thanks for your time,
  Jeff Grima
  
 It depends on what license the software was released under. If it's the
 GPL then the company has to provide the source along with the servers as
 well as keeping all copyright attributions.
 
 That is not true. It needs to make the source available to those that purchase
 the server. That is different to providing it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Benno

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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On 26/7/2005, Jeff Grima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am doing some further investigation into this,

What are the things to look for?

So far I am looking for;
The removal of copyright/copyleft text

This is the most serious.

Changes to the code and selling it without providing source

No, redistributing ANY GPL code, including code modified by them, without
making the source available (not necessarily providing it).
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Benno
On Tue Jul 26, 2005 at 10:24:26 +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:

On 26/7/2005, Jeff Grima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am doing some further investigation into this,

What are the things to look for?

So far I am looking for;
The removal of copyright/copyleft text

This is the most serious.

Changes to the code and selling it without providing source

No, redistributing ANY GPL code, including code modified by them, without
making the source available (not necessarily providing it).

But they only need to make it available to customers. So to know this
you would have to actually have purchased a server and asked for the code.
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Jeff Grima
Thanks,

Before this gets into a debate about the GPL I want to just clarify that
SMEserver is distributed under the GPL

see;

http://www.contribs.org/contribs/bobk/SME_Manual/chpt-01.2.html

and is actually in the web interface, so if that is removed we have a
problem.

also this site puts it plain and simple about the gpl.

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html

I am not saying the companies name right now but will be tomorrow.. I
just want to ring and hear him say he made the software first person as
I have only heard of them saying it via third person.

thanks

On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 10:24 +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 On 26/7/2005, Jeff Grima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am doing some further investigation into this,
 
 What are the things to look for?
 
 So far I am looking for;
 The removal of copyright/copyleft text
 
 This is the most serious.
 
 Changes to the code and selling it without providing source
 
 No, redistributing ANY GPL code, including code modified by them, without
 making the source available (not necessarily providing it).

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RE: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Simon
I deal with a company that does this, may be the one referred to here,
not sure until a name is given, however in the Support, Warranty and
Licence information is this statement:



Communications Server contains hundreds of

individual software components, such as linux Redhat and e-smith

server, each of which was written individually and copyrighted

individually. All this software is licensed under the terms of

the GNU General Public License which allows you to copy,

distribute or modify the software subject to GNU General Public

License. All the individual software components, taken together

constitute the Software Programs.









-Original Message-

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it





Thanks,



Before this gets into a debate about the GPL I want to just clarify that
SMEserver is distributed under the GPL



see;



http://www.contribs.org/contribs/bobk/SME_Manual/chpt-01.2.html



and is actually in the web interface, so if that is removed we have a
problem.



also this site puts it plain and simple about the gpl.



http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html



I am not saying the companies name right now but will be tomorrow.. I
just want to ring and hear him say he made the software first person as
I have only heard of them saying it via third person.



thanks



On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 10:24 +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:

 On 26/7/2005, Jeff Grima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I am doing some further investigation into this,

 

 What are the things to look for?

 

 So far I am looking for;

 The removal of copyright/copyleft text



 This is the most serious.



 Changes to the code and selling it without providing source



 No, redistributing ANY GPL code, including code modified by them,

 without making the source available (not necessarily providing it).



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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Benno
On Tue Jul 26, 2005 at 19:32:16 +1000, Jeff Grima wrote:
Thanks,

Before this gets into a debate about the GPL I want to just clarify that
SMEserver is distributed under the GPL

see;

http://www.contribs.org/contribs/bobk/SME_Manual/chpt-01.2.html

and is actually in the web interface, so if that is removed we have a
problem.

also this site puts it plain and simple about the gpl.

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html

I am not saying the companies name right now but will be tomorrow.. I
just want to ring and hear him say he made the software first person as
I have only heard of them saying it via third person.


Are you actually a customer of the company though? There is no way you
can check any of those facts unless you have actually purchased
something from the company.

Benno
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Jeff Grima
I my self am not a customer but I know someone who is.

On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 20:29 +1000, Benno wrote:
 On Tue Jul 26, 2005 at 19:32:16 +1000, Jeff Grima wrote:
 Thanks,
 
 Before this gets into a debate about the GPL I want to just clarify that
 SMEserver is distributed under the GPL
 
 see;
 
 http://www.contribs.org/contribs/bobk/SME_Manual/chpt-01.2.html
 
 and is actually in the web interface, so if that is removed we have a
 problem.
 
 also this site puts it plain and simple about the gpl.
 
 http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-violation.html
 
 I am not saying the companies name right now but will be tomorrow.. I
 just want to ring and hear him say he made the software first person as
 I have only heard of them saying it via third person.
 
 
 Are you actually a customer of the company though? There is no way you
 can check any of those facts unless you have actually purchased
 something from the company.
 
 Benno

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[SLUG] SLUG Monthly Meeting: Friday, July 29, 2005.

2005-07-26 Thread Chris Deigan
When:
Friday, July 29, 6:00pm - 11:59pm
Where:
UTS Broadway

SLUG's monthly meeting featuring talks and SLUG-Chat. Meetings are open
to the general public, and free of charge.

Main room: CB01.04.06 (Building 1, Level 4, Room 6)
SLUG-Chat room: CB02.05.30 (Building 2, Level 5, Room 30)

General Talk: Stuart Rushton -- A case study of how Linux is used
throughout the Lorien Novalis school

Special Interest Talk: Jamie Honan -- Apache 2.0 mod_perl wrap-up

As usual, SLUG-Chat (formerly SLUGlets) will be running in another room
(CB02.05.30) during the 2nd half of the meeting for those who do not
wish to attend the 2nd talk.

6:30pm: Doors Open
6:45pm: The Usual Suspects
QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me
lately? + SLUG News  Discussion
7:00pm (approx): General Talk
Linux at Lorien Novalis School
8:00pm (approx): Break
Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge.
8:20pm (approx): Split into two groups for:
  * Special Interest: Apache 2.0 mod_perl wrap-up
  * SLUG-Chat: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free
Software. Suggestion - Software Freedom Day plans, home
firewalls.
9:30pm (approx) Dinner
Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head.


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[SLUG] VPN solutions

2005-07-26 Thread jam
Hi
I need to do this for a customer:

[NT workstation 1]
   .
[NT workstation 2]---192.168.1.x[SuSE9.3]=bridge==[adsl]..internet
   .
[NT workstation 3]

and

internet.[adsl-router]--[NT workstation 4]

I need to establish a VPN from 4 to (1,2,3)
I looked at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amvpn
perfect, except a linux box at each end.

I looked at SuSE's pptpd. All in German, seems to be very complicated and 
wants to use a modem-ppp connection.

I looked at openswan. Complicated again.

The easiest solution, a router/adsl at each end to do VPN-VPN is hard for non 
technical reasons. Anybody please, a simple linux-vpn to windows-vpn
both sides have internet connectivity.
Thanks
James
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Re: [SLUG] VPN solutions

2005-07-26 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 21:00 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 I need to do this for a customer:
 
 [NT workstation 1]
.
 [NT workstation 2]---192.168.1.x[SuSE9.3]=bridge==[adsl]..internet
.
 [NT workstation 3]
 
 and
 
 internet.[adsl-router]--[NT workstation 4]
 
 I need to establish a VPN from 4 to (1,2,3)
 I looked at http://sourceforge.net/projects/amvpn
 perfect, except a linux box at each end.
 
 I looked at SuSE's pptpd. All in German, seems to be very complicated and 
 wants to use a modem-ppp connection.

PPTP under linux isn't really all that hard. Check out the docs at
http://www.poptop.org/ . It definitely doesn't require a ppp interface
to run the server.

 The easiest solution, a router/adsl at each end to do VPN-VPN is hard for non 
 technical reasons. Anybody please, a simple linux-vpn to windows-vpn
 both sides have internet connectivity.

I wanted to suggest OpenVPN ( http://openvpn.net/ ), but checking the
site briefly suggests it only runs on Windows  NT. Kind of a shame,
because it does everything you need, is very easy to get up and running
(I have an almost identical setup to what you describe running at home)
and I'd probably trust it more than PPTP.

I'm starting to think that PPTP might be your best option.

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Re: [SLUG] VPN solutions

2005-07-26 Thread James Fleming
 I wanted to suggest OpenVPN ( http://openvpn.net/ ), but checking the
 site briefly suggests it only runs on Windows  NT.
Very definitely not the case; I'm using it right now to secure the
wireless connection from my Fedora-powered laptop to my RedHat gateway
server (yes, I need to upgrade the gateway).
AFAIK, it runs on pretty much any kind of *nix, and is surprisingly easy
to get running.

Incidentally, if anybody has any tips for getting it to do the same
under Windows, I'd love to hear them...


Cheers,
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[SLUG] Open VPN.

2005-07-26 Thread Peter Hardy
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 00:30 +1000, James Fleming wrote:
  I wanted to suggest OpenVPN ( http://openvpn.net/ ), but checking the
  site briefly suggests it only runs on Windows  NT.
 Very definitely not the case; I'm using it right now to secure the
 wireless connection from my Fedora-powered laptop to my RedHat gateway
 server (yes, I need to upgrade the gateway).
 AFAIK, it runs on pretty much any kind of *nix, and is surprisingly easy
 to get running.

Sorry, what I meant to say is that it runs on a wide variety of
operating systems, including windows 2000 and XP, but not NT.

I have an OpenVPN network with Linux, BSD and Windows XP endpoints.

 Incidentally, if anybody has any tips for getting it to do the same
 under Windows, I'd love to hear them...

From memory it was fairly simple to set up a routed network following
the directions in the HOWTO[1] and win32 install notes[2]. But we did
have a lot of problems using certificate authentication, and ended up
going with a shared key instead. It was a while ago though, and I didn't
do any of the work on the Windows end (that box lives in Poland..).

[1]: http://openvpn.net/howto.html
[2]: http://openvpn.net/INSTALL-win32.html

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Re: [SLUG] Open VPN.

2005-07-26 Thread David Kempe

Peter Hardy wrote:

From memory it was fairly simple to set up a routed network following

the directions in the HOWTO[1] and win32 install notes[2]. But we did
have a lot of problems using certificate authentication, and ended up
going with a shared key instead. It was a while ago though, and I didn't
do any of the work on the Windows end (that box lives in Poland..).


Tis pretty straight forward.
I have got certs working fine. The easy-rsa scripts that come with 
openvpn are a great starting point.
openvpn gui makes it easy for windows users to connect, change passwords 
and do other stuff.

http://openvpn.se I think.
There are guis for macOSX and linux as well.
I want to get it working with ifup-down sometime for debian.

dave
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[SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Edwin Humphries
We're just converting over from our web server being a single site 
server (root in /var/www/html/) to also hosting an Intranet/Extranet 
site. So we want to move the site over to /var/www/html/website, but 
although we've added a new virtual server in httpd.conf, it still goes 
back to the /var/www/html/ location. Can anyone offer some ideas?


It's Redhat ES3. The httpd.conf file (stripped) is attached

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ServerTokens OS
ServerRoot /etc/httpd
PidFile run/httpd.pid
Timeout 300
KeepAlive Off
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 15
IfModule prefork.c
StartServers   8
MinSpareServers5
MaxSpareServers   20
MaxClients   150
MaxRequestsPerChild  1000
/IfModule
IfModule worker.c
StartServers 2
MaxClients 150
MinSpareThreads 25
MaxSpareThreads 75
ThreadsPerChild 25
MaxRequestsPerChild  0
/IfModule
Listen 0.0.0.0:80
LoadModule access_module modules/mod_access.so
LoadModule auth_module modules/mod_auth.so
LoadModule auth_anon_module modules/mod_auth_anon.so
LoadModule auth_dbm_module modules/mod_auth_dbm.so
LoadModule auth_digest_module modules/mod_auth_digest.so
LoadModule include_module modules/mod_include.so
LoadModule log_config_module modules/mod_log_config.so
LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so
LoadModule mime_magic_module modules/mod_mime_magic.so
LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so
LoadModule expires_module modules/mod_expires.so
LoadModule deflate_module modules/mod_deflate.so
LoadModule headers_module modules/mod_headers.so
LoadModule usertrack_module modules/mod_usertrack.so
LoadModule unique_id_module modules/mod_unique_id.so
LoadModule setenvif_module modules/mod_setenvif.so
LoadModule mime_module modules/mod_mime.so
LoadModule dav_module modules/mod_dav.so
LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so
LoadModule autoindex_module modules/mod_autoindex.so
LoadModule asis_module modules/mod_asis.so
LoadModule info_module modules/mod_info.so
LoadModule dav_fs_module modules/mod_dav_fs.so
LoadModule vhost_alias_module modules/mod_vhost_alias.so
LoadModule negotiation_module modules/mod_negotiation.so
LoadModule dir_module modules/mod_dir.so
LoadModule imap_module modules/mod_imap.so
LoadModule actions_module modules/mod_actions.so
LoadModule speling_module modules/mod_speling.so
LoadModule userdir_module modules/mod_userdir.so
LoadModule alias_module modules/mod_alias.so
LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so
LoadModule proxy_ftp_module modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so
LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so
LoadModule proxy_connect_module modules/mod_proxy_connect.so
LoadModule cache_module modules/mod_cache.so
LoadModule suexec_module modules/mod_suexec.so
LoadModule disk_cache_module modules/mod_disk_cache.so
LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
LoadModule mem_cache_module modules/mod_mem_cache.so
LoadModule cgi_module modules/mod_cgi.so
User apache
Group apache
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UseCanonicalName Off
DocumentRoot /var/www/html
Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
/Directory
Directory /var/www/html
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
IfModule mod_userdir.c
UserDir disable
/IfModule
DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var
AccessFileName .htaccess
Files ~ ^\.ht
Order allow,deny
Deny from all
/Files
TypesConfig /etc/mime.types
DefaultType text/plain
IfModule mod_mime_magic.c
#   MIMEMagicFile /usr/share/magic.mime
MIMEMagicFile conf/magic
/IfModule
HostnameLookups Off
ErrorLog logs/error_log
LogLevel warn
LogFormat %h %l %u %t \%r\ %s %b \%{Referer}i\ \%{User-Agent}i\ 
combined
LogFormat %h %l %u %t \%r\ %s %b common
LogFormat %{Referer}i - %U referer
LogFormat %{User-agent}i agent
CustomLog logs/access_log combined
ServerSignature On
Alias /icons/ /var/www/icons/
Directory /var/www/icons
Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
Alias /manual /var/www/manual
Directory /var/www/manual
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
IfModule mod_dav_fs.c
# Location of the WebDAV lock database.
DAVLockDB /var/lib/dav/lockdb
/IfModule
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/
Directory /var/www/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Dean Hamstead

put  's around the path

add

ServerName www.ironstone.com.au

if your running only one site, you dont need virtual hosts.

Dean

Edwin Humphries wrote:
We're just converting over from our web server being a single site 
server (root in /var/www/html/) to also hosting an Intranet/Extranet 
site. So we want to move the site over to /var/www/html/website, but 
although we've added a new virtual server in httpd.conf, it still goes 
back to the /var/www/html/ location. Can anyone offer some ideas?


It's Redhat ES3. The httpd.conf file (stripped) is attached




ServerTokens OS
ServerRoot /etc/httpd
PidFile run/httpd.pid
Timeout 300
KeepAlive Off
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 15
IfModule prefork.c
StartServers   8
MinSpareServers5
MaxSpareServers   20
MaxClients   150
MaxRequestsPerChild  1000
/IfModule
IfModule worker.c
StartServers 2
MaxClients 150
MinSpareThreads 25
MaxSpareThreads 75
ThreadsPerChild 25
MaxRequestsPerChild  0
/IfModule
Listen 0.0.0.0:80
LoadModule access_module modules/mod_access.so
LoadModule auth_module modules/mod_auth.so
LoadModule auth_anon_module modules/mod_auth_anon.so
LoadModule auth_dbm_module modules/mod_auth_dbm.so
LoadModule auth_digest_module modules/mod_auth_digest.so
LoadModule include_module modules/mod_include.so
LoadModule log_config_module modules/mod_log_config.so
LoadModule env_module modules/mod_env.so
LoadModule mime_magic_module modules/mod_mime_magic.so
LoadModule cern_meta_module modules/mod_cern_meta.so
LoadModule expires_module modules/mod_expires.so
LoadModule deflate_module modules/mod_deflate.so
LoadModule headers_module modules/mod_headers.so
LoadModule usertrack_module modules/mod_usertrack.so
LoadModule unique_id_module modules/mod_unique_id.so
LoadModule setenvif_module modules/mod_setenvif.so
LoadModule mime_module modules/mod_mime.so
LoadModule dav_module modules/mod_dav.so
LoadModule status_module modules/mod_status.so
LoadModule autoindex_module modules/mod_autoindex.so
LoadModule asis_module modules/mod_asis.so
LoadModule info_module modules/mod_info.so
LoadModule dav_fs_module modules/mod_dav_fs.so
LoadModule vhost_alias_module modules/mod_vhost_alias.so
LoadModule negotiation_module modules/mod_negotiation.so
LoadModule dir_module modules/mod_dir.so
LoadModule imap_module modules/mod_imap.so
LoadModule actions_module modules/mod_actions.so
LoadModule speling_module modules/mod_speling.so
LoadModule userdir_module modules/mod_userdir.so
LoadModule alias_module modules/mod_alias.so
LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so
LoadModule proxy_module modules/mod_proxy.so
LoadModule proxy_ftp_module modules/mod_proxy_ftp.so
LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so
LoadModule proxy_connect_module modules/mod_proxy_connect.so
LoadModule cache_module modules/mod_cache.so
LoadModule suexec_module modules/mod_suexec.so
LoadModule disk_cache_module modules/mod_disk_cache.so
LoadModule file_cache_module modules/mod_file_cache.so
LoadModule mem_cache_module modules/mod_mem_cache.so
LoadModule cgi_module modules/mod_cgi.so
User apache
Group apache
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UseCanonicalName Off
DocumentRoot /var/www/html
Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
/Directory
Directory /var/www/html
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
IfModule mod_userdir.c
UserDir disable
/IfModule
DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var
AccessFileName .htaccess
Files ~ ^\.ht
Order allow,deny
Deny from all
/Files
TypesConfig /etc/mime.types
DefaultType text/plain
IfModule mod_mime_magic.c
#   MIMEMagicFile /usr/share/magic.mime
MIMEMagicFile conf/magic
/IfModule
HostnameLookups Off
ErrorLog logs/error_log
LogLevel warn
LogFormat %h %l %u %t \%r\ %s %b \%{Referer}i\ \%{User-Agent}i\ 
combined
LogFormat %h %l %u %t \%r\ %s %b common
LogFormat %{Referer}i - %U referer
LogFormat %{User-agent}i agent
CustomLog logs/access_log combined
ServerSignature On
Alias /icons/ /var/www/icons/
Directory /var/www/icons
Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
Alias /manual /var/www/manual
Directory /var/www/manual
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
IfModule mod_dav_fs.c
# Location of the WebDAV lock database.
DAVLockDB /var/lib/dav/lockdb
/IfModule
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/
Directory /var/www/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
IndexOptions FancyIndexing VersionSort NameWidth=*
AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip

AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif) text/*
AddIconByType (IMG,/icons/image2.gif) image/*
AddIconByType (SND,/icons/sound2.gif) audio/*
AddIconByType (VID,/icons/movie.gif) 

Fwd: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread James Polley
really should remember to CC the list..

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From: James Polley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jul 27, 2005 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On 7/27/05, Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198

 VirtualHost www.ironstone.com.au
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/
 HostNameLookups off
 /VirtualHost

VirtualHost 202.173.184.198
ServerName www.ironstone.com.au
ServerAlias ironstone.com.au
DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/
HostNameLookups off
/VirtualHost


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RE: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Roger Barnes
Hi Edwin,

 We're just converting over from our web server being a single 
 site server (root in /var/www/html/) to also hosting an 
 Intranet/Extranet site. So we want to move the site over to 
 /var/www/html/website, but although we've added a new virtual 
 server in httpd.conf, it still goes back to the 
 /var/www/html/ location. Can anyone offer some ideas?

Not sure if the following will work, but it's based on referring to a working 
vhost config (apache 1.3)...

VirtualHost 202.173.184.198
ServerName www.ironstone.com.au
DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/
HostNameLookups off
/VirtualHost

HTH,
- Rog
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Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Peter Rundle

Edwin,

When you are using NameVirtualHost (I.E HTTP/1.1) you need to give the 
site a name. something like;


NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80

VirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ServerName www.ironstome.com.au
  DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/
  ErrorLog logs/ironstone-error_log
  CustomLog logs/ironstone-access_log common
/VirtualHost


VirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ServerName ww2.ironstome.com.au
  DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website2/
  ErrorLog logs/ironstone2-error_log
  CustomLog logs/ironstone2-access_log common
/VirtualHost



HTH

P.
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Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Edwin Humphries

Guys,

Thanks for your input. I've tried all that, and it still stubbornly 
loads what in the document root directory, rather than the test file in 
the /website directory.


Does it make any difference in all this that the actual server is on an 
internal IP behind a port-forwarding firewall?


Peter Rundle wrote:

Edwin,

When you are using NameVirtualHost (I.E HTTP/1.1) you need to give the 
site a name. something like;


NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80

VirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ServerName www.ironstome.com.au
  DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website/
  ErrorLog logs/ironstone-error_log
  CustomLog logs/ironstone-access_log common
/VirtualHost


VirtualHost 202.173.184.198:80
  ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ServerName ww2.ironstome.com.au
  DocumentRoot /var/www/html/website2/
  ErrorLog logs/ironstone2-error_log
  CustomLog logs/ironstone2-access_log common
/VirtualHost



HTH

P.


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Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Edwin Humphries

Roger,

Well, that worked (thanks for that), but on restarting httpd, I got an 
error message:


Starting httpd: [Wed Jul 27 10:13:37 2005] [warn] NameVirtualHost 
202.173.184.198:0 has no VirtualHosts.


Roger Barnes wrote:

Hi Edwin,

Try VirtualHost * instead, not sure if it will help, but worth a try.

- R 




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Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2005 9:39 AM
To: Peter Rundle
Cc: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

Guys,

Thanks for your input. I've tried all that, and it still 
stubbornly loads what in the document root directory, rather 
than the test file in the /website directory.


Does it make any difference in all this that the actual 
server is on an internal IP behind a port-forwarding firewall?


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RE: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Roger Barnes
 Well, that worked (thanks for that), but on restarting httpd, 
 I got an error message:
 
 Starting httpd: [Wed Jul 27 10:13:37 2005] [warn] 
 NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:0 has no VirtualHosts.
 

You don't need that line anymore in this case.   Best practices might dictate 
another approach (anyone?), but removing the NameVirtualHost line should be ok.

- Rog

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Re: [SLUG] Apache virtual server configuration

2005-07-26 Thread Edwin Humphries

Roger,

Thanks for that; all issues now resolved

Roger Barnes wrote:
Well, that worked (thanks for that), but on restarting httpd, 
I got an error message:


Starting httpd: [Wed Jul 27 10:13:37 2005] [warn] 
NameVirtualHost 202.173.184.198:0 has no VirtualHosts.





You don't need that line anymore in this case.   Best practices might dictate 
another approach (anyone?), but removing the NameVirtualHost line should be ok.

- Rog



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Facsimile: +61 (0)2 4233 2299
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Re: [SLUG] Company rebranding FOSS and selling it

2005-07-26 Thread Thomas Schröder
Hi

In the issue 07/2005 of the Linux Magazin (German issue) there is a story
about Harald Welte who developed some stuff of the netfilter (netfilter.org).
He sued a lot of companies which violates the GPL when they put the netfilter
in their router. He started gpl-violations.org ; maybe there are some hints.

Cheers,
Thomas

Am Dienstag, 26. Juli 2005 09:53 schrieb Jeff Grima:
 Hello,

 This is my first post. I hope this is a good question.

 There is a business in Sydney that is re-branding SME (contribs.org aka
 e-smith) and claiming it as there own.

 What (if any) is the best course of action to take against this company?

 A bit more information.

 This company sells pre-installed SMEserver linux boxes and sells
 support.

 I know that is not a crime
 and i know rebranding some FOSS software isnt a crime also
 but the bad part is that they claim they developed the software inhouse.

 They prey on the NOT linux-savvy and their ignorance to the
 technology.

 They also do a very poor job of supporting the product.

 I am not sure of the appropriateness of posting the companies details
 here but I will do so if enough people think it is appropriate.

 Also I have alot more information regarding there services.


 Thanks for your time,
 Jeff Grima

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