Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu gcc version problem

2008-10-28 Thread david



Ian Wienand wrote:

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:38:15PM +1100, david wrote:

When I run vmware-config.pl I get the following warning message:

Your kernel was built with gcc version 4.2.3, while you are trying to use
/usr/bin/gcc version 4.2.4.

What version am I running? Should I care? vmware-config.pl gives dire 
warnings about impending crashes, although I've found two posts on the 
net suggesting that I can bypass the warning.


It's warning you because different versions of gcc *might* do things
like layout structures differently, meaning the newly built modules
*might* get a wrong offset and end-up poking around where they're not
supposed to (i.e. ABI compatability).

The results could be from nothing at all to all hell breaking loose.
However, for a minor version bump like this it is very unlikely
anything like that changed in gcc, so you should be fine.




You turned out to be right. So far nothing has gone wrong. If things go down 
hill I'll post again :-)


I'm naive enough to think that computing should be an exact science.


If you want to be really sure, re-compile your kernel with the gcc on
your system now.

-i

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[SLUG] System crash resulting in fsck at startup - assistance requested.

2008-10-28 Thread elliott-brennan
Hi all

I use Dapper at the present.

On the weekend I was copying images from my DSLR
(common event) to my machine using Digikam.

I was running a few other things and suddenly the
whole system froze. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace didn't
work. Nor did Alt-Shift-sysrq-S-U-B.

So I held in the power button and turned off the
machine. A restart was fine indicated some
checking going on (I can't recall unfortunately
what the message was but kept a copy of the
'messages' file).

Then just a short while ago, I was deleting a file
and I got a message along the lines of not being
able to access /home/patrick/.kde/config/name of
file. Then I couldn't download an e-mail, with a
message along the lines of having a full HDD (I've
got  10s of Gigs left as can be seen at bottom).

I could not work out what to do, so I tried to
restart X - this only shut me out of using either
Desktop (Gnome or the usual KDE).

So I selected to shut down the machine. Then
waited a for a minute and restarted. I then got a
message saying:

/dev/hda2 clean
/dev/hda3 contains a file system with errors,
check forced.

I allowed this to run to it's conclusion. Along
the way I got a message saying:

Deleted inode 3342344 has zerod dtime. Fixed.

Then everything seemed to go well with the rest of
the drive being checked.

I'm pretty much at a loss (google wasn't too much
help - could be me)

Could someone please provide me with some
information about what this may mean?

The drive is only about 14 months old and the
motherboard about a year older.

Many thanks in advance for any assistance provided.

Regards,

Patrick

***
df -h
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2  20G  8.2G   11G  45% /
varrun689M  152K  689M   1% /var/run
varlock   689M  4.0K  689M   1% /var/lock
udev  689M  128K  689M   1% /dev
devshm689M 0  689M   0% /dev/shm
lrm   689M   19M  671M   3%
/lib/modules/2.6.15-52-386/volatile
/dev/hda3 438G  304G  113G  74% /home
/dev/hdb1 147G   88G   52G  64% /video



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Re: [SLUG] System crash resulting in fsck at startup - assistance requested.

2008-10-28 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 01:27:45AM +1100, elliott-brennan wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I use Dapper at the present.

[snip]

 Could someone please provide me with some
 information about what this may mean?

I would try using smartctl something like 

smartctl -t long -d sat /dev/sda -T permissive
smartctl -d sat /dev/sda --all -T permissive

(just saw this oer in debian-user)

 
 The drive is only about 14 months old and the
 motherboard about a year older.
 
 Many thanks in advance for any assistance provided.
 
 Regards,
 
 Patrick
 
 ***
 df -h
 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda2  20G  8.2G   11G  45% /
 varrun689M  152K  689M   1% /var/run
 varlock   689M  4.0K  689M   1% /var/lock
 udev  689M  128K  689M   1% /dev
 devshm689M 0  689M   0% /dev/shm
 lrm   689M   19M  671M   3%
 /lib/modules/2.6.15-52-386/volatile
 /dev/hda3 438G  304G  113G  74% /home
 /dev/hdb1 147G   88G   52G  64% /video
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] System crash resulting in fsck at startup - assistance requested.

2008-10-28 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi,

I would suspect something at application-level data file corruption.
Try moving .kde aside.
Also what does the X server log and .xsession-errors files say when
you try to login?

About hardaware level errors - do you see anything suspicious in
dmesg's output? If it's hardware or OS error triggered during a login
attempt then you should see something in dmesg.

Cheers,
--Amos

(apologies for top-posting, it's a mail client limitation)

On 10/29/08, elliott-brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 I use Dapper at the present.

 On the weekend I was copying images from my DSLR
 (common event) to my machine using Digikam.

 I was running a few other things and suddenly the
 whole system froze. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace didn't
 work. Nor did Alt-Shift-sysrq-S-U-B.

 So I held in the power button and turned off the
 machine. A restart was fine indicated some
 checking going on (I can't recall unfortunately
 what the message was but kept a copy of the
 'messages' file).

 Then just a short while ago, I was deleting a file
 and I got a message along the lines of not being
 able to access /home/patrick/.kde/config/name of
 file. Then I couldn't download an e-mail, with a
 message along the lines of having a full HDD (I've
 got  10s of Gigs left as can be seen at bottom).

 I could not work out what to do, so I tried to
 restart X - this only shut me out of using either
 Desktop (Gnome or the usual KDE).

 So I selected to shut down the machine. Then
 waited a for a minute and restarted. I then got a
 message saying:

 /dev/hda2 clean
 /dev/hda3 contains a file system with errors,
 check forced.

 I allowed this to run to it's conclusion. Along
 the way I got a message saying:

 Deleted inode 3342344 has zerod dtime. Fixed.

 Then everything seemed to go well with the rest of
 the drive being checked.

 I'm pretty much at a loss (google wasn't too much
 help - could be me)

 Could someone please provide me with some
 information about what this may mean?

 The drive is only about 14 months old and the
 motherboard about a year older.

 Many thanks in advance for any assistance provided.

 Regards,

 Patrick

 ***
 df -h
 FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda2  20G  8.2G   11G  45% /
 varrun689M  152K  689M   1% /var/run
 varlock   689M  4.0K  689M   1% /var/lock
 udev  689M  128K  689M   1% /dev
 devshm689M 0  689M   0% /dev/shm
 lrm   689M   19M  671M   3%
 /lib/modules/2.6.15-52-386/volatile
 /dev/hda3 438G  304G  113G  74% /home
 /dev/hdb1 147G   88G   52G  64% /video



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Re: [SLUG] System crash resulting in fsck at startup - assistance requested.

2008-10-28 Thread Peter Chubb
 elliott-brennan == elliott-brennan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

elliott-brennan Hi all I use Dapper at the present.

elliott-brennan On the weekend I was copying images from my DSLR
elliott-brennan (common event) to my machine using Digikam.

elliott-brennan I was running a few other things and suddenly the
elliott-brennan whole system froze. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace didn't
elliott-brennan work. Nor did Alt-Shift-sysrq-S-U-B.

Dunno what caused this.  Can you remember if the disk light was on?
I'll bet it was on solid; with very heavy I/O under some
circumstances, Linux can appear to freeze for a while.  If whatever is
causing the heavy I/O is still present, the freeze can go on for minutes.

elliott-brennan So I held in the power button and turned off the
elliott-brennan machine. A restart was fine indicated some checking
elliott-brennan going on (I can't recall unfortunately what the
elliott-brennan message was but kept a copy of the 'messages' file).

So there were filesystem updates in-progress, and the on-disc data got
corrupted.

elliott-brennan Then just a short while ago, I was deleting a file
elliott-brennan and I got a message along the lines of not being able
elliott-brennan to access /home/patrick/.kde/config/name of file
elliott-brennan . Then I couldn't download an e-mail, with a
elliott-brennan message along the lines of having a full HDD (I've
elliott-brennan got 10s of Gigs left as can be seen at bottom).

That's because some silly apps can't distinguish between ENOSPACE and EROFS

At this point, you reboot into single user and run fsck.  You'l;l
prebably see a message something like, `filesystem corruption
detected, remounting read-only'


elliott-brennan /dev/hda2 clean /dev/hda3 contains a file system with
elliott-brennan errors, check forced.

That's right.


elliott-brennan Deleted inode 3342344 has zerod dtime. Fixed.

That's fine, it just means that a file was being deleted, and the
directory entry was updated OK, but the inode entry was not.


elliott-brennan Could someone please provide me with some information
elliott-brennan about what this may mean?


The big question is, exactly why did the system hang?  And will it do
it again?

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[SLUG] Calendar Server?

2008-10-28 Thread Nigel Allen

Greetings

We are currently evaluating Calendar Servers for a backend to the 
Lightning plugin for Thunderbird.


Shortlisted so far are the Sun Java Calendar Server, Apple's Calendar 
Server, Bedework and DAViCal.


Anyone have any illumination, rumination or cogitation that might assist us?

Anyone got any been there - done that - it was easy stories to relate?

TIA

Nigel.

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Re: [SLUG] Calendar Server?

2008-10-28 Thread David Kempe

davical works ok, but the interface sucks to use.
zimbra is what we are using now for a caldav backend for lightning. 
lightning barfs when you have like over 10 caldav calendars. the backend 
for lightning could do with some work.


dave

Nigel Allen wrote:

Greetings

We are currently evaluating Calendar Servers for a backend to the 
Lightning plugin for Thunderbird.


Shortlisted so far are the Sun Java Calendar Server, Apple's Calendar 
Server, Bedework and DAViCal.


Anyone have any illumination, rumination or cogitation that might 
assist us?


Anyone got any been there - done that - it was easy stories to relate?

TIA

Nigel.


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Re: [SLUG] Calendar Server?

2008-10-28 Thread James Dumay
TBH, I've never been able to get Zimbra to work correctly for me - it
suffers from timezoning and caldav compatibility issues (Evolution
won't work against the version I am using, at least).

James

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:04 AM, David Kempe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 davical works ok, but the interface sucks to use.
 zimbra is what we are using now for a caldav backend for lightning.
 lightning barfs when you have like over 10 caldav calendars. the backend for
 lightning could do with some work.

 dave

 Nigel Allen wrote:

 Greetings

 We are currently evaluating Calendar Servers for a backend to the
 Lightning plugin for Thunderbird.

 Shortlisted so far are the Sun Java Calendar Server, Apple's Calendar
 Server, Bedework and DAViCal.

 Anyone have any illumination, rumination or cogitation that might assist
 us?

 Anyone got any been there - done that - it was easy stories to relate?

 TIA

 Nigel.

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Re: [SLUG] Calendar Server?

2008-10-28 Thread Phil Scarratt
James Dumay wrote:
 TBH, I've never been able to get Zimbra to work correctly for me - it
 suffers from timezoning and caldav compatibility issues (Evolution
 won't work against the version I am using, at least).

What sort of problems? I'm having some problems responding to meeting
requests - the response goes back with a different time than what the
request arrived with.

Fil
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