Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Rob B
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From: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:21 AM
Subject: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?


 Hi all,

 I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what ppl have used
and can recommend and what not maybe to use.
 Previously I just had put the install scripts put one on for me but now I
can see I have quite a few choices.
 Use is mainly for home machine--machine but will be using at at uni
where it will be effectively directly connected
 so security is a concern. (my IRIX box here shows several attemps / week)
 But also I wont be using virtual hosts or anything fancy (hence dont need
proftp). So simpliclity is a plus.
 Users will be mainly me at uni.
 Anyone used oftpd, vsftpd or twoftpd.

On my Debian box I use vsftpd, couldn't be happier with it.  Real
lightweight, good throughput, and no known buffer overflows or anything :)
Can't be too bad - ftp.redhat.com runs on it, as does ftp.openbsd.org

On my FreeBSD boxes I use lukemftpd, so far, there isn't much of a
difference, lukemftpd can do a couple things that vsftpd can't - like chroot
and kerberos/S-key  authentication

cheers,
Rob


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RE: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Fox
 
 Hi all,
 
 I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what 
 ppl have used and can recommend and what not maybe to use.

apt-get install proftpd
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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Rob B
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From: Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Michael Lake' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?


 
  Hi all,
 
  I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what
  ppl have used and can recommend and what not maybe to use.

 apt-get install proftpd

You didn't really read the email, did you?

But also I wont be using virtual hosts or anything fancy (hence dont need
proftp). So simpliclity is a plus

Rob

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RE: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Fox
  
   Hi all,
  
   I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what
   ppl have used and can recommend and what not maybe to use.
 
  apt-get install proftpd

 You didn't really read the email, did you?

Yes, somewhat. But probably not entirely. However... since when wasn't
proftpd easy. All you do is install it, make some changes and leave it.


 But also I wont be using virtual hosts or anything fancy
 (hence dont need
 proftp). So simpliclity is a plus

Just because proftpd can do this fancy stuff, doesn't mean its not easy. I
don't use those functions and never have. However I use it, because out of
the box its ready to roll, and not to mention very secure. End case!


 Rob


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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Rob B
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From: Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Rob B' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what
ppl have used and can recommend and what not maybe to use.
  
   apt-get install proftpd
 
  But also I wont be using virtual hosts or anything fancy
  (hence dont need
  proftp). So simpliclity is a plus

 Just because proftpd can do this fancy stuff, doesn't mean its not easy. I
 don't use those functions and never have. However I use it, because out of
 the box its ready to roll, and not to mention very secure. End case!

I'd have to disagree on both points there - it might be ready to roll, but
it has been the victim of some very serious security flaws in the past.  I
think that, when compared to lukemftpd or vsftpd, proftpd is overkill.

Rob

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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Lake
Michael Fox wrote:
I need to add an ftpd to my Debian laptop and wwondered what
ppl have used and can recommend and what not maybe to use.
   apt-get install proftpd
 
  You didn't really read the email, did you?
 
 Yes, somewhat. But probably not entirely. However... since when wasn't
 proftpd easy. All you do is install it, make some changes and leave it.
 
  But also I wont be using virtual hosts or anything fancy
  (hence dont need
  proftp). So simpliclity is a plus
 
 Just because proftpd can do this fancy stuff, doesn't mean its not easy. I
 don't use those functions and never have. However I use it, because out of
 the box its ready to roll, and not to mention very secure. End case!

Thanks Michael for the proftpd suggestion. The description of it from
apt-cache show seemed like it was very powerful and provided features I
wont be using so I assumed the config files might be more complex too
which may not be the case. So its in the basket to consider now.

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Fox
Quoting Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks Michael for the proftpd suggestion. The description of it from
 apt-cache show seemed like it was very powerful and provided features
 I
 wont be using so I assumed the config files might be more complex too
 which may not be the case. So its in the basket to consider now.

Someone mentioned it had security issues previously, and just like any product 
that is released they all have a past. However the security issue I remember it 
having, was found and fixed within days.

As other have also suggested we have a wide choice of other suitable ftpd's, 
personally I've found proftpd to be simple, and yet if you must vi the 
proftpd.conf, its not that difficult to understand.

However I believe recently, debconf can be used to manage/maintain the 
proftpd.conf and you get a prompt at install time if you want to do this.

I think I might take a look at someones suggestion just recently of vsftpd was 
it. Sounds interesting.

Cheers


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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread David Fitch
Hi Michael,

I'm another vote for proftpd.  Been using it for yonks,
permanently connected to the the net, it gets many probes/
connections per day (none legitimate) and has stood up
to it all so far (with the apt-get updates of course).
(although the vsftp (or whatever it was) sounds interesting too)

Dave.
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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Fox
Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Michael,
 
 I'm another vote for proftpd.  Been using it for yonks,
 permanently connected to the the net, it gets many probes/
 connections per day (none legitimate) and has stood up
 to it all so far (with the apt-get updates of course).
 (although the vsftp (or whatever it was) sounds interesting too)

David,

Sounds exactly like my usage of proftpd for the past 3 years... its just sat 
on boxes with permanent links and the box has never been exploited.

I've since introduced someone at work here to Debian, and he has been quite 
pleased with it. Infact rather impressed at times *winks*

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Re: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Lake
Hi all,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have installed vsftpd and will see how it 
goes. The config file is easy to follow which is nice.
I'll test it out at home. Thanks all.


Mike




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