[sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821

2009-09-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dito here - already reported it as a False Positive:

 

s u='20090908183815' m='D:\IMail\spool\proc\work\Dd948c4c42c68.smd'
s='54' r='2654821'

m s='54' r='2654821' i='1905' e='1952' f='m'/

p s='0' t='15' l='4270' d='38'/

g o='0' i='64.78.17.17' t='u' c='0.071429' p='0'
r='Normal'/

/s

 

 

From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On Behalf
Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:49 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821

 

Neglected to mention it is a Sniffer-Porn rule.


Darin.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Darin Cox mailto:dc...@4cweb.com  

To: Message mailto:sniffer@sortmonster.com  Sniffer Community 

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:47 PM

Subject: [sniffer] RulePanic on 2654821

 

We had to put a RulePanic on 2654821.  We were getting a ton of FPs on it.

 

Pete, let us know what's going on with this rule, please.


Darin.

 

 



[sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821

2009-09-08 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
The scores over here for the messages that trigger on rule 2654821
today:
 
spam that hit the rule: 4
... and were porn: 0
ham that was held by my weight system: 5
ham that was allowed by my weight system: 3
subsequent panic log lines: 139
 
Thanks for the heads up, Darin.
 
I was able to re-queue those 5 good messages without the users ever
having to call the Helpdesk.
 
 
Andrew 8)
 



From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On
Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821


Neglected to mention it is a Sniffer-Porn rule.

Darin.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox mailto:dc...@4cweb.com  
To: Message Sniffer Community mailto:sniffer@sortmonster.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:47 PM
Subject: [sniffer] RulePanic on 2654821

We had to put a RulePanic on 2654821.  We were getting a ton of FPs on
it.
 
Pete, let us know what's going on with this rule, please.

Darin.
 
 


[sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821

2009-09-08 Thread Darin Cox
We had a lot... 534 hits between 3:26 and 4:41pm ET, which is when we added the 
rule panic.  It appears the rule was added in a rulebase that was automatically 
updated at 3:26pm ET.

Pete?  Status?

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Colbeck, Andrew 
To: Message Sniffer Community 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821


The scores over here for the messages that trigger on rule 2654821 today:

spam that hit the rule: 4
... and were porn: 0
ham that was held by my weight system: 5
ham that was allowed by my weight system: 3
subsequent panic log lines: 139

Thanks for the heads up, Darin.

I was able to re-queue those 5 good messages without the users ever having to 
call the Helpdesk.


Andrew 8)





From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:snif...@sortmonster.com] On Behalf Of 
Darin Cox
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821


Neglected to mention it is a Sniffer-Porn rule.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox 
To: Message Sniffer Community 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:47 PM
Subject: [sniffer] RulePanic on 2654821


We had to put a RulePanic on 2654821.  We were getting a ton of FPs on it.

Pete, let us know what's going on with this rule, please.

Darin.



[sniffer] Re: RulePanic on 2654821

2009-09-08 Thread Pete McNeil

Darin Cox wrote:
We had a lot... 534 hits between 3:26 and 4:41pm ET, which is when we 
added the rule panic.  It appears the rule was added in a rulebase 
that was automatically updated at 3:26pm ET.
 
Pete?  Status?

Here is a preliminary report on the bad rule:

The rule was coded in error -- the highlighted section flipped just as 
the content was copied into the rule generator. As a result unintended 
content was coded. The intended content was a link of similar size and 
structure so it was not immediately obvious that an error had occurred.


Storm conditions were high so the error was not noticed immediately by 
Adam -- recently coded rules quickly scrolled off screen and out of sight.


A rulebase update when out and the error was caught. The rule was 
removed immediately upon detection (actually -- no rules are ever 
removed. The bad rule remains in place to prevent it ever being coded 
again).


The rule appears to have been in place for one or two updates depending 
upon variable update rates and timing.


I note that several of the FP reports actually came in after the rule 
had already been removed. There is also evidence that the rule was 
autopanic'd on many systems rendering it inert.


---

We are reviewing procedures to minimize this possibility and to improve 
upon detection times.


Circumstances were unusual for this event as we were two people down 
during a (approximate) 45 minute window at the moment this error 
occurred and we were also under heavy storm conditions. This combination 
is very rare, but was unavoidable today.


Under normal circumstances It is very likely we would have caught the 
error before it went out if the error had occurred at all. Normally 
rules are under nearly continuous review be at least one additional pair 
of eyes. (Minimum two brains).


We are very sorry about the trouble.

Best,

_M


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