[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

2007-03-19 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

ErrorLevel is a variable as of Windows 2000 so:

call C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe -silent -auto -ai -archive 
-saferemove -disinf -del -append -report=C:\SmarterMail\logs\virusscan.log %1
Set ERR=%ErrorLevel%
IF %ERR% EQU 0 GOTO CLEAN
@REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found %1
MOVE /Y %1 C:\SmarterMail\Viruses
GOTO END
:CLEAN
@REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found  %1
:END

Would work as well, just not on NT4 or lower.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC 
  To: Message Sniffer Community 
  Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:36 AM
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys


  I really don't see why it wouldn't be possible to do.  Here is the script 
that's used for f-prot:

  -
  SET ERR=0
  call C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe -silent -auto -ai -archive 
-saferemove -disinf -del -append -report=C:\SmarterMail\logs\virusscan.log %1
  IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO CLEAN
  IF ERRORLEVEL 1 SET ERR=1
  IF ERRORLEVEL 2 SET ERR=2
  IF ERRORLEVEL 3 SET ERR=3
  IF ERRORLEVEL 4 SET ERR=4
  IF ERRORLEVEL 5 SET ERR=5
  IF ERRORLEVEL 6 SET ERR=6
  @REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found %1
  MOVE /Y %1 C:\SmarterMail\Viruses
  GOTO END
  :CLEAN
  @REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found  %1
  :END
  -

  I think you should be able to modify it so that it calls Sniffer, rather than 
FProt.  %1 is the path to the mail file.  Based upon the error code/return 
code, you could then delete/hold spam detected by Sniffer accordingly. 

  As for SM not having a GUI, it really hasn't be an issue for us...

  -Jay

  -Original Message-
  From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris 
Bunting
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:03 PM
  To: Message Sniffer Community
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

  The other issue with SmarterMail is it doesn't have any gui.  Which I guess 
isn't a bad thing.  But I sometimes like a gui for certain things.  Also 
Declude seemed very expensive to use with sniffer

  Sent via my BlackBerry
  - Ask me about it!  

  -Original Message-
  From: E. H. \(Eric\) Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:42:43 
  To:Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

  Phil / Jay:

  I am also looking at SmarterMail as an addition to or replacement for 
  several IMail servers and looking at calling MessageSniffer from it without 
  Declude because of the Declude bundling of things we don't want or see value 
  in.  While doing a little more reading on the SmarterTools site I saw a link 
  that addresses your discussion on domain keys:

  http://smartermail.exhalus.net/domainkeys/


  Eric

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:43 PM
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


  Hi Phil -

  Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
  However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
  message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
  file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
  server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
  of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
  having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
  this.

  As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
  SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
  said domains zone files.

  -Jay

  -Original Message-
  From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
  Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
  To: Message Sniffer Community
  Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


  Jay,

  Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail
  and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer
  or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has
  support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also
  does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending
  mail to yahoo.com etc...

  Thanks,

  Phil


  At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
  Stay Away From MailEnable.
  
  There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
  exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
  MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
  week because it kept on not actually fixing the root

[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-17 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Hi Phil -

Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.

As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail 
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer 
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has 
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also 
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending 
mail to yahoo.com etc...

Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if
you
stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more
so
than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get
truncated
to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your
time
and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-17 Thread Matt
There is in fact a Domain Keys plug-in for SmarterMail listed on their 
downloads page:


   http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/DL/v4.aspx

Personally I'm not a fan of any present sender identification 
implementation.  Both SPF and Domain Keys are primarily associated with 
spam by volume, and SPF can at cause one's customers issues when they do 
things like use alternative SMTP servers or find themselves behind an 
SMTP proxy at a hotel or T-Mobile HotSpot...but I digress.


I think that both IMail and SmarterMail are decent products, but neither 
one of them is perfect.  SmarterMail certainly has a lower cost of 
entry.  I would trust Jay's experience with MailEnable considering his 
extensive experience.


Matt



Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote:

Hi Phil -

Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.

As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail 
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer 
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has 
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also 
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending 
mail to yahoo.com etc...


Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
  

Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if


you
  

stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more


so
  

than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get


truncated
  

to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your


time
  

and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-17 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Re: domain keys: I was looking at that in some older forum posts, and
from what I could tell it only did inbound authentication, not outbound
signing.  But apparently it does DK both ways now.  Sorry!  

 

I like SmarterMail, but as Matt says it's not perfect.  Their support is
definitely lacking, even though it's totally paid now, and they have a
very rapid development cycle (which is not a bad thing), but they really
like to stick it to folks who bought an old version just prior to the
release of a new version by making them pay full upgrade price.  Not
very customer friendly.  The CEO seems to be totally missing that point
and interacts with customers in public forums using a very arrogant
tone. OTOH, they allow service providers to hand out free 50 domain /
250 user licenses to any of their customers, in the hops that the
customer will need to upgrade to a larger edition.  This is good for the
service provider and very good for folks who fit into the free license
size.

 

And yes, ME really is a dog -  poor performance, poor code, poor overall
implementation

 

-Jay

 



From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:06 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

 

There is in fact a Domain Keys plug-in for SmarterMail listed on their
downloads page:

http://www.smartertools.com/Products/SmarterMail/DL/v4.aspx

Personally I'm not a fan of any present sender identification
implementation.  Both SPF and Domain Keys are primarily associated with
spam by volume, and SPF can at cause one's customers issues when they do
things like use alternative SMTP servers or find themselves behind an
SMTP proxy at a hotel or T-Mobile HotSpot...but I digress.

I think that both IMail and SmarterMail are decent products, but neither
one of them is perfect.  SmarterMail certainly has a lower cost of
entry.  I would trust Jay's experience with MailEnable considering his
extensive experience.

Matt



Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC wrote: 

Hi Phil -
 
Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.
 
As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.
 
-Jay
 
-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable
 
 
Jay,
 
Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail 
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer 
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has 
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also 
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending 
mail to yahoo.com etc...
 
Thanks,
 
Phil
 
 
At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
  

Stay Away From MailEnable.
 
There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there
are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular
interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the
*same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the
issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited,
even if


you
  

stay on the of the patches.
 
On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much
more


so
  

than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they
use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get


truncated
  

to zero during periods of high activity on the server.
 
In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+
mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste
your


time
  

and money with MailEnable.
 
-Jay
 
-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable
 
 
We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking
at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program

[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

2007-03-17 Thread E. H. (Eric) Fletcher

Phil / Jay:

I am also looking at SmarterMail as an addition to or replacement for 
several IMail servers and looking at calling MessageSniffer from it without 
Declude because of the Declude bundling of things we don't want or see value 
in.  While doing a little more reading on the SmarterTools site I saw a link 
that addresses your discussion on domain keys:


http://smartermail.exhalus.net/domainkeys/


Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Hi Phil -

Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.

As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending
mail to yahoo.com etc...

Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:

Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if

you

stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more

so

than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get

truncated

to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your

time

and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

2007-03-17 Thread Chris Bunting
The other issue with SmarterMail is it doesn't have any gui.  Which I guess 
isn't a bad thing.  But I sometimes like a gui for certain things.  Also 
Declude seemed very expensive to use with sniffer

Sent via my BlackBerry
- Ask me about it!  

-Original Message-
From: E. H. \(Eric\) Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:42:43 
To:Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

Phil / Jay:

I am also looking at SmarterMail as an addition to or replacement for 
several IMail servers and looking at calling MessageSniffer from it without 
Declude because of the Declude bundling of things we don't want or see value 
in.  While doing a little more reading on the SmarterTools site I saw a link 
that addresses your discussion on domain keys:

http://smartermail.exhalus.net/domainkeys/


Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Hi Phil -

Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.

As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending
mail to yahoo.com etc...

Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if
you
stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more
so
than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get
truncated
to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your
time
and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

2007-03-17 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
I really don't see why it wouldn't be possible to do.  Here is the script 
that's used for f-prot:

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SET ERR=0
call C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe -silent -auto -ai -archive 
-saferemove -disinf -del -append -report=C:\SmarterMail\logs\virusscan.log %1
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO CLEAN
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 SET ERR=1
IF ERRORLEVEL 2 SET ERR=2
IF ERRORLEVEL 3 SET ERR=3
IF ERRORLEVEL 4 SET ERR=4
IF ERRORLEVEL 5 SET ERR=5
IF ERRORLEVEL 6 SET ERR=6
@REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found %1
MOVE /Y %1 C:\SmarterMail\Viruses
GOTO END
:CLEAN
@REM echo Virus scanned by F-Prot (%ERR%) viruses found  %1
:END
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I think you should be able to modify it so that it calls Sniffer, rather than 
FProt.  %1 is the path to the mail file.  Based upon the error code/return 
code, you could then delete/hold spam detected by Sniffer accordingly. 

As for SM not having a GUI, it really hasn't be an issue for us...

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris 
Bunting
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:03 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

The other issue with SmarterMail is it doesn't have any gui.  Which I guess 
isn't a bad thing.  But I sometimes like a gui for certain things.  Also 
Declude seemed very expensive to use with sniffer

Sent via my BlackBerry
- Ask me about it!  

-Original Message-
From: E. H. \(Eric\) Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:42:43 
To:Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable - Domain Keys

Phil / Jay:

I am also looking at SmarterMail as an addition to or replacement for 
several IMail servers and looking at calling MessageSniffer from it without 
Declude because of the Declude bundling of things we don't want or see value 
in.  While doing a little more reading on the SmarterTools site I saw a link 
that addresses your discussion on domain keys:

http://smartermail.exhalus.net/domainkeys/


Eric

- Original Message - 
From: Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Hi Phil -

Good question.  We integrate Sniffer into SmarterMail via Declude.
However, SmarterMail does have the capability to run a program against a
message before it is delivered.  We have some customers that use a batch
file to call f-prot and get virus scanning integrated into their mail
server on the cheap.  I believe it would likely be possible to make use
of the same functionality to call Sniffer directly, and thus avoid
having to purchase Declude.  I have just never had a need to attempt
this.

As for domain keys, I don't believe so.  However, you can setup
SPFyou're your domains simply by adding the appropriate DNS records to
said domains zone files.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:01 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable


Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending
mail to yahoo.com etc...

Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if
you
stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more
so
than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get
truncated
to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your
time
and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil

[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-16 Thread Phillip Cohen

Jay,

Thanks for the heads up on Mailenable. I took a look at SmarterMail 
and it looks pretty good. How does it interface with Message Sniffer 
or does it require and external gateway such as EWall? How has 
support been with it and how have they been as far as updates. Also 
does it have domain keys capability and SPF support for sending 
mail to yahoo.com etc...


Thanks,

Phil


At 07:26 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:

Stay Away From MailEnable.

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if you
stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more so
than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get truncated
to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your time
and money with MailEnable.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-15 Thread David Moore
I to would like to pursue this option I have in the past purchased Mail
Enable Enterprise 2 but could no handle the amount of spam it let in and
reverted back to Imail 8.22 and unwilling to upgrade to 2006.2.

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Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 5:22 AM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable

We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at 
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is 
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with 
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

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[sniffer] Re: Integration with Mailenable

2007-03-15 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Stay Away From MailEnable.  

There are so many exploits out there for MailEnable, and there are more
exploits found monthly, if not weekly.  At one particular interval,
MailEnable had to re-release the same patch several times in the *same*
week because it kept on not actually fixing the root of the issue.  If
you run MailEnable, odds are that you will end up exploited, even if you
stay on the of the patches.

On top of that, MailEnable is just simply a CPU and IO hog, much more so
than other other mail server I have ever seen.  By default, they use
entirely text based configuration files, which on occasion get truncated
to zero during periods of high activity on the server.

In the past year, we have assisted our customers move 20,000+ mailboxes
away from MailEnable, mostly all to SmarterMail.  Do not waste your time
and money with MailEnable.  

-Jay

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From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Phillip Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:22 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Integration with Mailenable


We are finally going to replace our old Vopmail server. Looking at 
Mailenable Enterprise. Will Sortmonster work with that program? Is 
anyone using Mailenable? If so how is it and if it works with 
Sortmonster how did you use them together.

THanks,

Phil


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