[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
lf Of Computer House SupportSent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:09 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Dear Pete, Sniffer blocked 35,000 messages today, and roughly 7200 of them were blocked by the 1174356 rule.

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-17 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Computer, Monday, October 16, 2006, 11:09:03 PM, you wrote: Dear Pete, Sniffer blocked 35,000 messages today, and roughly 7200 of them were blocked by the1174356rule. Do you think many of these were false positives? Do you know a way of searching through 35,000 Imail messages

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-17 Thread Darin Cox
Sniffer Community Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hello Computer, Monday, October 16, 2006, 11:09:03 PM, you wrote: Dear Pete, Sniffer blocked 35,000 messages today, and roughly

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-17 Thread Greg Evanitsky
On Oct 16, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Darin Cox wrote: Anyone else seeing a sudden increase in FPs? We normally report a few each day, but we're seeing a 10x increase in FPs for the past three days. What particular group, if any, are you seeing them in? The experimental-abstract (61) category

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Herb Guenther
Hi Darin; Not seeing a lot of false pos messages, but there are lots of spam messages sneaking through our system because declude is not modifying the header correctly. It is adding a header stub to the bottom of the message so that users mail client filters which look for the modified

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
We see this occasionallywith Declude 1.82. What version are you running? Darin. - Original Message - From: Herb Guenther To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hi Darin;Not seeing a lot

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Herb Guenther
- From: Herb Guenther To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hi Darin; Not seeing a lot of false pos messages, but there are lots of spam messages sneaking through our system

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Grosshandler
GuentherSent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:35 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hi Darin;Not seeing a lot of false pos messages, but there are lots of spam messages sneaking through our system because declude is not modifying the header correctly

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
. - Original Message - From: Herb Guenther To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hi Darin;Not seeing a lot of false pos messages, but there are lots of spam messages

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
- From: Robert Grosshandler To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives That's been a problem for a long time, but for us, it still treats that e-mail as spam, with the appropriate weight. 100% of the time

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Matrosity Hosting
: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives For us, it doesn't calculate the proper weight when this happens, and only acts on the weight seen in the topmost headers. One of these years I'll finally exercise the right to use our 4.x license, I just don't have time for new problems

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Robert Grosshandler
, 2006 5:12 PMTo: Message Sniffer CommunitySubject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Ahh... good. The first thing they'll probably tell you is to update to the latest 4.x version, see if the problem persists, then re-report it. Darin. - Original Message - From: Herb

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Herb Guenther
06 4:35 PM To: Message Sniffer Community Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hi Darin; Not seeing a lot of false pos messages, but there are lots of spam messages sneaking through our system because declude is not modifying the header correctly. It is adding a h

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin, Monday, October 16, 2006, 5:17:26 PM, you wrote: Anyone else seeing a sudden increase in FPs? We normally report a few each day, but we're seeing a 10x increase in FPs for the past three days. Not sure if this is it, but there was an image segment rule that went in

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hello Darin, Monday, October 16, 2006, 5:17:26 PM, you wrote: Anyone else seeing a sudden increase in FPs? We normally report a few each

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Matt
Pete, Would you please clarify this a bit. Declude of course doesn't record the rule in the headers, so this is difficult to figure out. Knowing the pattern may help identify the problematic messages. Also knowing the start time and end time of the rule would also help. I would be nice too

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt, Monday, October 16, 2006, 10:03:04 PM, you wrote: Pete, Would you please clarify this a bit. Declude of course doesn't record the rule in the headers, so this is difficult to figure out. Knowing the pattern may help identify the problematic messages. Also knowing the start

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
Message - From: Matt To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Pete,Would you please clarify this a bit. Declude of course doesn't record the rule in the headers, so this is difficult to figure out

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Darin Cox
to enable and use the info it would be greatly appreciated. Darin. - Original Message - From: Pete McNeil To: Message Sniffer Community Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: [sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives Hello Matt, Monday, October 16, 2006, 10:03:04 PM

[sniffer] Re: Significant increase in false positives

2006-10-16 Thread Matt
There is no doubt that having Declude handle xhdr files would be optimal. I might add that an option to exclude the header on non-hits would also be wise. David Barker appears open to some feature requests of late, and I would think that you could make this happen. Not everyone has capacity