I like Barry's thinking. The majority of line breaks I have seen have been
the equipments fault.Even in stiff wind #290 is very hard to break.
It is not that difficult to watch a launch and determine if it is excessive
line tension that breaks the line. Usually much after 60 degrees. Afte
Sound like StarWars started early out there and a phase pulse with
resulting EMF wave fried the sensitive components.
The Dark Side...
At 11:02 PM 5/16/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Ava
encountered the power lines to the west side of our field on Sunday,
resulting in an explosion, balls of f
My Ava encountered the power lines to the west side of our field on Sunday,
resulting in an explosion, balls of fire travelling down the line for at least
two power poles, and complete disintegration of the Ava. Tony Bermudez
informed me tonight that two other pilots (Tony and Bill Knesek) e
On Monday 16 May 2005 07:37 pm, you wrote:
> I have gathered the data and present the followingFor what it's worth.
>
> Most contest start at 9:00 am (AT BEST) in an effort to increase readiness
> and decrease line breaks Contestants should be allowed to register and
> have a 3 min. MAX test
Looking for a pair of Greening mounts for a friend for JR 368
Craig must be away, haven't heard back for quite sometime.
Anyone have a pair they can part with??
Barry
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Jeff brings up a good point about the line from MNT. Our experience is the
same. Especially the last batch we got. It was pieced together and some of
the line was terrible. The first contest we used it was awful, but after the
breaks from the reload were done, the line lasts great. In the last
I like this idea a lot. It wont knock you out of the contest for more
then one line break, but it will cost you something if it keeps
happening.
In addition, I like to reserve the weakest winches for the alternate re
launches and usually don't bother using a battery charger on the back ups
either
We have some very wise CD's in the OVSS, and I am not worried about this
issue a bit. Which ever way we go, it is the same for everyone. Let's try
to maximize the fun next weekend, I am really looking forward to flying
with everybody.
At 07:58 PM 5/16/2005, Barry Andersen wrote:
Hey, the stak
Jeff I agree that limited power winches would be a great thing, but it is
not practical for all club to get new winches. I don't understand why a week
link slows down a contest. In theory the weak link is the part that breaks
and almost all breaks will not be re-launched. When it is not the weak li
Most all the OVSS winches now use the 290# line. It is very hard to
break. When out practicing, or playing, I haven't broken a line in a
couple of years. I have broken lines at contests, including the NATS,
I don't launch any differently there than normally, but the line at a
contest is some
I don't think a weak link works. You want to keep things moving a link
only serves to slow things down.
I think the FAI solution works great. Limit the power on the winches.
The resistored winches cut the power down and then everyone is nearly
identical in power.
Now does this solve line break
I bought a used extreme the other day. I noticed I had the problem with
the wing bolts starting to form that we discussed on the forum the other
day.
, I originally hit them with oil ... but today I thought about it and
decided to use wax instead. In biking the best chain lube is not a spray
I have a couple of students who would be very interested in any NIB Visons that
may be kicking around out there. Unlikey, but who knows. Anyone?
Quoting Bill Swingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Wow, a vision in good shape for 150$.
>
> The vision used to command ~250$. Now they're down to 150$. Wel
Mark,
Why not use a weak link of 225lb at the tow hook with 280-300 line on the
winch? If the line breaks the weak link then they fly. You would need to be
able to check the line quickly. That said. I feel that you are doing a great
job with the series and everyone knows the rules. Everyone launch
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I have gathered the data and present the followingFor what it's worth.
Most contest start at 9:00 am (AT BEST) in an effort to increase readiness
and decrease line breaks Contestants should be allowed to register and have
a 3 min. MAX test flight; recorded on the score card less points. (tim
Oh Gord Mister,
Granted, I do not travel in the exalted circles that you travel,
BUT I Have Seen, and so have a few others concerned with this subject,
watch the Late launcher / re lighter on purpose, walk away with the win
after an opps "LINE Break", ...It Has happened, maybe not
within the OVS
Complete relauch is the fairest, but any relight works. competitive edge hasn't ever proven to have caused a win.
Complete relaunch is the fairest, but in fact a single relaunch has never ever resulted in the relauncher winning a contest.
There's been plenty of chat about its 'possibility'
At 04:47 PM 5/16/2005, pfsiegel wrote:
What about a compromise to allow one line break per day, with the
provision that in the opinion of the launch master that there has not been
an intentional attempt to break the line?
Or???
Here's another compromise that I thought about at one time, but neve
Jim, Paul, Jack,and Jim:
Great comments and you all have pretty much sited all the pros and cons
about what we face at each and every contest. From what i know every one of
the contests we will be flying 280 or 290 line this year that is having MOM
formats, I know STL relined this weekend a
Normally, I kind of keep to the back of the tree line but this is one
of my few hot buttons-launching systems.
FAI has a method, not good for us.
I have proposed for years that we in AMA scheduled TD events use a
winch system with some kind of limit device (sensor) other than the
winch line. It c
Looks interesting.
Use phone number 123-456-7890 to browse their store without registering.
-==- Barrett
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From: Bob Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [RCSE] "I found a new glue
Sorry about your misfortune, but you have a great attitude and I look
forward to flying with you in Cinci.
At 05:04 PM 5/16/2005, Glauco Lago wrote:
Anyway I'll be there
with the Organic so beware of a 2 m and flying as master now ;-)
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Te
That is the way it is traditionally done in the OVSS, but where you are
most likely to see line break action is in the last group with the
strongest pilots, and that round is always filled so there will never be an
empty slot to allow someone in.
Chicago SOAR always restrings its winches with f
Paul - In RMSA we fly all our contests as random MoM - not seeded. The rules
are:
1. If the line break occurs to a novice they are allowed to relite on a free
winch for the same round. While there might be an advantage, novices are not
generally capable of using that advantage successfully.
2. Fo
It has the best features of the glues we
are currently using and I just had an opportunity or misfortune to try it on a
damage molded wing tip.
This stuff let you move stuff around till you are satisfied then lets you
harden it immediately. You can put filler in it too. Stting
Paul,
I too am somewhat dismayed.
Whatever answer that is brought forth, someone will surely feel slighted.
I too do not like the unfair, 2 minutes later relight, for the very
reason that you state.
I also do not like the low launch rule, especially, as you say, and I have
seen, it was not the l
Guys,
My beloved Artemis got to the end of his soaring life this weekend at
a club contest after what appears to be a switch harness failure.
I'll describe what happened and see if someone can help me.
The plane was a V tail Artemis with 6 x 368 JR servos, JR 770 PCM
receiver, 1750 mAh 4 cell Ni
I would like to throw this topic out to the soaring exchange to see if
there is any consensus of opinion on policy concerning winch line
breaks during launch, particularly during man on man competition. What
would be a good standard policy for line breaks that could be
universally adopted for
Wow, a vision in good shape for 150$.
The vision used to command ~250$. Now they're down to 150$. Well, I guess
nothing is forever.
Bill Swingle
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I am going to try and rip that thing from your cold, dying? hands. I'll
bet your hands will be pretty darn alive everytime there is a buck on the
line for the landing.
Sure hope they have that bonus zone for when you really screw up ;^) I
liked that one last time.
See you there.
Mike
At 07
Sent this yesterday and I didn't see it come up..If you get a double I
apologize..Brian
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Subject: Vision Transmitter
Any one looking for a good Vision transmitter?
This has been my everyday flyer...It was sent in for a check up this past
winter...I c
Subject: Jim Bag
Went to MG..Thanks..Brian
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I got a notification that Tower has shipped mine, should be here in the
next day or two.
giddy with excitement..
CJ
At 12:20 PM 5/16/2005, Brian Chan wrote:
At 12:53 PM -0400 5/16/05,
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WoW its smaller
than I remembered. About the size of two Hitec 8 channel RX's...
Easily
Title: Re: [RCSE] GOT my new Frequency Checker
today!
At 12:53 PM -0400 5/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WoW its
smaller than I remembered. About the size of two Hitec 8 channel
RX's...
Easily
fits in a shirt pocket!
Gordy
Gordy,
Then I should be getting my soon... did you get the external
ant
It uses 3 AAA cells.
Gordy
WoW its smaller than I remembered. About the size of two Hitec 8 channel
RX's...
Easily fits in a shirt pocket!
Gordy
Hey that was my cap Gordy..now you owe me a beer! Good
flying.
AJ
>
> I ended it with style, about 15 guys witnessing, I
> brought it in on the zero
> and put the nose in the landing target hat to cap it
> with some panache :-)
>
>
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Why keep it a mystery - what is it,
and who makes it?
Matt
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Subject: [RCSE] "I found a
new glue at Toledo
and you didn't!"
Now I am really intrigued, it will be hard to wait for the next RCSD.
cheers, Graham in Embrun near Ottawa Canada
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Very pricy indeed at $89.00 per 20 grams of glue in a kit,
whichincludes the various accelerators, primers, and modifiers in a
handyplastic tool box.50 grams (under 2 oz) of glue by itself for
$45.00.Special purpose glue to be sure. But it certainly sounds
interesting
You guys can go back
Went to MG..Thanks..Brian
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At 08:10 AM 5/16/2005, you wrote:
I was ask: What - Where is our contest.?
It is May 28th and 29th Two one day events with a high overall award for
the weekend. RES and Unlimited classesIt is the 26th year running this
event has been held here..
We have great winches and use retrievers, it
Al, you flew a Quick Silver at Maluhia? Wow, you must have great eyes!
Anything smaller than 60" specs out for me before you get out over the
lift band.
Wishing I was there with you, and I really mean that!
Cheers,
Nathan Woods
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The w
Very pricy indeed at $89.00 per 20 grams of glue in a kit, which
includes the various accelerators, primers, and modifiers in a handy
plastic tool box.
50 grams (under 2 oz) of glue by itself for $45.00.
Special purpose glue to be sure. But it certainly sounds interesting.
JD
Endless Mountain Mod
I was ask: What - Where is our contest.?
It is May 28th and 29th Two one day events with a high overall award for
the weekend. RES and Unlimited classesIt is the 26th year running this
event has been held here..
We have great winches and use retrievers, it will open winch, laid back
but ve
OVSS #2 will be at LOFT in Fort Wayne, Indiana June 11 & 12. We will be
flying both sportsman and expert on saturday. No separate awards for
unlimited on sunday. Location is Salomon Farm (same as last year).
Flier is on the web site.
http://www.loftrc.org/steele/flier.html
If I don't see yo
Cleaning up a little..Found a nice Jim bag..Blue and yellow..Used once "I
think"..Paid $100 "I think" (smile) Been behind my bed for nearly a year..Is
$60 for it fair? I really don't want to ship it, so I can have it in Cincy
this coming Sat or here at our contest May 28 & 29..As usual thanks for
Sounds like this might be PascoFix
http://www.pascofix.de/Pasco_-_Fix/pasco_-_fix.html
Not really new; maybe new at Toldeo however. It has been around for some time.
It seems to be a high grade CYANO glue "system". System in the sense that they
have fillers and primers.
Yes, it does work very
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