Well said Daryl.

I just wanted to add to the hardware part of the sport... There are alot of used winches and Models laying around from FAI pilots that are great buys and are ultra competitive products for F3B especailly to the new to F3b pilot as well as the somewhat seasoned TD pilot .
 I have several near perfect or new in box F3b models for sale prices.
Models:
Calypso Cobra   ( mh-32) $850 new in box
Molded Eagle (rg-15)    $650 n.i.b.
Tragi 700  (rg-15)    $800.  n.i.b.
Tragi 701  ( mh-32)  $850 brand new flown less than 10 times!
Tragi 702 (rg-15A) $850 in perfect condition, and flown in a couple cycles.
Winches:
I also have 2 identical F3B winches with pvc clam shells for sale. One was used by the USA team in Isreal. Those winches are 100% ready to go and have been tested/past for resistance. Winches are $490 each or take both for $900.

Thanks for the air time, Please reply personally. Richard Burnoski
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Harry DeBoer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <soaring@airage.com>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B


go here for an explanation of the tasks -
http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3BTasks.html

There are lots of ways to get involved in F3B. The
best is finding a group of guys in your area that are
interested in learning and flying. It's very much a
team sport. The initial investment can be a bit high
if you try to purchase all the necessary equipment on
your own. 2-3 winches - 2-3 models etc... If you find
some guy to team up with, you all can share in the
winch and line expenses.... once you have a winch...
it'll pretty much last forever... figure 1K for a new
winch. (I typically only have 1 flyable F3B model in
my quiver at any time)

F3B is the "Formula 1" of our sport. The challenges
the tasks provide will make every pilot a better
pilot. It'll give you much better understanding of
thermals, their size, optimizing L/D vs sink rate...
you'll learn about ballast, how it really works, and
how to use it... you might even learn to fly a
straight line... something even some of the best
contest TD pilots struggle with...

You don't need an "f3B" model. You can begin to learn
the tasks with a good strong TD model... just make
sure you have ballast capability. The Pike Inferior to
name one. I saw Darrell Zaballos crank out multiple
17's with his J Icon. (I went 28 laps with my Psyko -
a molded 7035 TD toy - one year at the NATS pounding
everyone in my group)

You don't need elaborate sighting devices. 2 tripods
with a hoop on top will suffice, and a way to measure
150 meters.

You don't need alaborate signalling devices. A walkie
talkie with a beeper will suffice for speed practice.

What I enjoy about F3B is that is contested/flown/and
won in the air... it's not about what happens after
the model hits the ground.

F3B is the ultimate challenge for a RC soaring pilot
and glider. You must be competent at all the
disciplines - from reading air, to flying fast, to
slowing the model down and thermalling...

Give it a shot - you'll be glad ya did...

D


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