[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I would claim that sky jumping is a human gliding event with an an >atrocious > L/D. They do control where they go! To be perfectly obnoxious as I am wont to do often......... When you learn to sky dive, there are several techniques...one is to go to a "vertical wind tunnel" facilty. You "jump" into the updraft and soar!!! At tunnel speeds in excess of your "drag/weight" you will go up. Soaring might be defined as using updrafts to remain in the air longer than your best L/D, IMHO cheers jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]