RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-26 Thread Sheldon Smith
Mike,

That post must have taken place before my time on RCSE...and it was
definitely worth ALL of the Delete Key efforts that I've endured over the
years. What a great read...Any more out there like that, I'd sure like to
see 'em before RCSE disappears!

-Sheldon-
2008 Soaring Nationals
Head Turnaround Troll

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lachowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:52 PM
To: rdwoebke; RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

Ryan, here is the post from Dave Jones.


_

 The Shaggy Thermal

 Some time ago one of our flying friends, Jim, died. Rather sad
 really because he was such a character. It was typical of him that he
 stated in his will that he was to be buried with his Radio (fully charged)
 and his trusty Monarch HLG.
 Anyway, some few weeks later we had a seance and made contact with
 a strong presence that announced itself as Jim. He was always one to talk
 you leg off and he hadn't changed. The glass dashed madly across the board
 and nearly wore the letters out. The story that unfolded was astonishing
 and is here told and we have no way of verifying it. However here it is,
in
 full, in Jim's own words.

 I have to tell you about soaring in the after life, it's
 certainly different. The first thing that I remember was falling down for
 miles into a dark pit with my Monarch and radio clutched in my hands.
 Eventually I came to a sudden stop in a clean white marble corridor. I was
 not alone for long, a chap in an Armani suit came along and spoke to me.
 Ah yes, Jim isn't it, welcome to our little kingdom.
 Where am I?
 Oh, there is plenty of time for curiosity, all the time you want,
 but to put you in your misery this is Hades.
 Hell!
 Rather an overworked image that, we prefer Hades, it's less
 threatening, and it rhymes better.
 So who are you, the Devil.
 There you go again, no my name is Mephistopheles, and I think
that
 you will find it more correct, politically that is, to call him the Dark
 Lord, or when you get to know him Lucifer. Now come this way.
 We walked down this never ending corridor with white marble doors
 bearing notices in white paint.
 You know this isn't what I had in mind, it looks so clinical,
cool
 and clean.
 Yes, good isn't it. We get a lot of corporate interior designers
 down here so we gave them a break from the Kitsch room.
 The Kitsch room?
 Of course you are new here. You see we don't go in for that fire
 and brimstone stuff, very old fashioned. No, we find that it is best to
 tailor the eternal environment to the client. So we have all of the
 Interior designers living in a house with flock Paisley wallpaper, plastic
 flowers, black vinyl covered chairs, flourescent T.V's. They wear bright
nylon
 hawaian suits and plastic sandals, that sort of thing.
 That's not so bad?
 It is if you are an interior designer he said in an ominous tone
 and laughed.
 Look here's an interesting room, we keep all the Coke heads in
here.
 He pushed open a door to a room stacked with white powder,
mirrors,
 dollar bills and razor blades. Some figures were shuffling around in the
 distance.
 But you have given them everything that they want.
 Mephistopheles laughed.
 Yes, everything, absolutely everything, except. He waited
 expectantly for my question.
 Except what?
 Noses. Nice touch that, it was one of Lucifer's lighter moments.
 He closed the door and we walked on for hours. From time to time
 Mephistopheles would stop and open a door, it was horribly fascinating.
 There were Merchant Bankers trudging streets in ragged clothing with
 begging bowls, Heavy Metal freaks strapped to benches while Donny Osmond
 songs were played at 110 decibels, Nagging Neighbours in rooms whose walls
 were constantly being tapped, and too many more to mention now, another
 time perhaps.
 By now I was getting the idea of how the system worked and I was
 getting worried. We had reached the end of the corridor and were walking
 through a cave.
 Oh Jim, just ignore the decor around here, we haven't modernised
 it yet.
 What are these pits?
 Nothing very special, we call it the Bunyan section, it's so
corny
 now. You see here, this one is for good intentions, that one up ahead, the
 huge one, is full of politicians promises. That one ahead is full of
 advertisers lies. We've already passed the pit of adulteries, quite an
 amusing one that, perhaps my favourite. You see that pile over there, Golf
 balls, the minor demons have great fun stealing them, childish really.
 We were passing the pit of politicians lies and Mephistopheles
 dragged his hand through the slimy surface. He stopped and held up several
 strips

RE: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-26 Thread Paul Sherman

It has been a great time and many new friends found

See you all out there in the thermals beyond!!


Paul Sherman

P.S.

I need contact information for the Indiana boys as I have located a trophy 
that needs to be mailed to the new champion of the State.


Hit me up at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread John Roe
Thank you for many, many things learned and much entertainment.

I haven't flown R/C seriously in 8 years, but still follow RCSE.

I will treasure my RCSE beer bottles

JR

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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Marc Gellart
Well Mike, this is not a surprise in my book, but RCSE has been a great web 
cornerstone for a lot of years for RC soaring.  I will admit that I spend a 
fair amount of time on RCGroups, and the pics and all are great.  There is a 
lot of gobbledygook there just like there has been the same here, I guess it is 
just the web and the fact that folks can say about anything and they do, like 
some of our favorite filers have done here.  To those that supplied RCSE to us 
and as in your case oversaw it's activities and maintenance, Thank You and Joe 
very much!

Marc
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Swingle
OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a long 
stretch in internet lingo.


Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it.

So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not savy on 
what's out there.


(and let's not tell Gordy)

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Lachowski

To: RCSE
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE


The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I can't
even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to
around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is
definitely not the oldest stuff.

Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a
while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.

The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard
to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around
forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even remember
when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server
down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT
server these days.  There are probably other security reasons to shut it
down.

I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So
if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before
it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the
infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.

Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Veronica Merryfield

Bill et al

There is a group RCSE at yahoo groups. I was thinking the same and  
wondering about creating a group and found that one.


I like yahoogroups since I can get the forum as email but it does  
allow web viewing for those that prefer it.


Veronica


On 25-Aug-08, at 2:38 PM, Bill Swingle wrote:

OK, I understand the motives for shutting RCSE down. 10 years is a  
long stretch in internet lingo.


Thanks to Mike for all his efforts in opperating it.

So, the burning question now is Where shall we go? Seriously, I not  
savy on what's out there.


(and let's not tell Gordy)

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


- Original Message - From: Mike Lachowski
To: RCSE
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE


The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I  
can't

even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to
around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is
definitely not the oldest stuff.

Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion  
in a

while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.

The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of  
hard

to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around
forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even  
remember

when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server
down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows  
NT
server these days.  There are probably other security reasons to  
shut it

down.

I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon. 
So

if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before
it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the
infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.

Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
Sorry to hear that RCSE is ending soon.  RCSE is the ONLY  reason I 
still subscribe to Model Airplane News.  I feel that was the least I 
could do for giving us RCSE.  My oldest issue of MAN is dated 1947 
and I still have most issues since then.  It has been many years 
since MAN has had anything of interest to me so I will not renew my 
subscription when it expires.


MAN has been slicking up and dumbing down for years until it has sunk 
to little more than a picture magazine.  When I need something to 
read, I go to the attic and bring down a few issues of MAN, Model 
Builder, RCM, or Air Trails to read.  They are a lot more interesting 
than anything published today.  Model Builder was the last really 
interesting model magazine.


Chuck

At 04:15 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote:

The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I 
can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes 
back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that 
is definitely not the oldest stuff.


Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are 
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion 
in a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.


The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of 
hard to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been 
around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't 
even remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to 
shut the server down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be 
running a Windows NT server these days.  There are probably other 
security reasons to shut it down.


I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be 
soon.So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to 
the list before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite 
technical guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, 
RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.


Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Bill's Email

 So Long Old Friend

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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss 
it.


Dennis Hoyle

Mike Lachowski wrote:

The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I 
can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes 
back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is 
definitely not the oldest stuff.


Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are 
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in 
a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.


The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of 
hard to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been 
around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even 
remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the 
server down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a 
Windows NT server these days.  There are probably other security 
reasons to shut it down.


I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.
So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list 
before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical 
guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't 
cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.


Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Bill Swingle
Amen brother. I heard about several great airplanes through RCSE. One of which 
is my all time favorite. Thank you John Roe for your input there.

It was a great resource!

Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA

  I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss 
  it.


Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread David Webb
Hrm , dumb question but why not update the server O/S?

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The time is now for the end of RCSE.

 RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I can't
 even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes back to around
 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is definitely not the
 oldest stuff.

 Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are
 happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in a
 while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.

 The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of hard to
 get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been around forever
 in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even remember when it
 started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the server down as soon as
 they can.  It's not too cool to be running a Windows NT server these days.
  There are probably other security reasons to shut it down.

 I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.So if
 you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list before it goes
 away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical guru's discussion, flame
 war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't cover the infamous challenge by
 Lucas to Joe.

 Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread tony estep
- Original Message 

From: Mike Lachowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The time is now for the end of RCSEMaybe you can mention your favorite 
technical guru's 
discussion, flame war or Sal bashing
==
Well, this is a sad day, Mike. Although I suppose it had to happen.

I still have a file of old flame wars, name-calling, and disputes, but reading 
them now, it seems sort of gratuitous to re-post any. However, here's one 
classic.

Sal posted a gripe about Karlton in which he spelled the latter's name as 
Charlatan. When Karlton objected, Sal said it was an innocent mistake: ...my 
spell checker didn't recognize Karlton and changed it, and I didn't notice...


Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Mike Lachowski

Ryan, here is the post from Dave Jones.

_


The Shaggy Thermal

Some time ago one of our flying friends, Jim, died. Rather sad
really because he was such a character. It was typical of him that he
stated in his will that he was to be buried with his Radio (fully charged)
and his trusty Monarch HLG.
Anyway, some few weeks later we had a seance and made contact with
a strong presence that announced itself as Jim. He was always one to talk
you leg off and he hadn't changed. The glass dashed madly across the board
and nearly wore the letters out. The story that unfolded was astonishing
and is here told and we have no way of verifying it. However here it is, in
full, in Jim's own words.

I have to tell you about soaring in the after life, it's
certainly different. The first thing that I remember was falling down for
miles into a dark pit with my Monarch and radio clutched in my hands.
Eventually I came to a sudden stop in a clean white marble corridor. I was
not alone for long, a chap in an Armani suit came along and spoke to me.
Ah yes, Jim isn't it, welcome to our little kingdom.
Where am I?
Oh, there is plenty of time for curiosity, all the time you want,
but to put you in your misery this is Hades.
Hell!
Rather an overworked image that, we prefer Hades, it's less
threatening, and it rhymes better.
So who are you, the Devil.
There you go again, no my name is Mephistopheles, and I think that
you will find it more correct, politically that is, to call him the Dark
Lord, or when you get to know him Lucifer. Now come this way.
We walked down this never ending corridor with white marble doors
bearing notices in white paint.
You know this isn't what I had in mind, it looks so clinical, cool
and clean.
Yes, good isn't it. We get a lot of corporate interior designers
down here so we gave them a break from the Kitsch room.
The Kitsch room?
Of course you are new here. You see we don't go in for that fire
and brimstone stuff, very old fashioned. No, we find that it is best to
tailor the eternal environment to the client. So we have all of the
Interior designers living in a house with flock Paisley wallpaper, plastic
flowers, black vinyl covered chairs, flourescent T.V's. They wear bright nylon
hawaian suits and plastic sandals, that sort of thing.
That's not so bad?
It is if you are an interior designer he said in an ominous tone
and laughed.
Look here's an interesting room, we keep all the Coke heads in here.
He pushed open a door to a room stacked with white powder, mirrors,
dollar bills and razor blades. Some figures were shuffling around in the
distance.
But you have given them everything that they want.
Mephistopheles laughed.
Yes, everything, absolutely everything, except. He waited
expectantly for my question.
Except what?
Noses. Nice touch that, it was one of Lucifer's lighter moments.
He closed the door and we walked on for hours. From time to time
Mephistopheles would stop and open a door, it was horribly fascinating.
There were Merchant Bankers trudging streets in ragged clothing with
begging bowls, Heavy Metal freaks strapped to benches while Donny Osmond
songs were played at 110 decibels, Nagging Neighbours in rooms whose walls
were constantly being tapped, and too many more to mention now, another
time perhaps.
By now I was getting the idea of how the system worked and I was
getting worried. We had reached the end of the corridor and were walking
through a cave.
Oh Jim, just ignore the decor around here, we haven't modernised
it yet.
What are these pits?
Nothing very special, we call it the Bunyan section, it's so corny
now. You see here, this one is for good intentions, that one up ahead, the
huge one, is full of politicians promises. That one ahead is full of
advertisers lies. We've already passed the pit of adulteries, quite an
amusing one that, perhaps my favourite. You see that pile over there, Golf
balls, the minor demons have great fun stealing them, childish really.
We were passing the pit of politicians lies and Mephistopheles
dragged his hand through the slimy surface. He stopped and held up several
strips of decaying paper. I read them quickly; Peace in our time, Watch
my lips, Full Employment, The Triumph of the Proletariat. He tossed
them carelessly back into the pit.
Up ahead the light flickered, we were entering Lucifer's office, to
the right was a huge flaming pit, something else that hadn't been
modernised.
I would advise you to be polite, he can get nasty.
Sure, anything you say.
Imagine my surprise when I was walked up to a table and sitting
there was the Dark Lord dressed like a Tax Inspector.
Next case.