Re: [SoaS] SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, Thanks for testing. Peter, Is there any reason we need elements in the build? I don't think it is used by anything but Physics in Sugar and Physics carries its own copy with it. Why do we need to bundle it? Ultimately Fedora has a policy of not bundling libraries so I suspect it was using the upstream rather than a random fork. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Physics - SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
Hello, Le 12/12/2013 05:14, Frederick Grose a écrit : On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, Thanks for testing. Peter, Is there any reason we need elements in the build ? I don't think it is *used by anything but Physics in Sugar* and Physics carries its own copy with it. -walter Thank you for your interest in the *Physics activity* which is important - as a simple game for young children - and as a teaching tool for older children. There is also a *Physics Python program* in Pippy. A simple display with no apparent interactivity (and no hand). Do they use common tools ? Gary Martin has a Physics-11 in Fedora and the Activity Library, http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4193#version-11 that is installed in SoaS. This is what I must have been launching when I clicked the Physics.xo item in my Documents folder in the Journal. Copying Walter's Physics-11.xo to the Journal and launching from there (after erasing the original Physics-11.xo) AND hiding /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/elements was effective in launching and running Physics in Fedora 20 TC5. --Fred Sincerely hours, Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Physics - SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote: Hello, Le 12/12/2013 05:14, Frederick Grose a écrit : On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, Thanks for testing. Peter, Is there any reason we need elements in the build ? I don't think it is *used by anything but Physics in Sugar* and Physics carries its own copy with it. -walter Thank you for your interest in the *Physics activity* which is important - as a simple game for young children It is a dynamic paint program :). One of the new features in the next release is a pen you can attach to objects to trace their paths. - and as a teaching tool for older children. There is also a *Physics Python program* in Pippy. A simple display with no apparent interactivity (and no hand). Do they use common tools ? Yes. Although I need to clean up the code included with Pippy. (A new Pippy will be released soon as well.) Gary Martin has a Physics-11 in Fedora and the Activity Library, http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addons/versions/4193#version-11 that is installed in SoaS. This is what I must have been launching when I clicked the Physics.xo item in my Documents folder in the Journal. Copying Walter's Physics-11.xo to the Journal and launching from there (after erasing the original Physics-11.xo) AND hiding /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/elements was effective in launching and running Physics in Fedora 20 TC5. --Fred Sincerely hours, Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Pippy - SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
[Axul-bureau][Axul-debats][Axul-linux] Merci pour votre message recopié ci-dessous avec quelques réponses. A bientôt sur Internet, Jean Thiéry [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] Membre d'OLPC-France [http://olpc-france.org/wiki/] Membre de l'Aful [http://www.aful.org/] Secrétaire de l'Axul [http://www.axul.org/] Secrétaire de la SFBT [http://www.sfbt.org/] === Message original === === Message antérieur == Le 12/12/2013 13:56, Walter Bender a écrit : On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote: Hello, Le 12/12/2013 05:14, Frederick Grose a écrit : ... There is also a *Physics Python program* in Pippy. A simple display with no apparent interactivity (and no hand). Do they use common tools ? Yes. Although I need to clean up the code included with Pippy. (A new Pippy will be released soon as well.) Thank you for this future Pippy version. On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:43:31 +0100 jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote pippy-53 seems to work [ok] in general *but has PROBLEMS with some Python examples* *such as Life and ALL sounds* For *sounds* there are messages such as « NameError: global name '...' is not defined » For *Life* there is an old problem probably due to boundary conditions i.e, problems in matrix indexes. I hope to be able to analyze this index problem on Saturday or Sunday. regards. -walter Sincerely hours, Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Pippy - SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote: [Axul-bureau][Axul-debats][Axul-linux] Merci pour votre message recopié ci-dessous avec quelques réponses. A bientôt sur Internet, Jean Thiéry [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] Membre d'OLPC-France [http://olpc-france.org/wiki/] Membre de l'Aful [http://www.aful.org/] Secrétaire de l'Axul [http://www.axul.org/] Secrétaire de la SFBT [http://www.sfbt.org/] === Message original === === Message antérieur == Le 12/12/2013 13:56, Walter Bender a écrit : On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Jean THIERY jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote: Hello, Le 12/12/2013 05:14, Frederick Grose a écrit : ... There is also a *Physics Python program* in Pippy. A simple display with no apparent interactivity (and no hand). Do they use common tools ? Yes. Although I need to clean up the code included with Pippy. (A new Pippy will be released soon as well.) Thank you for this future Pippy version. Could you test http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/Pippy-51.xo ? On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:43:31 +0100 jean.thi...@modlibre.info wrote pippy-53 seems to work [ok] in general *but has PROBLEMS with some Python examples* *such as Life and ALL sounds* I think the sound examples should all work, as long as TamTam is installed and working. For *sounds* there are messages such as « NameError: global name '...' is not defined » For *Life* there is an old problem probably due to boundary conditions i.e, problems in matrix indexes. I couldn't find any problem with Life. Could you explain in more detail the problem? I hope to be able to analyze this index problem on Saturday or Sunday. thanks. regards. -walter Sincerely hours, Jean [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/] -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
New failure in Physics-11Walter:
{...}
Weird. That is a new bug. Try to grab a screen shot if you can.
Attached.
thx
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
Log also attached.
When the model was started the activity crashed and disappeared.
--Fred
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox)
1386890267.853905 WARNING root: KeepButton has been deprecated since Sugar 0.94
and should not be used in newly written code.
1386890267.856247 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.859673 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.894453 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.897649 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.900948 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.908378 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386890267.910710 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/graphics/window.py:173: GtkWarning:
IA__gtk_container_remove: assertion 'GTK_IS_TOOLBAR (container) ||
widget-parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed
self.__hbox.remove(self._canvas)
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/datastore/datastore.py:103:
UnicodeWarning: Unicode unequal comparison failed to convert both arguments to
Unicode - interpreting them as being unequal
if key not in self._properties or self._properties[key] != value:
1386891225.747478 ERROR root: pygame already stopped? video system not
initialized
1386891225.750179 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386891225.750442 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386891225.750675 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386891225.753937 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
* Pygame selected as renderer
alpha difference: 46.7221965664
concave
alpha difference: 65.9787390523
concave
is line
concave
* Add Joint: (b2Body(
allowSleep= True,
angle = 0.0,
angularDamping= 0.0,
angularVelocity = 0.0,
fixedRotation = False,
isBullet = False,
isSleeping= False,
linearDamping = 0.0,
linearVelocity= b2Vec2(0,0),
massData = b2MassData(
I = 0.237763956189,
center = b2Vec2(3.6194e-09,-0.005),
mass = 0.417489856482),
position = b2Vec2(8.1,4.24),
userData = {'color': (32, 61, 97)},
GetInertia() = 0.237763956189,
GetLocalCenter() = b2Vec2(3.6194e-09,-0.005),
GetMass() = 0.417489856482,
GetWorldCenter() = b2Vec2(8.1,4.235),
GetXForm()= b2XForm(
R= b2Mat22(
col1 = b2Vec2(1,0),
col2 = b2Vec2(-0,1),
GetAngle() = 0.0),
position = b2Vec2(8.1,4.24)),
IsBullet()= False,
IsDynamic() = True,
IsFrozen()= False,
IsFixedRotation() = False,
IsSleeping() = False,
IsStatic()= False), [811, 517])
* Add Joint: (b2Body(
allowSleep= True,
angle = 0.0,
angularDamping= 0.0,
angularVelocity = 0.0,
fixedRotation = False,
isBullet = False,
isSleeping= False,
linearDamping = 0.0,
linearVelocity= b2Vec2(0,0),
massData = b2MassData(
I = 1.14382362366,
center = b2Vec2(0.0244926,-0.152662),
mass = 0.756623983383),
position = b2Vec2(3.86,7.41),
userData = {'color': (103, 149, 206)},
GetInertia() = 1.14382362366,
GetLocalCenter() = b2Vec2(0.0244926,-0.152662),
GetMass() = 0.756623983383,
GetWorldCenter() = b2Vec2(3.88449,7.25734),
GetXForm()= b2XForm(
R= b2Mat22(
col1 = b2Vec2(1,0),
col2 = b2Vec2(-0,1),
GetAngle() = 0.0),
position = b2Vec2(3.86,7.41)),
IsBullet()= False,
IsDynamic() = True,
IsFrozen()= False,
IsFixedRotation() = False,
IsSleeping() = False,
IsStatic()= False), [372, 225])
Exited with status 0, pid 2663 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at
0x900db78, dbus.ByteArray('9b3bdd22601541b366fc67e618b547cbc140fd36',
variant_level=1))
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Re: [SoaS] SoaS v10 TC5 tests with important activities INCLUDED in the standard distribution
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
New failure in Physics-11Walter:
{...}
Weird. That is a new bug. Try to grab a screen shot if you can.
Attached.
thx
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
Log also attached.
When the model was started the activity crashed and disappeared.
Repeatable (n=3)
1. Launch Physics-11Walter,
2. Drop several triangles into model,
3. Grab one and sling it around.
4. Erase all
5. Draw first line,
6. Stop model,
7. Draw 2nd 3rd lines,
8. Pin 3rd line,
9. Motor axle 2nd line,
10. Grab first line and reposition it.
11. Pin it.
Origin-to-pin/axle-point lines may appear at step 10 or 11.
12. Start model
Activity crashes and disappears.
On repeat 4, the origin lines and crash did not occur until I dropped
a disc onto a jammed line1 and propeller(line2).
This attached log may belong to repeat 2 or 3.
--Fred
** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox)
1386915805.519899 WARNING root: KeepButton has been deprecated since Sugar 0.94
and should not be used in newly written code.
1386915805.522353 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.526240 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.562041 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.565674 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.568567 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.575474 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
1386915805.578038 WARNING root: No gtk.AccelGroup in the top level window.
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/graphics/window.py:173: GtkWarning:
IA__gtk_container_remove: assertion 'GTK_IS_TOOLBAR (container) ||
widget-parent == GTK_WIDGET (container)' failed
self.__hbox.remove(self._canvas)
* Pygame selected as renderer
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
212, in _mousemove_cb
self._post(evt)
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py, line
246, in _post
raise e
pygame.error: video system not initialized
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/liveuser/Activities/Physics.activity/sugargame/event.py,
