Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4
On 11/22/2014 04:58 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 11:55 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Iain, Can you copy the attached file to the path where the help activity is installed and confirm if the problem is solved? Yes, Help now starts and displays complete with images. Perfect. I will do a new release. The activity should start and show the images in the help pages. However, I have not seen Help available from any tested Activity's icon in the Frame. Right, we need apply a patch in Sugar to do the same change. Maybe we can include the patch in the rpm too, if we don't have a new release before F21. New release of what before F-21? I've seen the new Help and I'll push that as an update today. I'm going to file for a freeze exception to get a few Activities updated for GA but Fedora is now in freeze so any other fixes need to be ASAP. Peter Look at these screen shots of an install of SoaS Beta_final_ TC3 (errors in logs app.)[1] Memorize and Portfolio are shown listed Note that Help-18 now works (from software update) Tom Gilliard satellit [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#F21_TC3_SoaS_Application_Errors_.28log_app.29 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Thanks by the logs. Now I understand what is happening with the Help activity. Our hack to create symlinks for the _static and _images directories don't work if the activity is installed in /usr because we don't have write permission. One alternative is rewrite the links at the client side with javascript. I don't understand what is happening with the Memorize activity. About Speak, please check if there are a file bot/alice.brn in the activity directory. The file is included in the sources http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Speak/Speak-48.tar.bz2 Gonzalo On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Iain Brown Douglas i...@browndouglas.plus.com wrote: Thank you for all the work put into this new version of Sugar on a Stick. In brief testing, Sugar on a Stick prepared on a USB stick with Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso seems to run mostly as expected. Help is not available from any tested Activity's icon in the Frame. Help 17.2 does not start, reports Help Failed to Start. Speak 48, works in type some text mode. In ask a question mode Alice always replies I do not understand what you are talking about Memorize 48, does not start, reports Memorize Failed to Start. Etoys 116 fails. A dialog Cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'initsqueak -m'? is seen, followed by a Sorry, best to abandon (or similar) message. Alternatively, [liveuser@localhost ~]$ inisqueak -m No default image, looking for alternatives... I could not find an image to install. Did you install squeak-image? Please check your Squeak installation. In the second case Etoys opens, rapidly becomes unusable, and will will not close with Stop button, I have attached logs from the 4 Activities. With thanks Iain ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Etoys in RC4 SoaS-v7 does not start when jabber is connected. ( f17 release is imminent )
On 05/27/2012 05:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: I have been testing the RC4 f17 release of SoaS [1] and I see a problem with e-toys: If jabber.sugarlabs.org is connected via a wireless AP, or wired network, e-toys will not start: DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 Etoys runs fine if wireless is not logged in and/or wired network is not connected. (no jabber connected) As Etoys is a favorite on the f3 ring and f17 release is imminent, I feel that this is an important bug to look at. Sorry, it was reported too late. It should have also been reported to the soas list. I have been reporting this occasional failure, But only realized what was causing this behavior 3 days ago. : ( It is possible to use E-toys but the DBusError created by the starting example is very distracting. See bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3640#comment:1 The start up example seems to require process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
On 03/19/2012 08:03 AM, Art Hunkins wrote: FWIW, this version fails to install correctly to a 2GB USB stick via Live-USB-Creator. The log report: Traceback (most recent call last): File liveusb\gui.pyc, line 420, in status TypeError: QTextEdit.append(QString): argument 1 has unexpected type 'int' The stick also fails to boot on a computer. I suspect the problem has more to do with the compatibility between Live-USB-Creator and the TC2-Beta .iso however. Am I correct? reported bug: liveusb-creator fails to start in f17[1] use /tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh (as listed below) for a persistent USB-stick [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796489 Art Hunkins - Original Message - *From:* Thomas C Gilliard mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com *To:* SoaS mailto:soas@lists.sugarlabs.org ; Sugar Devel mailto:sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:15 PM *Subject:* [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Test results: * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Tested CD usingPenguin Libre GNU / Linux Notebook i3. (all free drivers) * Boots to name___; Color___ * Wireless AP (WEP) Connects and stays connected * Sees Jabber About my Computer Build Sugar on a Stick 7 Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) Sugar 0.95.4 Firmware 2.60 Activities 2-) Tested in VirtualBox 4.1.10 install to 8 GB HD Use whole Disk [x]use LVM key=not favorite; ok=starts and saves; == updates to: etoys 116*no* DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 (pulsing in top bar after quit) visual match35 ok chat73 ok ==74 ok maze15 ok moon13 ok abacus 31*no* failed to start AttributeError: 'AbacusActivity' object has no attribute 'set_toolbox'*are we shipping too new a version here?* turtle art 136 ok write 77 ok ==78 ok typing turtle 29 ok speak 36 ok ==37 ok jukebox 23 ok irc 10 ok pippy 45 ok?* ==46 ok fixed*(Physics does not start in 45) memorize39 ok portfolio 21 ok image viewer19 ok? no matching entries log 26 ok ==27 ok calculate 38 ok record 93==94 ok sees VirtualBox USB Camera ruler 19 ok clock7 ok physics 9 ok terminal35 ok read 97*no* failed to start browse 131 ok ==132 ok tools_livecd-iso-to-disk Persistent USB-stick 4 GB EMTEC USB-stick sudo ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 900 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)1 Verifying image... ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 806: checkisomd5: command not found Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 489975808 100%6.98MB/s0:01:06 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 490035693 bytes received 31 bytes 7259788.50 bytes/sec total size is 489975808 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 8192 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 8265 bytes received 31 bytes 16592.00 bytes/sec total size is 8192 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file 500+0 records in 500+0 records out 524288000 bytes (524 MB) copied, 86.1616 s, 6.1 MB/s Initializing persistent /home 900+0 records in 900+0 records out 943718400 bytes (944 MB) copied, 211.095 s, 4.5 MB/s Formatting unencrypted /home mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 57600 inodes, 230400 blocks 11520 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=239075328 8 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 7200 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376 Writing inode
[SoaS] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar Test results: * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS * http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3907156name=Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Tested CD usingPenguin Libre GNU / Linux Notebook i3. (all free drivers) * Boots to name___; Color___ * Wireless AP (WEP) Connects and stays connected * Sees Jabber About my Computer Build Sugar on a Stick 7 Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) Sugar 0.95.4 Firmware 2.60 Activities 2-) Tested in VirtualBox 4.1.10 install to 8 GB HD Use whole Disk [x]use LVM key=not favorite; ok=starts and saves; == updates to: etoys 116*no* DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 (pulsing in top bar after quit) visual match35 ok chat73 ok ==74 ok maze15 ok moon13 ok abacus 31*no* failed to start AttributeError: 'AbacusActivity' object has no attribute 'set_toolbox'*are we shipping too new a version here?* turtle art 136 ok write 77 ok ==78 ok typing turtle 29 ok speak 36 ok ==37 ok jukebox 23 ok irc 10 ok pippy 45 ok?* ==46 ok fixed*(Physics does not start in 45) memorize39 ok portfolio 21 ok image viewer19 ok? no matching entries log 26 ok ==27 ok calculate 38 ok record 93==94 ok sees VirtualBox USB Camera ruler 19 ok clock7 ok physics 9 ok terminal35 ok read 97*no* failed to start browse 131 ok ==132 ok tools_livecd-iso-to-disk Persistent USB-stick 4 GB EMTEC USB-stick sudo ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 900 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)1 Verifying image... ./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh: line 806: checkisomd5: command not found Are you SURE you want to continue? Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 489975808 100%6.98MB/s0:01:06 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 490035693 bytes received 31 bytes 7259788.50 bytes/sec total size is 489975808 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 8192 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 8265 bytes received 31 bytes 16592.00 bytes/sec total size is 8192 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file 500+0 records in 500+0 records out 524288000 bytes (524 MB) copied, 86.1616 s, 6.1 MB/s Initializing persistent /home 900+0 records in 900+0 records out 943718400 bytes (944 MB) copied, 211.095 s, 4.5 MB/s Formatting unencrypted /home mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 57600 inodes, 230400 blocks 11520 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=239075328 8 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 7200 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376 Writing inode tables: done Creating journal (4096 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done This filesystem will be automatically checked every 39 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override. tune2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) Setting maximal mount count to -1 Setting interval between checks to 0 seconds Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Fedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS testing results
Gonzalo: I re-testedFedora-17-Beta-TC2-i686-Live-SoaS Read 97 again: In a software updated Persistent USB-stick and with an Live CD: Started write and saved 4 copies of a write file as: .txt started Read ok from journal .pdf started Read ok from journal .rtf started Read ok from journal .html started Read ok from journal (with default settings) problems here: Resume with Drop Down Menu: -Write started Read ok from journal -Etoys gets grey screen (this may be the Etoys DbusErrors listed in my testing) -Browse get Unable to load page URL cannot be shown (the URL from the sugar journal may be too complex?) (I get pulsing write icons in the top bar of the frame after Write 77 saves these 4 files and exits After these tests I had 4 write pulsing icons on top bar of frame that do not time out. Only a restart will stop them.) Write 78 seems to fix this. My first tests were done with an empty journal. Read actually works very nicely. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar On 03/18/2012 04:53 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com mailto:satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Please look at this: These activities need to be fixed Abacus etoys read Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar What is the problem with Read? Can you provide a log file? Gonzalo ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Record with camera and microphone input on VirtualBox / VMWare
On 03/01/2012 11:22 AM, Gary Martin wrote: On 1 Mar 2012, at 15:31, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi SoaS folks... plus Greg! If you do find a way to do this it would be wonderful. But, it will have to be easy to explain to parents, teachers, and kids. They are our target audience (right?). I'll forward a copy of this to Greg Dreshler up at UCSB. He was one of my booth volunteers from SCaLE 10X and is very knowledgable about how to use Parallels. Maybe he will have some ideas too. If you guys can figure this out and show me how, I will write the documentation to make it easy for our target audience to do. I think USB devices with USB passthrough might be the easiest to do on all various different virt platforms. I believe all of them support USB passthrough and on the SoaS side we shouldn't need anything special in particular as it should just see a new USB device. Just tested on VirtualBox 4.1.8 for OSX on a MacBookPro i7 in GNOME 3.3.5 with cheese Defined the USB camera for pass though: Apple Inc.Facetime HD Camera (Built in) (0516) I got a green light on camera but no image. Yes, when I last tested on my Mac (last late year) the camera device was passed through to the VM, but back then Fedora did not recognise the hardware correctly, the Mac hw camera led would light up when in 'use' but otherwise just a black image. Sorry I haven't tested a more recent build. Regards, --Gary Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fix for Browse 131.xo on XO-1 os833- (how to remove it)
If you drag-drop Browse 131.xo to an XO-1 on os833 (sugar 0.94) you will find that browse will not start and you cannot erase it (greyed out option). Effectively you have lost your Browser. (browse 131 and 130 are not compatible uses gtk +3**) There will be a lot of releases of new activities using gtk +3 . This tecnique may be a way to revert the critical applications where erase is greyed out. Be sure to visit [2] to see if the activity version is compatable first. To Fix: Drag-drop Browse 127.xo [1] from a USB stick and click OK to install an older version. Then go to My Settings/Software update and click on Browse 129.1 and update it. [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4024/browse-127.xo Works and saves re-imaging the XO-1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC [1] http://download.sugarlabs.org/activities/4024/browse-127.xo [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announcing: ASLOxo-6-3 DVD -Updated: Added new activities from the sugar-devel list up to: 01/21/2012
This is what I have been using to test activities with in a DVD format: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Activity_Matrix#Most_Recent-Activity_Test_Results Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar * http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo6-3.iso 3.2 GB (DVD) *Updated: Added new activities from the sugar-devel list up to:* 01/21/2012 To View tests and compatibility of some of the included Activities (works off-line) on the included *Activity_Matrix* web page; Open the *Activity_Matrix.html* file in the *Activity_List Folder* on the DVD with Firefox, or in Sugar Browse 129 or Surf 115. Or. Copy contents of DVD to a USB-stick and open the USB-stick *Activity_Matrix.html* file in Sugar Browse 129 or Surf 115. - (Browse 130 does not open it in f17) * Suggestion: *copy only the ones* you want from the DVD to a (fat 16/32) USB-stick; Insert it and use it to drag-drop install a custom suite of activities to Sugar. Activities.xo files can be installed by drag-dropping them into the Sugar Journal from a mounted DVD or a USB to which they have been copied. * *Use as an off-line sneaker net- Download one time and have an off-line library of Sugar-activities on hand.* ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-17-Nightly-20120120.10-i686-Live-soas.iso is first Nightly Compose to Boot. (Testing report)
Finally the Nightly Composes work. First look at f17 Soas: -liveinst fails -no wireless AP or Ad-hoc -Cat-5 wired network OK. -liveusb-creator makes live USB's Preliminary report; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-17-Nightly-20120120.10-i686-Live-soas.iso Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announcing 2 New Items
Announcing 2 Items I took advantage of the lack of activity on the wiki on Dec 24-25 to work on the following: 1-) Introduction to the sugar interface.iso [1] A set of Annotated screen shots as Web Page.html files with the accompanying folder containing the files for the .html Intended to be run from a 2nd USB (or CD) where there is NO Internet Connection Available. * Contents: ReadMeFirst.txt Firefox-6-xo - web browser Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface.html Connecting_to_the_Internet.html Drag-Drop.html How_to_use_IRC.html How_to_use_Chat.html Terminal.html - A downloaded .html from Floss Manuals http://en.flossmanuals.net/terminal/Floss * Firefox-6.xo installed from this USB-stick has been successfully tested viewing the .html web pages on the USB-stick. a G1G1 XO-1 running os508dx - (Dextrose2) XO-1.5 running os874 - (sugar 0.92.1) a ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 Netbook - (Trisquel-5-Sugar) Live CD - NO Internet Connection a ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 Netbook - (f16-SoaS-Pineapple) Live CD - NO Internet Connection a MacBookPro i7 booted into OSX and running firefox for OSX ; *Firefox-6.xo NOT used.* VirualBox 4.1 for OSX with install of Sugar 0.95.1 in Mageia http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Mageia release 2 (no other browser works on this Distro) 2-) Set up MacBook to Open items automatically when you log in [2] Make New Virtual Appliance for USB-stick containing .vdi files* When the MacBook is powered on, it will boot up in VirtualBox pointed at this Virtual Appliance on the USB-stick This Procedure can be used on multiple Macs to use the same USB-stick containing the Virtual Appliance of Sugar. *The test stick contains a (Persistent) Trisquel-5.0-sugar VirtualBox install, hard drive (.vdi files), copied to the USB-stick. /home/(user)/VirtualBox VMs/ (copy all three files to USB-stick) [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit#File:CD.pngintroduction_to_the_sugar_interface_.28CD.iso.29 [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Improve_Sugar_on_a_Stick#Set_up_MacBook_to_Open_items_automatically_when_you_log_in ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick/Project sitemap
Iain; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit Is a front-end to a lot of these pages. Be sure to check the links on it before moving pages into an archive. Thanks; Tom Giliard satellit_ On 12/20/2011 07:02 AM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: Solstice greetings, I have just created the page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Project_sitemap . When I was very new to Sugar I spent quite a long time getting my bearings. It seems there are now some 75 pages to Sugar on a Stick! This page starts off as a maintenance tool. It is possible that it could evolve into a project site-map, which would be useful index to a newcomer. I am volunteering to help archive some of the older pages of SoaS. I come from a point of little experience, so will rely in input from others. Please help if you can. There is some discussion of my proposal here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick/Getting_Involved Regards, Iain. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [Testing] I would like feedback on the How_to_use_the_IRC_Application wiki page
Thank you for your comments; I have tried to do some of what you requested: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/How_to_use_IRC I reduced the size of the screen-shots[1] and tried to bullet all user actions in a more consistent way. [1] Editing is easy: [[File:Screenshot_of_IRC_Join_cmd2.png|600px]] the |xxxpx can be adjusted easily for the best size. Please do edit this wiki page, I value all additions and points of view. This page was composed last night, after a request for such a guide on #sugar IRC Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar (I was trained as a geological oceanographer, so my writing style may reflect this.) On 12/13/2011 02:20 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:41:07AM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: I just wrote this wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#How_to_use_the_IRC_Application (Annotated screen shots that show you how to use the IRC application) My question: Is this a useful way to build guides for beginners? No, because the way leads to a guide that is very hard to read. The text styles keep changing. Use of indentation is inconsistent. The images are too large and break up the flow of the text. Some bolding is used spuriously. The difference between user actions and software actions is not clear. Terms are inconsistent with Sugar design (e.g. f3 screen). No mention of needing an internet connection first. These things would conspire to make it very hard for a beginner to read the page. You might like to read an english style guide. Also try to think in terms your reader will understand, and each time you use a word, consider whether it is the right word to use. I think as it is a wiki these provide a way for users to participate in updating in these guides. I would like feedback on this project. Good idea. I won't edit it though, because I don't know you'd agree with the changes I make. ;-) ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [Testing] I would like feedback on the ''How_to_use_the_IRC_Application'' wiki page
Thank you for the suggestions; I changed all of the references to f3 to Home (or f3) in; http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/How_to_use_IRC and: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Connecting_to_the_Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop Unfortunately; I am not skilled enough to add cursors to the screen-shots. But in each one, the proper icon is highlighted for the dialog. Regards; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar All help gladly accepted; It is a wiki On 12/13/2011 03:51 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Tom Yes the smaller screenshots are better as per James' suggestion. It is good if you can show the tooltip and manually add a cursor which shows the next step. I have edited the first screenshot to show what I mean. (You might want to redo it though to get consistent colours and size) I have also edited 'F3' to 'Home (or F3)' as per James' suggestion Tony Thank you for your comments; I have tried to do some of what you requested: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/How_to_use_IRC I reduced the size of the screen-shots[1] and tried to bullet all user actions in a more consistent way. [1] Editing is easy: [[File:Screenshot_of_IRC_Join_cmd2.png|600px]] the |xxxpx can be adjusted easily for the best size. Please do edit this wiki page, I value all additions and points of view. This page was composed last night, after a request for such a guide on #sugar IRC Cordially Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar (I was trained as a geological oceanographer, so my writing style may reflect this.) On 12/13/2011 02:20 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 07:41:07AM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: I just wrote this wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#How_to_use_the_IRC_Application (Annotated screen shots that show you how to use the IRC application) My question: Is this a useful way to build guides for beginners? No, because the way leads to a guide that is very hard to read. The text styles keep changing. Use of indentation is inconsistent. The images are too large and break up the flow of the text. Some bolding is used spuriously. The difference between user actions and software actions is not clear. Terms are inconsistent with Sugar design (e.g. f3 screen). No mention of needing an internet connection first. These things would conspire to make it very hard for a beginner to read the page. You might like to read an english style guide. Also try to think in terms your reader will understand, and each time you use a word, consider whether it is the right word to use. I think as it is a wiki these provide a way for users to participate in updating in these guides. I would like feedback on this project. Good idea. I won't edit it though, because I don't know you'd agree with the changes I make. ;-) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] New: Linked wiki pages with annotated screen-shots of Sugar
Take a look at these 3 new linked; annotated; screen-shot filled wiki pages: Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Introduction to Sugar Interface http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Introduction_to_Sugar_Interface, Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Connecting to the Internet http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Connecting_to_the_Internet, Sugar Creation Kit/sck/Drag-Drop http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Drag-Drop; I hope that this format is useful the wiki can provide a good collaboration space for documentation. FGrose Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Custom build from git repository
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Build_Your_Own_Remix_with_Fedora Would a remix do it? On 12/07/2011 04:03 AM, Raffael Reichelt wrote: Hello! I just tried to prepare a custom image of SOAS V6 from spins git repository. Unfortunately I could not find any other branches then master - already changed to upcoming F17 builds. Is there a way stay with the current release instead? Best regards, Raffael ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Thanks for your order at OSDisc.com!
Ramsey Brenner OSDisc.com Founder Dear Sir: I am writing to express my disappointment that the 4 GB USB-stick with f16-Soas I just ordered, has no persistence. 1) You could build the USB with LiveUsb-Creator in windows or linux with persistence (why sell a 4 GB stick for less than 1 GB of Content): https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ Also though it has an EFI folder It will not boot my Macbook Pri i7: 2-) This works (It boots on a Mac Only): http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB To Duplicate: (dd write to an .img file and use the .img to dd write copies on new USB-sticks) Cordially; Thomas Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar freenode IRC On 12/01/2011 09:28 AM, OSDisc.com sales dept wrote: Dear Thomas C Gilliard, Thank you for placing your order at OSDisc.com. We pride ourselves on delivering the best possible shopping experience to you and all of our customers. That means that from the moment you enter OSDisc.com to the moment your order is delivered to your door - we are dedicated to your satisfaction. We have included your complete order information below. Please feel free to contact us at anytime if you have any questions regarding this or any other order by visitinghttp://www.osdisc.com/support/ or by emailing customer servicesupp...@osdisc.com. Once again, thank you for placing your order with OSDisc.com. We value your business and will continue to offer a large selection, fast shipping, friendly service, and low prices. Sincerely, Ramsey Brenner OSDisc.com Founder Order #199633 Placed 2011-12-01 Description Qty Price Total Fedora 16 Sugar On A Stick - 4GB USB Flash Drive (PC) 1 14.95 14.95 Subtotal: $14.95 First Class Mail Shipping: $2.15 Tax: $0.00 TOTAL: $17.10 USD Please remember the following as you await your order: * Your order will usually be shipped the next business day. Thanks again. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Let liveusb-creator know how to write dd created USB.img files in the graphical program
It would be great to have liveusb-creator know how to write dd created USB.img files in the graphical program, I am producing these files for sugarlabs as a way to mass-produce Sugar on a Stick: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img Currently we write the USB with the command: dd if=Soas_Coconuts.img of=/dev/sd(x) bs=2M dd is very dangerous for the average user (In our case teachers and students) to employ as it will destroy a hard disk with out warning. It would be nice to be able to employ the user friendly features of liveusb-creator: 1-) graphical GUI 2-) ability to specify a local .iso (.img?) file 3-) not showing the local Hard Disk. Thomas Gilliard ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announcing 3 USB .img files of SoaS to write with dd
Here is a new Soas-v6-Pineapple .img file to use to dd write to a 2GB USB http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v6-Pineapple-USB_.img There is also http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img and For Macintosh-(Boots directly in a limited number of intel Macs) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_1_GB_EFI_Boot_.28MAC.29_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img These are a great way to produce a number of SoaS bootable USB's from one download of the .img file Key:/dev/sd(x) Be sure to type mount in terminal first to determine the correct device name for your USB ie: /dev/sdb; /dev/sdcetc Here is a typical root terminal session: dd if=Soas_Coconuts.img of=/dev/sd(x) bs=2M 956+0 records in 956+0 records out 2004877312 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 93.2584 s, 21.5 MB/s Note this only takes 93 seconds to write a USB. Tom Gilliard satellit_ on IRC #sugar ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] Need Help With SoaS! (Including Mac) dd writable USB.img files
Do it from Terminal. Not image-writer-mac ! This is a 1 GB USB that was imaged with dd. Cordially Tom Gilliard ===Write to a 1 GB USB device=== sudo su Password dd if=SoaS-15-1-EFI.img of=/dev/sd(x) bs=2M 489+1 records in 489+1 records out 1026555904 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 216.577 s, 4.7 MB/s On 11/24/2011 08:14 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 23.11.2011, at 06:45, Thomas Gilliard wrote: Caryl; I know it requires using the terminal, but these 2 Soas-v5-Coconut .img files may be the easiest way to build a number of booting SoaS USB sticks for your presentation. The instructions (actual screen shots of terminal of the writing to the USB's are included in these pages) The command in terminal can be repeated for each new USB that is inserted Note that the EFI 1 GB USB is written in less than 4 minutes. 1-) PC http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img 2-) Macbook EFI Boot: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_1_GB_EFI_Boot_.28MAC.29_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img Just be sure to enter mount in terminal to see the device name for your USB ie: /dev/sdb; /dev/sdc; /dev/sdc.. It is VERY IMPORTANT to have this set correctly. Cordailly; Tom Gilliard satellit_ on #sugar IRC I tried the Mac EFI one. Used the image-writer-mac (*) script to dd it onto the stick. It booted my MacBook Pro, I saw the 10 second Fedora pre-boot count down, but after that I just got a blank screen. - Bert - (*) I have a minor update at http://git.sugarlabs.org/image-writer Could someone with SoaS write permissions replace this on the release server? http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/ Thanks! [converting this into an AppleScript would be the simplest to avoid having to use the Terminal] ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] f16-SoaS_boot_USB_for_XO-1
I just built a Persistent f16-SoaS-i686 USB that boots on a G1G1 XO-1; slow but works correctly. I have not successfully booted it on the XO-1.5 but I am still testing. see for details: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#f16-SoaS_boot_USB_for_XO-1 Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS v7?
This is an example of a dd writable SoaS-v2.img file which produces a fully functional Conventional install on a USB. This is equivalent to a liveinst install to USB.[1] It was first suggested by bernie [2] in early 2010 as a better alternative to the currently used live USB SoaS filesystems with their fragile and limited sized overlay, * This functionality is expected to be included in fedora 17 liveinst (Anaconda) * It would be even nicer to be able to create and install to USB, the Soas-v7.img file directly from the first sugar boot screen as a third option line, rather from a obscure liveinst command in terminal. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#A-Non-Live_.28real_file_structured.29_USB (a working 4GB dd Soas-v2.img file and description. As proof of concept) [2] http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Direct_Soas.txt (Original Announcement) SoaS-v6 is great...thanks Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 11/09/2011 04:18 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, So there's no rest for the wicked its time to think about what you would like to develop for SoaS v7. I know upstream is all very busy already the sugar team are full pelt into the conversion of sugar to gtk3 and PyGI and there's all sorts of fun stuff going into Fedora... so what do you want? Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB )
On 11/02/2011 12:16 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi... I am following the progress of this with great interest, and as soon as I finish the work I promised to do on the Help Activity/Users Manual refresh, I will have a chance to try it. I do have a few questions that will help me get started. 1) Which Mac OS X are you running? Mac OSX 10.6.8 2.7 GHZ Intel Core i7 2) Has this been tested on a MacBook? MacBook Pro 8.1 Intel HD Graphics 3000 GPU 3) Can I create the persistent usb on my MacBook using the instructions I found in item 4 on this page? I do not think that this can be done from a mac. I used a fully updated f16 gnome3-shell hard disk install to write the EFI USB Run: yum install livecd-tools so it installs all the required dependencies and then use livecd-iso-to-disk follow the instructions on : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html I doubt that the above would create an EFI boot USB, But I have not tried those methods. Only EFI USB's written from the RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso will boot directly in my Mac. I would be willing to send a 2 GB EFI USB to you to test If you like. Let me know where to send it. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ If this works, it is really good news! I would love to be able to show it at SCaLE 10X in Los Angeles on Jan 20-22. Should I put in a proposal for a presentation or is it not ready for the big time yet? Better still would someone from Sugar Labs like to do a presentation at SCaLE? I'm looking forward to hearing answers! Caryl Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:32:57 -0700 From: satel...@bendbroadband.com To: i...@lists.sugarlabs.org CC: test...@lists.laptop.org; soas@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: [SoaS] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB ) We now have a persistent EFI boot USB for Macs... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB works with f16 RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.RC4/Live/x86_64/Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso Use: livecd-iso-to-disk see first link for details. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB ( boots directly from USB )
We now have a persistent EFI boot USB for Macs... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB works with f16 RC4 x86-64 Soas.iso http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.RC4/Live/x86_64/Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso Use:livecd-iso-to-disk see first link for details. Tom Gilliard/satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaSv6 - Last stages
Boots:MacBook-Proi7 -EFI-Boot-USB hold option key on power up select -- EFI USB * Has Persistence *2 GB Firefly USB :formatted in f16 diskutility fat /dev/sdb fat /dev/sdb1 * (Built in f16 gnome3-shell 3.2.1 on Acer Aspire One N450) * terminal: Run yum install livecd-tools so it installs all the required dependencies and then use livecd-iso-to-disk --- [(user)@localhost Downloads]$ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 175 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-Coconut-SoaS.iso /dev/sdb Verifying image... /home/(user)/Downloads/Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-Coconut-SoaS.iso: 566e78411306dc76f8608a8958c0f8fa Fragment sums: 34bba2e2de25169fa69998bdffed8a3cebfe366f5e82264575b397bcb622 Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. WARNING: THIS WILL DESTROY ANY DATA ON /dev/sdb!!! Press Enter to continue or ctrl-c to abort wipefs: WARNING: /dev/sdb: appears to contain 'dos' partition table Waiting for devices to settle... mkdosfs 3.0.11 (24 Dec 2010) Copying live image to target device. squashfs.img 417943552 100%8.77MB/s0:00:45 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 417994645 bytes received 31 bytes 9186696.18 bytes/sec total size is 417943552 speedup is 1.00 osmin.img 8192 100%0.00kB/s0:00:00 (xfer#1, to-check=0/1) sent 8265 bytes received 31 bytes 16592.00 bytes/sec total size is 8192 speedup is 0.99 Updating boot config file Initializing persistent overlay file 300+0 records in 300+0 records out 314572800 bytes (315 MB) copied, 29.3517 s, 10.7 MB/s Initializing persistent /home 175+0 records in 175+0 records out 183500800 bytes (184 MB) copied, 20.3817 s, 9.0 MB/s Formatting unencrypted /home mke2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=1024 (log=0) Fragment size=1024 (log=0) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 44880 inodes, 179200 blocks 8960 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=1 Maximum filesystem blocks=67371008 22 block groups 8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group 2040 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 8193, 24577, 40961, 57345, 73729 Writing inode tables: done Creating journal (4096 blocks): done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done This filesystem will be automatically checked every 38 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override. tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) Setting maximal mount count to -1 Setting interval between checks to 0 seconds Installing boot loader Target device is now set up with a Live image! [user)@localhost Downloads]$ Tom Gilliard/satellit_ On 10/28/2011 01:35 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow! Is this for real? Does it have persistent storage too? Guess I'll have to find out how to do this. Hope I'll be able to pass it on to someone I am working with in Southern California who works at an Apple school. Define persistent. We've always had the option of persistent storage. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- using f16-TC1-Gnome3-shell and thunderbird ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaSv6 - Last stages
Unmounted: $ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb1 is not a block device SYNTAX livecd-iso-to-disk [--help] [--noverify] [--format] [--msdos] [--reset-mbr] [--efi] [--skipcopy] [--force] [--xo] [--xo-no-home] [--timeout time] [--totaltimeout time] [--extra-kernel-args args] [--multi] [--livedir dir] [--compress] [--skipcompress] [--swap-size-mb size] [--overlay-size-mb size] [--home-size-mb size] [--delete-home] [--crypted-home] [--unencrypted-home] source target device (Enter livecd-iso-to-disk --help on the command line for more information.) Mounted $ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 Verifying image... /home/(user)/Downloads/Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso: 541ec71a9f2438669763863b5abfff87 Fragment sums: b2678385c14b222d876d1562e7688ba775e45e1c43d533639aafa3217e9b Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. /dev/sdb1 is mounted, please unmount for safety $ It will not work in gnome3-shell Version 3.2.1 either mounted or unmounted..??? Tom Gilliard On 10/27/2011 08:13 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, We're in the final stages of SoaSv6. It would be good for people to test and see if I've missed any issues. I believe we're in pretty good shape for this release. In fact I think its going to be one of our better releases. We've had no major breakages due to upstream this cycle and Fedora is locking down for the final run to release so we're past the possibility of that (thankfully!). To create it run the following command. Note you need to correct the image name for the downloaded version, and also update the device name for your relevant usb key. sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-SoaS-Image-Name.iso /dev/sdz I'm interested in feedback on how it works on Intel based Mac's as the vast majority of Mac boot issues should be resolved with this release. We have a nice increase in the number of Activities shipping which should make it more interesting. I look forward to your feedback. Peter i386 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3459573 x96-64 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3459574 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- using f16-TC1-Gnome3-shell and thunderbird ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaSv6 - Last stages
Peter; That worked.(/dev/sdb) did both Fedora-16-TC-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso Only x86_64 USB had efi boot on My Macbook Pro i7 using Option key Booted to boot splash screen, but hung after pressing Entert. (Blue background and cursor in upper left corner) refit 14 boot CD only got back to the same screen message: wipefs: WARNING: /dev/sdb: appears to contain 'gpt' partition table during write of USB Tom Gilliard satellit_ On 10/27/2011 10:58 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: drop the 1. Should just be /dev/sdb On 27 Oct 2011 18:41, Thomas C Gilliardsatel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Unmounted: $ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb1 is not a block device SYNTAX livecd-iso-to-disk [--help] [--noverify] [--format] [--msdos] [--reset-mbr] [--efi] [--skipcopy] [--force] [--xo] [--xo-no-home] [--timeouttime] [--totaltimeouttime] [--extra-kernel-argsargs] [--multi] [--livedir dir] [--compress] [--skipcompress] [--swap-size-mb size] [--overlay-size-mbsize] [--home-size-mbsize] [--delete-home] [--crypted-home] [--unencrypted-home] source target device (Enter livecd-iso-to-disk --help on the command line for more information.) Mounted $ sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 Verifying image... /home/(user)/Downloads/Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso: 541ec71a9f2438669763863b5abfff87 Fragment sums: b2678385c14b222d876d1562e7688ba775e45e1c43d533639aafa3217e9b Fragment count: 20 Press [Esc] to abort check. Checking: 100.0% The media check is complete, the result is: PASS. It is OK to use this media. /dev/sdb1 is mounted, please unmount for safety $ It will not work in gnome3-shell Version 3.2.1 either mounted or unmounted..??? Tom Gilliard On 10/27/2011 08:13 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, We're in the final stages of SoaSv6. It would be good for people to test and see if I've missed any issues. I believe we're in pretty good shape for this release. In fact I think its going to be one of our better releases. We've had no major breakages due to upstream this cycle and Fedora is locking down for the final run to release so we're past the possibility of that (thankfully!). To create it run the following command. Note you need to correct the image name for the downloaded version, and also update the device name for your relevant usb key. sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi Fedora-SoaS-Image-Name.iso /dev/sdz I'm interested in feedback on how it works on Intel based Mac's as the vast majority of Mac boot issues should be resolved with this release. We have a nice increase in the number of Activities shipping which should make it more interesting. I look forward to your feedback. Peter i386 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3459573 x96-64 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3459574 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- using f16-TC1-Gnome3-shell and thunderbird ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas -- using f16-TC1-Gnome3-shell and thunderbird ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaSv6 - Last stages
Tried the same with soas-v5-Coconut x86-64 with f16 diskutility (reformat to fat): It boots on MacBook Pro i7 fine. (hold option key during boot than == to EFI USB and it works. A bootable USB for the MAC : ) 4 GB USB Sandisk Micro with U3 partition deleted. Tom Gilliard\satellit_ On 10/27/2011 12:08 PM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: On 10/27/2011 12:04 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter; That worked.(/dev/sdb) did both Fedora-16-TC-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Fedora-16-TC2-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso Only x86_64 USB had efi boot on My Macbook Pro i7 using Option key Booted to boot splash screen, but hung after pressing Entert. (Blue background and cursor in upper left corner) refit 14 boot CD only got back to the same screen message: wipefs: WARNING: /dev/sdb: appears to contain 'gpt' partition table during write of USB what happens if you press escape key with the blue background? Peter No response Tom Gilliard ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-16-TC1-i686-Live-SoaS.iso available now
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/16.TC1/Live/i686/Fedora-16-TC1-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Fedora 16 Final Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now! http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2011-October/000309.html Ongoing Testing :http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#F16-TC1-live_Soas Tom Gilliard satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announce: Soas_Coconut: tests, links, Soas_Coconuts.img plus an importable Virtual Appliance available.
Available now: 1-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Soas-v5-Coconut Tests http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_Coconuts.img use .img to dd write a 2 GB USB built with liveusb-creator in f16 with persistence file 2-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Sugar_on_a_Stick-V5-Coconut Virtualbox Virtual Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit_ ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v5 Coconut release
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Sugar on a Stick v5 is ready to go (finally). The website will be updated shortly. When it is all details will be here http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Congratulations Will the surf-115.xo on ASLO get a revision for use with sugar 0.93-94.x? Thanks again : ) Tom Gilliard Improvements over SoaSv4 include: - Sugar 0.92.4 - Fedora 15 - Network Manager 0.9 support (massive thanks to dsd!) - More Activities! - Many bugfixes and improvements - Improved HW support including better WiFi, notebook/netbook and other devices support Regressions: - 3G Modem support currently doesn't work. ISOs in the mean time can be downloaded from the following links: 32 bit http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3355572 64 bit http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3355573 Regards, Peter ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v5 Coconut release
Peter Robinson wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Sugar on a Stick v5 is ready to go (finally). The website will be updated shortly. When it is all details will be here http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ Peter; will a copy of the .ks file(s) be available? (for building remixes with livecd-tools) Thanks; Tom Gilliard Congratulations Will the surf-115.xo on ASLO get a revision for use with sugar 0.93-94.x? Its patched and working in F-16 with build sugar-surf-115-2.fc16 Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Target USB needs to be removed from sugar when using liveinst to write to a 2GB USB
Discovered today: In sugar (soas f16 0825 nightly) [1] the USB needs to be removed from sugar (frame icon on bottom) then liveinst can use custom to delete the vfat from the USB and used to create a new ext4 / partition to do install to(There is no warning in liveinst that the USB is mounted) Otherwise liveinst fails. This is a gotcha Tom Gilliard satellit_ [1]http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3301889name=Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Target USB needs to be removed from sugar when using liveinst to write to a 2GB USB
Here is the entire description of a successful full install of Soas-v6 to a 2 GB USB http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Install_to_2_GB_USB_HD: Tom Gilliard Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Discovered today: In sugar (soas f16 0825 nightly) [1] the USB needs to be removed from sugar (frame icon on bottom) then liveinst can use custom to delete the vfat from the USB and used to create a new ext4 / partition to do install to(There is no warning in liveinst that the USB is mounted) Otherwise liveinst fails. This is a gotcha Tom Gilliard satellit_ [1]http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3301889name=Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas : use liveinst, [Configure network] to Set up wireless AP on installed USB before installing
Link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas From Booted Live CD [1] Install to 8 GB USB HD: *seems to require reformat of USB HD* Otherwise get failure of Anaconda * Install gparted su yum install gparted *gparted* (format USB fat32) * Anaconda *liveinst* [Configure network] Set up wireless AP This is a great way to setup and use a wireless AP on the installed 8 GB USB (Use whole disk - not LVM) * Shutdown booted CD * Boot from USB 3.0.1-3-fc16 firstboot; user ; time (ntp); smolt (no profile); gdm login click to change color ==back chage name == == CP/About my computer Sugar on a Stick 6 Fedora release 16 (Rawhide) 0.92.4 * f1 network neighborhood sees Jabber * *Connected to Wireless AP set up in Anaconda* neat workaround for wireless Tom Gilliard satellit [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3301889name=Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas : use liveinst, [Configure network] to Set up wireless AP on installed USB before installing
Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas From Booted Live CD [1] Install to 8 GB USB HD: seems to require reformat of USB HD Otherwise get failure of Anaconda This is not a live USB but a real HD install. So it requires at least 2x as large a USB. It will install on 4 GB minimum using custom: /boot ext4 1000 /balance ext4 no swap but 8 GB allows normal HD use whole disk [non LVM] install. The same instructions would apply for a 250 or 500 GB USB external drive install. (the live image fs appears to be resized on Anaconda install to match the HD capacity) Tom Gilliard Why 8 GB? -walter Install gparted su yum install gparted gparted (format USB fat32) Anaconda liveinst [Configure network] Set up wireless AP This is a great way to setup and use a wireless AP on the installed 8 GB USB (Use whole disk - not LVM) Shutdown booted CD Boot from USB 3.0.1-3-fc16 firstboot; user ; time (ntp); smolt (no profile); gdm login click to change color ==back chage name == == CP/About my computer Sugar on a Stick 6 Fedora release 16 (Rawhide) 0.92.4 f1 network neighborhood sees Jabber Connected to Wireless AP set up in Anaconda neat workaround for wireless Tom Gilliard satellit [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3301889name=Fedora-16-Nightly-20110825.14-i686-Live-soas.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-16-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop - install problems
Fedora-16-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop [A]- install problems: I could not use the install to HD Icon in gnome3-shell to install to the usb HD [B] These all failed for me: 1-)use default settings 2-) use whole disk (no LVM) 3-) custom with / ext 4 1000 /23 and swap This finally worked: 4-) format to ext4 in palimpset (on CD) then liveinst from root terminal; use whole disk (non LVM) grub 1.99~rc1 firstboot time user no smolt profile (empty) 3.0.0.-1 firstboot; time; user; smolt no profile (empty) gdm login ok dm logs in gnome3-shell 3.1.4 correctly sees wireless and wired networking =install sugar= add/remove programs: sugar select all but read add education/sugar to favorites yum install alacarte alacarte/education/sugar (properties add -f to end of command) for full screen display exit alt f2 (r) reset gnome3-shell *sugar (sugar-emulator) in gnome3-shell sugar starts: == cp/About my Computer == Fedora release 16 (Verne) sugar 0.93.2 cp/network does not start F1 network neighborhood works on jabber. (Note: Many activities seem to be messed up by new toobars) I did not test all... only a few start ==Activities== Browse fails to start. ImportError: No Module named gnome Surf fails to start. import error: cannot import name AddressEntry *sugar from gdm login ==Activities== Browse fails to start. ImportError: No Module named gnome Surf fails to start. import error: cannot import name AddressEntry Turtle Art fails to start (falls back to f3) ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 with external usb hp 550 DVD/CD writer [A] http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/releases/test/16-Alpha/Live/i686/Fedora-16-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop.iso [B] 250 GB hitachi external usb HD ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Boot from usb Soas5 on virtualbox win7
HARUN KARADOGAN wrote: Hi, I am trying to boot from usb on virtualbox win7. I followed the instructions http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-a-usb-flash-drive-in-virtualbox/; 1-)What version of linux are you trying to boot? Soas-v5 is not yet released. If you are using one of the Soasv5 nightly -composes it may not be working. You should use an older version of Soas (Soas-v3 or V4) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#SoaS_v4_Mango_Lassi http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso 2a-) Why not just import a Prebuilt Virtual Machine into virtualbox? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files which lists a number of Versions of Sugar. 2b:) OR Try using this CD to install to a VirtualBox Hard Disk : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686 ( http://devel.trisquel.info/sugar/trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686.iso ) This will be easier and much faster than running from a USB stick inside a VirtualBox appliance. Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC PS : look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit for more information. good luck : ) It's booting Fedora 15 text is appearing on the screen. But sugar environment is not starting. Virtualbox 4.0 Soas5 Thank you, ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] f15 Soas Remix with updates testing 07/27/2011
f15 Soas Remix with updates testing 07/27/2011 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#f15-soas-Remix-727 Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] jabber is causing dbus errors in sugar 0.92.1 here is way to stop jabber connection and fix application did no start on first try.
Booted from SoaSv5-20110612-i686 [1] Sugar on a Stick 5 (Coconut) Fedora release 15 (Lovelock) 0.92.1 Jabber has 200 avitars.long delay getting the display (booted from Cd) Most applications require starting 2 times to run. Unfortunately network in CP will not start so I cannot erase the jabber entry Jabber is causing dbus errors in sugar 0.92.1. Here is way to stop jabber connection: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Do_not_connect_Cat-5_wired_network_before_doing_the_following I saw this first in todays testing of XO-1.5: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Fedora#testing_os871_XO-1.5 These observations suggest building the Soasv5 release with empty jabber field in Network setting. Then the response is quick and the empty jabber setting can be fixed when sugar 0.92.x is fixed. Tom Gilliard satellit [1]http://fedora.roving-it.com/SoaSv5-20110612-i686.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] Sugar minimum set
moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: On Wed, June 29, 2011 2:29 pm, Valerie Taylor wrote: Is there a minimum set of Sugar teacher/tutor training, hardware and software that could be implemented by a community supported remedial program that works with kids outside regular elementary school? Is this something that could be considered and/or suggested? That is a whole set of questions bundled up into one. XOs and their Sugar distributions are the minimum standard set. The maximum is whatever is currently on Activities.sugarlabs.org. You can buy individual used XOs on eBay for about $150 each. If some NGO would be willing to buy 10,000 units and make them available in smaller quantities to other NGOs, we could talk about all sorts of programs. Prices would likely be in the $200-$250 range. The initial investment would be about $2 million up front, with delivery date to be determined later. Nobody has so far been willing to operate on those terms. A local program provides small group time as their primary learning activities and has some computers that they use already. Most of the software is the usual proprietary kids educational products. Their regular program would lend itself to including basic Sugar Labs Activities. Sugar on a Stick Besides to the fedora Soas Project, You should look at this polished SugarLabs (Ubuntu Based) Project : It uses alsroot's sugar sweets 0.88.1, and shares some features with the XO-1 OLPC Dextrose software * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686 ---More Information: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel ---Importable Virtualbox appliance: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Trisquel-Gnome-sugar_4.5_Release_Candidate ---dd write to 2 GB USB: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img ---Testing: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Trisquel#trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686 FYI Sugar-desktop is available in all of these Linux Distributions http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions Sugar-Activity Information is available from these links: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sck/activities Tom Gilliard satellit Are there guidelines for when Sugar Labs Activities can be beneficial even if it isn't possible or practical to provide the all-inclusive OLPC environment? Always. ^_^ In this case, the computers could probably loaded with Linux and Sugar, and would be stand-alone (without a classroom or school server). I don't know if the machines are networked so that groups and neighborhoods could be available. Any of the above. Is anyone doing this now? Does Sugar Labs encourage this? What is a minimum setup that could be considered? What are the gotcha's for doing something like this? Various NGOs have various programs around XOs and Sugar in other forms. Sugar Labs encourages this. Sugar on a Stick There are some technical issues. SoaS is not easy enough to create. It does not work on every computer. Therefore preplanning and testing is necessary. Mostly, the issue is that prospective teachers do not have enough guidance on how to use Sugar effectively. That is one of the targets for the Replacing Textbooks program. Of course, you can buy pre-recorded SoaS USB units, although I don't know which versions of SoaS are available. To replace textbooks, is there a strategy for moving to wider use of Sugar as part of the process? Of course. The idea is to integrate Sugar into every topic where it is practical in every subject. That is the equivalent of more than 100 textbooks, with more than 10,000 topics. Thanks ..Valerie ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] servers 404ing SOAS
soas@lists.sugarlabs.org 05/27/2011 Peter Robinson: We've delayed the release slightly in co-operation with Fedora release engineering to get a patch to support networking. I'm expecting the release to happen next Tuesday at this point. I'll be working on it over the weekend to clean up some lose ends. As it turns out there was also an issue that caused persistent overlays to fail on the live images so its good to get some of the zero day fixes in as well. you might want to also look at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Soas-v5-Coconut_Beta : peter's test version plus http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast (Trisquel 4.5.1-sugar is also a great distro) and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img a nice dd image file that works on a 2GB USB Tom Gilliard satellit Note sugar is available on all of these distros ATM http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Community_Distributions Bin Thirteen wrote: HI Thomas! Thank you for keeping me in the loop over this problem that I notified several days ago. I only raise the query of download availability (or explanatory page content) -v- loss of interest in the project as a whole. Even though a new release is due, in this busy world if the old version isn't dowloadable to play with, then people move on and forget about it however good it may be. I came back day after day disappointedly waiting for a remedy. Unless there is a very good reason, surely the old version should always be available? I am of course very grateful for the support that has filtered through and the vast work of the 'core(s)' on these project groups. Watching with interest. Roger. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: DancesWithCars wrote: going to sugarlabs.org to download to fedora to find a spin of sugar, http://spins.fedoraproject.**org/soas/#downloadshttp://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/#downloads gives 404 errors... poking around the spins archives didn't find a sugar spin either... http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/**Sugar_Creation_Kit#SoaS_v4_**Mango_Lassihttp://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#SoaS_v4_Mango_Lassi soas-v1 strawberry to soas-v5-coconut beta are linked from here Tom Gilliard satellit __**_ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/**listinfo/soashttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-16-Nightly-20110623.09-i686-Live-soas testing
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-16-Nightly-20110623.09-i686-Live-soas selinux=0 and setenforce=0 on boot required to boot liveinst fails Installs to USB correctly works thru firstboot; smolt. no gdm login; just blue bird with tree f15 screen background Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Re: Tux Paint Kids Drawing Contest | OLPC | SugarLabs
Look at:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast
I just used a booted 2GB USB [1] of Trisquel 4.5.1-sugar to download Tux
Paint 5.0 from ASLO.
It works fine. Tux Paint 5.0 took about 2 minutes to download and one
has to be patient as it downloads.
I monitored the download progress in the sugar journal. As the ASLO
countdown timer seems to run to zero too rapidly.
I suggest either method[1] or [2].
(Reproduction of the dd img file is fast once the compressed .img is
downloaded however) [1]
dd write
#(root terminal)
dd if=Trisquel_4-5-1a-sugar.img of=/dev/sd(x) bs=4k [1]
489472+0 records in
489472+0 records out
2004877312 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 296.656 s, 6.8 MB/s
:[1] (x)=your device name. type mount in terminal to see it
::'''CAUTION Do not use /dev/sda'''
* Disregard this message if it appears:
:''' dd: writing to /dev/sd(x)': No space left on device'''
: The .img file is actually smaller than 2.0 GB (1.9GB) so it will work.
: the critical parts of the USB image are written prior to this
message appearing
:::(THE USB was resized in gparted. before writing to an .img)
:some 2Gb USB's are smaller than the 2 GB Lexar I used.
* tested on
:2 Gb Lexar Firefly USB
:2 GB Verbatum Sliding cover USB (smaller)
:2 GB Sandisk Cruzer micro ('''after removing U3 hidden partition''')
(smaller)
::How to remove u3
partition:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Cautions_with_u3_USB_sticks
Tom Gilliard.
satellit
references
[1]
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img
This is a ext3 formatted normal install to USB
[2]
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#Create_a_USB_thumb_drive
This is a live image plus a persistence file.
I have not tried Downloading Tux Paint 5.0 to this form of USB, ATM but
will do so and report as a follow up.
Walter Bender wrote:
Do we have a decent Triquel image these days for such purposes? Can I
just order sticks off the website?
-walter
-- Forwarded message --
From: WorldLabel.com worldla...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Tux Paint Kids Drawing Contest | OLPC | SugarLabs
To: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
Hi Walter
Hope all is great!
Any way to get some suger-on-sticks. atleast 5 to 10 for a contest.
Thank you
Russ
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:54 AM, WorldLabel.com worldla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Walter
Please dont forget me. Got 3 OLPC for contest, just got to get tux4kids loaded
and now trying to get the Sugar-on-sticks -:)
Best
Russ
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:16 PM, worldla...@gmail.com wrote:
I can send funds for 50 to 60. If you need a few more, let me know. 10 from
these will be for the contest with Tuxpaint loaded but preferably tux4kids.
How to send the funds?
Let me investigate.
-walter
Thks
R
On Nov 1, 2010 5:49pm, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, WorldLabel.com worldla...@gmail.com
wrote:
We made 100 for the original launch and gave them all away. I'd love to
make more, actually.
How much are they? For the contest we need 10 to 15. I will try and come
up
with funds for more that than the 15 so you can have some around.
I'd have to look into pricing again. As I recall, it was on the order
of $10 each last time.
-walter
Best
Russ
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WorldLabel.com worldla...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Walter
We are have a drawing contest for kids using Tuxpaint.org sponsored
by
my
company Worldlabel.com The top prizes will be a OLPC laptop. We also
really
want to give out USB with Suger on a stick. Depending on how we can
get
then
and how much they cost, upto 20 of them. The contest should be fun.
I was hoping you could help me find a source for the Sugar on a Stick
with
Sugarlab logo on them? It would be highly appreciated.
I don't think they are available. We made 100 for the original launch
and gave them all away. I'd love to make more, actually.
We'll have to make sure that Tuxpaint is on the stick -- the
[SoaS] Fedora-16-Nightly-20110619.17-i686-Live-soas; testing
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Re: [SoaS] new SoaSv5 test image - Last change to test and fix issues
Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Testing 06/14/2011 -Trying to create a 2 GB .img file for dd writing to 2 GB USB's- SoaSv5-20110612-i686.iso - fresh download http://fedora.roving-it.com/SoaSv5-20110612-i686.iso *boot CD ACER ASPIRE ONE N450-(external usb DVD/CD writer) :insert new USB (Lexar firefly 4GB) *sugar terminal su password (not needed) :liveinst custom / ext4 fill all of usb no swap copyright on f15 anacona install screen is 2003-2010 sucessful *start f15 gnome3-shell from 500GB external HD install insert new USB *gparted: : check device name terminal: # dd if=/dev/sdb of=SoaSv5-20110612 bs=4k *gparted: resize partition to 2GiB *Boot resized USB nm-connection-editor wireless add (wep ascii password) connects to AP as finish adding ssid surf and IRC connect on wireless NO Jabber connection Insert wired network My Settings/About Me/color change; restart f1 Neighborhood fills with 200 Avitars unplug eth0 My Settings/About Me/color change; restart f1 Neighborhood is empty *note jabber only seems to work on a wired eth0 connection :wireless does not see jabber : did not start message not present as often on starting applications :restart works w/o Plymouth: (nomodeset progress bars) This is the same for a booted CD:SoaSv5-20110612 *It takes much longer to get journal to display on f3 when the Ethernet cable is plugged in. *This seems to be related to the huge sets of data being downloaded from the jabber. (over 200 avitars fill the screen.) This only occurs on sugar 0.92.1. Sugar 0.88.1 displays 10-20 avitars at same time. There must be a different method of broadcast from the jabber, being used for 0.92.1 *wireless AP (connected with nm-connection-editor) works for surf and IRC but Jabber remains empty when only wireless connection is used. Correction: after 5 minutes using surf on wireless AP the jabber did show the 200 avitars f1 field goes grey and after about 10 sec they appear Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I was hoping to have this out over a week ago but I had a slight diversion via hospital which delayed proceedings. So below are links to a new pair (32 and 64 bit) of images for your testing pleasure. http://fedora.roving-it.com/SoaSv5-20110612-x86_64.iso http://fedora.roving-it.com/SoaSv5-20110612-i686.iso The network issue is still there, its partially working from the work that I did with some assistance from John Dulaney. I've included another utility to enable initial configuration of a wireless access point and from there it will auto connect and should mostly work. There's issues with the main network view and in the control panel but it seems no one else cares enough to assist me in getting it fixed. To configure an AP run the command nm-connection-editor from a terminal as the standard user (not root). I don't believe there are any other major blockers for this release. If you believe there to be any issues speak up now and provide fixes for it. NOTE: This is the last chance to test and get things fixed. Please provide concise details to any issues in reply to this mail. Cheers, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announcing: trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686: dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img (an alternative sweets sugar 0.88.1 on a USB stick.)
Announcing an experimental 1.9Gb .img file for dd writing to a 2 GB USB
Please Test
Image of a Full Install to a 2 GB USB (ext4 file structure)
Not a Live USB
Persistent
sweets sugar 0.88.1
Easy Duplication- about 10 minutes to write from the image.
.img file is reusable for mass duplications; only one DL required
* tested on
2 Gb Lexar Firefly USB
2 GB Verbatum Sliding cover USB
2 GB Sandisk Cruzer micro ('''after removing U3 hidden partition''')
Ready to start by registering new user's name and color
Can be also used to install to HD where no CD/DVD is available.
IMG:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/Trisquel_4-5-1a-sugar.img
Details and how to dd write:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#dd_writable_2GB_USB_.img
ISO
http://devel.trisquel.info/sugar/trisquel-sugar_4.5.1_i686.iso
Tom Gilliard
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[SoaS] Preliminary Tests of Fedora-16-Nightly-20110610.09-i686-Live-soas.iso
==Fedora-16-Nightly-20110610.09-i686-Live-soas.iso== *SUMMARY: ;sugar 0.92.2 NEW Version of sugar up from 0.92.1 ;selinux=0 and setenforce=0 on safe boot required to boot ;even though Nic Is named eml in f16; NM waits for eth0 which does not exist ;Tests :Boot from CD :Note only boots this way: safe graphics boot TAB (with quiet removed) and selinux=0 and setenforce=0 on boot line it pauses in boot on: Started: Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Started Network Manager atl1c : eml Nic Link is Up100Mbps Half duplex atl1c : wlan0 Link is not up sed: can't read /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt: No such file or directory *(5 minute wait). :Starting Sandbox: ::then resumes: *gdm Live System User with blue gnome background with tree with mechanical and live bird Generic release 16 (Generic) Live System User other Log in as liveuser Click to change color = Done Choose password for new keyring add password 2x Choose password for new keyring OK; An Application wants access to the keyring 'xxx' but it is locked (7 repeats; Cancel as cannot write to keychain) *f1 Network Neighborhood has +- 200 avitars About My Computer Software Sugar on a Stick 5 (Coconut) Fedora release 15 (Lovelock) 0.92.2 *Software Update Speak 25-26 Write 72-74 Turtle Art 107-109 record 91-92 *Software List (;=not a favorite) etoys 116 pippy 40 ;IRC 9 calculate 37 memorize 36 ;physics 8 ;log 24 ;terminal chat ;abacus 19 ;surf 115 Speak 25-26 Write 72-74 Turtle Art 107-109 record 91-92 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] F15 install fails on Compaq Presario
test Digest, Vol 87, Issue 76 Message: 9 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 06:56:14 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to Subject: Re: F15 install fails on Compaq Presario To: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com Cc: Fedora Test List fedora-test-l...@redhat.com Message-ID: 20110518115614.ga30...@wolff.to Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 04:41:40 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com wrote: DVD loading complains about MSI quirk and disables MSI subordinate. It then locks up trying to load rootfs image This is on a 512 mb Compaq Presario V-5000 with Athlon 64 which dual boots XP and an older version of Fedora. I am installing xubuntu 64 11.04 on this machine as I type this. I don't think 512 MB is going to work for the installer for F15. I am not sure if preupgrade requirements are less. There is a plan to cut the memory needed to install down for F16, but it was too late to safely try to get it in F15. Seen on IRC: Anaconda Installer Requires at least 951 M; once Gnome3 is installed 475 M is required I use 1024 M for sucessful RC3 Desktop or Soas installs ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] EToys-116 sugar-log output errors on soas RC3 liveinst to HD
Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 15.05.2011, at 19:25, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 15.05.2011, at 18:39, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Here is the Etoys 116 sugar-log output for soas rc3 installed to VirtualBox 4.0.4 OSX: Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC How do I liveinst from the SoaS iso? Booted CD (or .iso in VirtualBox): sugar-terminal (root) liveinst starts anaconda and installs to HD/USB/VirtualBox etc Tom Gilliard satellit I now tried using the SoaS F15 RC3: * booting in VirtualBox 4.0.6 takes several minutes, compared to a few seconds booting SoaS F14. It has a bug where it hangs up for about 3-5 minutes then continues * it does not run Sugar on its own but presents the regular GDM login screen * it asks the keyring password question * liveinst complains that it needs 640 MB of RAM but my VM had only 512. Maybe that explains the slow boot too? If so, it does not bode well for running on XO-1 the new .img file is happiest at 1024 memory now...: ( It is larger and needs more memory to decompress I think. Maybe a swap file on a SD card could be used for the XO-1? I usually install to a larger SD card with liveinst so it has a real file structure vs live fs * alt-tab does not switch between activities * presence-service fails. Sometimes it you go to my settings/about me/ and change password and then use the suggested restart the f1 neighborhood sees other avatars on the jabber server (another bug) The buddy-icon.jpg used to be created in jarabe/intro/window.py but that code was removed: http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar/mainline/commit/c38e03f641e2f409464340bf67826809cf2f94dc maybe a quick fix would be to revert that commit? - Bert - Bert I have prepared a soas-v5-RC3-live Virtual Machine in VirtualBox 4.0.4 with fixes for Etoys and will upload it to http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ later today. I am doing final testing now..It will import as a 652MB .vmdk and 166kb .ovf file. It does see the jabber. Thanks; this seems to get Etoys running: touch ~/.sugar/default/buddy-icon.jpg http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Etoys-116_Soasv5_RC3_Error_Fix === SqueakDebug.log START == DBusError: Process /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service exited with status 1 This error is secondary, the real one should be in presence-service.log. Interestingly, directly running Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS.iso from 3/24 (not sure how to get a better version id) in VirtualBox, Etoys starts fine. Presence-service does find the buddy-icon. - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Sugar_on_a_Stick_v5_Coconut RC3 VirtualBox Appliance available for Downloading and testing
Link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v5_Coconut Enjoy Tom Gilliard satellit Tested download/import just now works fine on my MacBook Pro i7 Please Help test. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Secondary Menus
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, It seems in certain circumstances the second menus do work on Fedora 15 (thanks Thomas for testing). I suspect there was a new dep added to sugar for this feature that we're not actually depending on and its hence only getting installed in certain situations. Can anyone who worked on this verify what new deps are required for this feature? It would be nice to get this fixed for F15, we only have a couple of days to get the fix in. Any further details? Where are the results from Thomas posted? Basically the live image doesn't work. If its installed another way (from complete DVD or netinst or similar) it does. That sounds to me there's a new dep (likely a python one) that we're not explicitly pulling in for F-15 SoaS image that gets pulls in by something else in a standard install. Is there a new python module that we used to implement the secondary toolbars? Can someone look at the code and give me a list of modules used for the secondary menus? There's more details in a recent response from me to the SoaS list. I'm going to try and recreate it but I'm travelling this weekend and I might not get the chance so any info would help here. Regards, Peter Does the point that the soas nightly compose come from branched, and netinstall does not, make a difference? Not sure what you mean. netinst should have the option to use F-15 which is branched and the TC1 images for that should default to that. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ says: These composes are built against the Fedora 15 development branch. (The updates-testing repository is not enabled). netinstall and TC1 DVD are using f15 and f15-updates testing Tom Gilliard satellit Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] rpm -qa netinstall sugar-desktop to HD (submenus work)
f15 TC1 Netinstall Booted CD to USB external HD done today (05/10/2011 Uses f15 i386 and f15 i386 updates testing repos Note Sub Menus on applications work here Tom Gilliard satellit libuser-python-0.57.2-1.fc15.i686 ql2100-firmware-1.19.38-4.fc15.noarch gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.32-2.fc15.i686 evince-3.0.0-1.fc15.i686 libdaemon-0.14-2.fc15.i686 redland-1.0.12-3.fc15.i686 atmel-firmware-1.3-8.fc15.noarch yelp-libs-3.0.2-3.fc15.i686 gtk3-immodule-xim-3.0.9-1.fc15.i686 hyphen-2.7-1.fc15.i686 python-smbc-1.0.10-4.fc15.i686 ipw2100-firmware-1.3-12.fc15.noarch webkitgtk-1.4.0-1.fc15.i686 man-db-2.5.9-4.fc15.i686 ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase-1.3.99.20110217-2.fc15.noarch rpm-python-4.9.0-6.fc15.i686 redhat-menus-12.0.2-3.fc15.noarch libbonoboui-2.24.5-1.fc15.i686 biosdevname-0.3.8-1.fc15.i686 link-grammar-4.6.7-3.fc14.i686 report-0.20-2.fc15.i686 lyx-fonts-2.0.0-1.fc15.noarch polkit-gnome-0.101-1.fc15.i686 nc-1.100-2.fc15.i686 tmpwatch-2.10.2-1.fc15.i686 deltarpm-3.6-0.6.20110223git.fc15.i686 khmeros-base-fonts-5.0-11.fc15.noarch telepathy-gabble-0.12.0-1.fc15.i686 nfs-utils-1.2.3-11.fc15.i686 gstreamer-0.10.32-4.fc15.i686 fprintd-0.4.1-1.fc15.i686 lklug-fonts-0.6-5.20090803cvs.fc15.noarch setroubleshoot-server-3.0.31-1.fc15.i686 prelink-0.4.5-1.fc15.i686 libdmx-1.1.1-2.fc15.i686 alsa-utils-1.0.24.1-3.fc15.i686 smc-meera-fonts-4.4-5.fc15.noarch libgnomekbd-3.0.0-3.fc15.i686 wget-1.12-3.fc15.i686 rsync-3.0.8-1.fc15.i686 libsysfs-2.1.0-9.fc15.i686 libcom_err-1.41.14-2.fc15.i686 gnome-python2-gnome-2.28.1-4.fc15.i686 nss_db-2.2.3-0.4.pre1.fc15.i686 grubby-7.0.16-3.fc15.i686 vim-common-7.3.138-1.fc15.i686 nss-util-3.12.9-2.fc15.i686 hpijs-3.11.3a-1.fc15.i686 attr-2.4.44-7.fc15.i686 ots-libs-0.5.0-4.fc15.i686 lcms2-2.1-2.fc15.i686 tcp_wrappers-libs-7.6-60.fc15.i686 java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-35.fc15.i686 talk-0.17-35.fc15.i686 exempi-2.1.1-2.fc15.i686 csound-5.13.0-1.fc15.i686 libselinux-2.0.99-4.fc15.i686 zenity-3.0.0-1.fc15.i686 setserial-2.17-27.fc15.i686 mtools-4.0.16-1.fc15.i686 linux-atm-libs-2.5.1-3.fc15.i686 libgnome-keyring-3.0.1-1.fc15.i686 hippo-canvas-python-0.3.0-8.fc15.i686 mpage-2.5.6-9.fc15.i686 libffado-2.1.0-0.3.20110426.svn1983.fc15.i686 mcpp-2.7.2-5.fc15.i686 telepathy-glib-0.14.5-1.fc15.i686 GConf2-gtk-2.32.3-1.fc15.i686 taglib-1.7-1.fc15.i686 device-mapper-multipath-libs-0.4.9-15.fc15.i686 libtalloc-2.0.5-8.fc15.i686 evolution-3.0.1-1.fc15.i686 coreutils-8.10-2.fc15.i686 libdrm-2.4.25-1.fc15.i686 libcap-2.17-2.fc15.i686 im-chooser-gnome3-1.4.2-1.fc15.i686 openssl-1.0.0d-1.fc15.i686 system-setup-keyboard-0.8.6-5.fc15.i686 libxcb-1.7-2.fc15.i686 aiksaurus-gtk-1.2.1-22.fc15.i686 ibus-libs-1.3.99.20110408-3.fc15.i686 sane-backends-libs-1.0.22-1.fc15.i686 libXtst-1.2.0-2.fc15.i686 gutenprint-5.2.6-3.fc15.i686 system-config-firewall-base-1.2.29-3.fc15.noarch kpartx-0.4.9-15.fc15.i686 libXxf86vm-1.1.1-2.fc15.i686 plymouth-plugin-two-step-0.8.4-0.20110427.1.fc15.i686 gnome-icon-theme-legacy-3.0.0-2.fc15.noarch hplip-libs-3.11.3a-1.fc15.i686 libraw1394-2.0.7-1.fc15.i686 libcdaudio-0.99.12p2-14.fc15.i686 jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7-2.fc15.i686 openssh-clients-5.6p1-31.fc15.1.i686 perl-threads-1.82-2.fc15.i686 telepathy-haze-0.4.0-3.fc15.i686 libwmf-0.2.8.4-30.fc15.i686 xorg-x11-drv-voodoo-1.2.4-5.fc15.i686 gnutls-2.10.5-1.fc15.i686 sugar-write-72-3.fc15.noarch python-ethtool-0.7-2.fc15.i686 xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.6.0-3.fc15.i686 iptables-1.4.10-2.fc15.i686 sugar-finance-3-4.fc15.noarch rpcbind-0.2.0-10.fc15.i686 xorg-x11-drv-trident-1.3.4-5.fc15.i686 file-libs-5.05-3.fc15.i686 sugar-chat-70-1.fc15.noarch system-config-printer-libs-1.3.2-2.fc15.i686 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.3.0-7.fc15.i686 libiec61883-1.2.0-6.fc15.i686 gimp-data-extras-2.0.2-4.fc15.noarch python-tempita-0.4-7.fc15.noarch xorg-x11-drv-mga-1.4.13-6.fc15.i686 libcroco-0.6.2-6.fc15.i686 system-config-users-docs-1.0.9-2.fc15.noarch gnome-icon-theme-extras-3.0.0-2.fc15.noarch libsigc++20-2.2.9-1.fc15.i686 ca-certificates-2011.70-2.fc15.noarch python-iwlib-0.1-6.fc15.i686 system-config-printer-udev-1.3.2-2.fc15.i686 libwmf-lite-0.2.8.4-30.fc15.i686 control-center-filesystem-3.0.1.1-6.fc15.i686 ConsoleKit-x11-0.4.5-1.fc15.i686 pcsc-lite-libs-1.7.2-1.fc15.i686 mozilla-filesystem-1.9-6.fc15.i686 espeak-1.43-3.fc15.i686 wv-1.2.9-2.fc15.i686 tzdata-2011d-3.fc15.noarch rarian-compat-0.8.1-6.fc15.i686 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.22-5.fc15.i686 iso-codes-3.25.1-1.fc15.noarch yum-metadata-parser-1.1.4-4.fc15.i686 libutempter-1.1.5-5.fc15.i686 khmeros-fonts-common-5.0-11.fc15.noarch python-mako-0.3.6-2.fc15.noarch libtevent-0.9.10-4.fc15.i686 fedora-release-rawhide-15-0.7.noarch python-lxml-2.3-1.fc15.i686 libselinux-utils-2.0.99-4.fc15.i686 autocorr-en-3.3.2.2-7.fc15.noarch fipscheck-lib-1.3.0-2.fc15.i686 nss-softokn-3.12.9-7.fc15.i686 ncurses-base-5.8-2.20110319.fc15.i686 libgphoto2-2.4.10.1-1.fc15.i686 aspell-0.60.6-14.fc15.i686 adwaita-gtk2-theme-3.0.1-1.fc15.i686 nss-sysinit-3.12.9-15.fc15.i686
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Secondary Menus
On 5/7/11 8:30 AM, Walter Bender wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, It seems in certain circumstances the second menus do work on Fedora 15 (thanks Thomas for testing). I suspect there was a new dep added to sugar for this feature that we're not actually depending on and its hence only getting installed in certain situations. Can anyone who worked on this verify what new deps are required for this feature? It would be nice to get this fixed for F15, we only have a couple of days to get the fix in. Any further details? Where are the results from Thomas posted? Basically the live image doesn't work. If its installed another way (from complete DVD or netinst or similar) it does. That sounds to me there's a new dep (likely a python one) that we're not explicitly pulling in for F-15 SoaS image that gets pulls in by something else in a standard install. Is there a new python module that we used to implement the secondary toolbars? Can someone look at the code and give me a list of modules used for the secondary menus? There's more details in a recent response from me to the SoaS list. I'm going to try and recreate it but I'm travelling this weekend and I might not get the chance so any info would help here. Regards, Peter Does the point that the soas nightly compose come from branched, and netinstall does not, make a difference? Tom Gilliard (on the road) Thanks Peter. I will look into what dependencies are pulled in for the secondary menus, but it not immediate obvious that they are using anything special. (My uninformed theory is still that we are overriding a library name.) regards. -walter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Getting Sugar ready for release
Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 16:09 -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: See my report on using TC1 Netinstall to install sugar-desktop with gnome deselected: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15.TC1-i386-netinst.iso I also detail which activities are installed and updates as of today 05/05/2011 This is neat, We never could do this before (Gnome was a requirement previously) Thanks for this great improvement :) I just filed a list of sugar-desktop related bugs to the tracking bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702481 I am going to be off-line from 7AM PST Saturday through Monday and may not have time to file corresponding bugzilla bugs for the sugarlabs.bugs listed. I hope this does not preclude getting in a fix in for these issues. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellt on #sugar IRC freenode Great, thanks! What would be really awesome is if you could file bugs for the major problems you hit in testing, and mark them as blocking F15Blocker-sugar . ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Testing of TC1 Netinstall of sugar-desktop only (Gnome-desktop deselected)
Testing of TC1 Netinstall of sugar-desktop only (Gnome-desktop deselected) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15.TC1-i386-netinst.iso Includes Testing of installed applications in f15 sugar-desktop and updates Note; 1-)The missing submenus problem is fixed on installed sugar applications. 2-)Presence service does not start until restart from CP/about me color change/ restart/gdm login 3-)Presence service still drops central users: Avatar in 1-2 minutes It is looking better all the time! Thomas Gilliard satellit on #sugar IRC freenode ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] TEST: Fedora-15-Nightly-20110428.20-i686-Live-soas.iso
===Fedora-15-Nightly-20110428.20-i686-Live-soas.iso=== *Reports: :http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15-Nightly-20110428.20-i686-Live-soas.iso *Link: :http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3034844name=Fedora-15-Nightly-20110428.20-i686-Live-soas.iso ;TEST in VirtualBox 4.0.4 OSX :Name;Color;== *NO JABBER CONNECTION just central avitar :cp/about me/color change/restart/gdm login Live System User (no password) ::greyed screen eventually gets just central avitar which disappears after about 1 minute *Activities # etoys 116 error after startup write 72clip, bullet indent and table no submenus terminal 31 memorize 36 calculate 35 no submenus physics 8 record 66 no Photo no Video no sound (MacBook Pro i7) speak 20 voice ok 2 right submenus bad turtle art 107 no submenus irc 9 works #sugar #sugar-es pippy 40 '''physics: error cannot import name physics''' chat 70 not visible on F1 log 24 abacus 19 no submenus # browse 120 (did not start) * Terminal:# yum install sugar-surf (115-1.fc15) updates-testing ::5 packages surf-115 works * Cp/Software Update speak 20-24 voice ok 2 right submenus bad record 66-89 no Photo no Video no sound (MacBook Pro i7) calculate 35-36 no submenus listed as Calculadora on f3 listing Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-15-Nightly-20110420.17-i686-Live-soas.iso testing results
link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15-Nightly-20110420.17-i686-Live-soas.iso also visit this page for older tests tested with live cd on external usb dvd/CD -ACER ASPIRE ONE N450 10 netbook ===Fedora-15-Nightly-20110420.17-i686-Live-soas.iso=== *http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/current.html :Boots to NAME___;Color == *Does not connect to Wireless AP in f1 neighborhood :no connect dialog to enter AP Key ;Wired connection only connects to jabber after Control Panel about me color change and restart. ::sees 3 Wireless AP and 3 ad-hoc network points *Central Avitar disappears then chat icon missing on f1 *Restart ejects CD (it us usually goes back to login gdm screen like Control Panel restart does.) *Activities (all selected as favorites) # '''etoys 116''' error after startup '''write 72'''clip, bullet indent and table no submenus '''terminal 116''' '''memorize 36''' '''calculate 35''' no submenus '''physics 8''' '''record 66''' Photo Video OK no sound '''speak 20''' voice ok 2 right submenus bad # '''turtle art 105'''(did not start) see update below '''irc 9''' works but no channel tabs; have to /join '''pippy 40''' '''chat 70''' joined by another user not visible on F1 Dbus Exception: org.freedesktop.Telepathy, error invalid handle '''log 24''' '''abacus 19''' submenus OK # '''browse 120''' (did not start) *Software Update turtle art 105-107 Works no submenus speak 20-24 voice ok 2 right submenus bad record 66-89 very faint sounds calculate 35-36 no submenus Thanks. it is nice to have a working SoaS again. Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS fixes this week!!
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Thomas, Do you have a link to download of Surf. I can't find it in ASLO. Here is where I stashed it: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Surf-115.xo http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Browse-115w.xo http://git.sugarlabs.org/surf Tom Gilliard satellit Peter On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Preliminary testing: Acer and MacBook + activities http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#SoaSv5-20110415-i686 Looks Good : ) Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Fans! So we've had a lot of movement and fixes submitted this week! Actually. I've fixed a few things in the last day or so. So what's happened recently (ie: what's in the snapshot below: - Latest 0.92.1 release - I think the horrible massive amounts of prompts aka as the gnome-keyring prompt should be fixed! YAY!!! - Random error on boot to not give you Sugar. Basically you should be able to boot and get the Give me your name sugar new users prompt. You should then not be bothered by dialog boxes YAY! What I think or know is still broken: - Browse: yes, known problem! - Read: yes, its a broken record ;-) - TurtleArt: Walter knows the problem (and will reply as to ETA for a new releast) ;-) The fix is already in git. I will be releasing the new TurtleBlocks as soon as I track down one more bug unrelated to F15: suddenly keyboard input has stopped working from GNOME (the Sugar version is fine) :P Thanks for the update. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS fixes this week!!
Raffael Reichelt wrote: Hello Peter! 2011/4/16 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com Its unfortunately 64 bit so it won't work on the eeePC but should on the rest. For VMWare you'll need to make sure you configure a x86-64 VM. Confirmed it will not boot on my 9 EeePC900 with external USB CD/DVD For the MBA, what problems are you having? I'm hoping to get a friend to do some testing for me on his Mac. Peter That changes something. Assuming it is a 32Bit build I did not give it a try to direct efi boot - its working and giving the boot entry an additional basic-video parameter the sugar animation shows up ... and I am back to a debug shell: first error message seems like mkdir cannot create a directory /run. Is this in any way helpfull? It does boot fine with C on power up of the MacBook Pro i7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#SoaSv5-20110415-i686 NOTE; Do a restart with Control Panel / Color selector and f1 Jabber connection works with a wired network connection. I did install it with liveinst on MacBook using 32 bit fedora in VirtualBox4.0.4 OSX ; but it is quite slow, Testing on fedora 64 bit (it is much faster) I will try VMWare with 64Bit Settings now ... Raffael ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] SoaSv5-20110415-i686 Testing
Soas-v5 testing version with fixes by pbrobinson. [1] Wiki Page [2] This is actually: x86-64 (mislabeled) Boots CD with c on power up of MacBook Pro i7 Requires USB Mouse or Trackpad and wired network (No wireless) Installs to VirtualBox4.0.4 OSX Correctly with liveinst in root terminal Tested on ACER ASPIRE ONE N45 and external DVD/CD USB drive starts at Name Activities Tests: Key to preliminary tests: = does not start (+/-)=starts but not right Write 72 Memorize 36 (+/-) Etoys 116 error on start (+/-)Calculate 35 blank sub-menus Physics 8 (+/-)Record 66 no sound Speak 20 Turtle Art 35 IRC 9 slow starting (needs to point to port 8001) (+/-)Pippy 40 cannot import name physics etc not all functions play (physics xolympics)''' Chat 70 Log 24 Abacus 19 Terminal 31 Browse 120 Sugar on a Stick 5 Fedora Release 15 (Lovelock) Sugar 0.92.1 No Jabber connections after restart to gdm login for live user; jabber is found and works Network cannot connect to wireless (sees wireless AP in F1 neighborhood; but no drop down connect message) Ethernet works with cat 5 cable [1] http://fedora.roving-it.com/SoaSv5-20110415-i686.iso [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#SoaSv5-20110415-i686 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS fixes this week!!
Preliminary testing: Acer and MacBook + activities http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#SoaSv5-20110415-i686 Looks Good : ) Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Fans! So we've had a lot of movement and fixes submitted this week! Actually. I've fixed a few things in the last day or so. So what's happened recently (ie: what's in the snapshot below: - Latest 0.92.1 release - I think the horrible massive amounts of prompts aka as the gnome-keyring prompt should be fixed! YAY!!! - Random error on boot to not give you Sugar. Basically you should be able to boot and get the Give me your name sugar new users prompt. You should then not be bothered by dialog boxes YAY! What I think or know is still broken: - Browse: yes, known problem! - Read: yes, its a broken record ;-) - TurtleArt: Walter knows the problem (and will reply as to ETA for a new releast) ;-) The fix is already in git. I will be releasing the new TurtleBlocks as soon as I track down one more bug unrelated to F15: suddenly keyboard input has stopped working from GNOME (the Sugar version is fine) :P Thanks for the update. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora-15-Nightly-20110412.22-i686-Live-soas.iso TESTING
Testing: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15-Nightly-20110412.22-i686-Live-soas.iso Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [realness] Re: S050 - Informática para Tontos / E050 - Computer Science for Dummies
Carlos Rabassa wrote: Frederick, I am not familiar with WIndows. I switched to Macintosh in 1993. Last May a few nice knowledgeable guys tried to put SoaS in my Mac but it wouldn´t work. They concluded SoaS was not yet ready for MacOS. Does SoaS work now in Macs? Has anyone tried it successfully? Tested today: 04/08/2011 Macbook Pro i7: Intel Core i7-2620 CPU@ 2.70 z x4 Intel Sandybridge Mobile GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT 1-) VirtualBox 4.0.4 OSX Emulation seems to be best: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files ( a list of ready to go Importable Virtual Machines with sugar.) Trisquel-4.1-sugar works very well as a SoaS and is Recommended for Intel Macs http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files/Trisquel#Trisquel-4.1-sugar 2-) These CD's boot on the MAC (hold C key during power on on Mac about 10+ sec) Ethernet (wired) and usb mouse work (No wireless) http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.RC2/Live/i686/Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop.iso Gnome3-shell 2.91.93 Desktop http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2983261name=Fedora-15-Nightly-20110407.23-i686-Live-soas.iso SoaS f15 there are still some problems with Soas: on first login to Live User it tries to go to start openbox log out then type in live user in the login bar other select sugar as gdm dropdown it will fail next log in live user (no password) and sugar will start If Ethernet (wired) is connected the f1 neigborhood works on jabber Control Panel/ About My Computer: Sugar on a stick 5 sugar 0.92.0 3-)Notes: 04/06/2011 10:15 AM Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS v5 status pbrobinson had these alternate instructions: Those impatient people can boot up the current release and when it boots to the login screen do a Ctrl + Alt + F2 login as root, run rpm -e openbox, do a Ctrl + Alt + F8 and then login and you should get a lovely sweet Sugar :-D I still think Virtualization is the Best way to run sugar on a Mac Tom Gilliard satellit on IRC freenode #sugar http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/desktop/ (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2983251name=Fedora-15-Nightly-20110407.23-i686-Live-desktop.iso) Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: On 4/8/11, Carlos Rabassa car...@mac.com wrote: S050 - Informática para Tontos https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1FVJC2Ij4Vsub_3RJBu9HIhf6qRqdQVbq1WZrvebm7-c E050 - Computer Science for Dummies https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=131-kPidBmlTFE14DvSkYFGzNWlWD1KjY0lsAW673vag Carlos Rabassa Voluntario Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal Montevideo, Uruguay See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Boot Clarifications and other improvements are welcome. --Fred ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS v5 status
Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sorry for a lot of the recent radio silence. In short I've been travelling a lot and work and my personal life took over pretty close to completely since FUDCon at the end of January :-( That said I've spent some time over the last couple of days to fix up and update some SoaS bits and as of the next compose the Fedora 15 live image should be working [1]. Those impatient people can boot up the current release and when it boots to the login screen do a Ctrl + Alt + F2 login as root, run rpm -e openbox, do a Ctrl + Alt + F8 and then login and you should get a lovely sweet Sugar :-D So next on the SoaS release ToDo list is the following: - List of shipped (and working) Activities - Release name (Suggestions?) - Testing. A slight follow up on the status of Activities that are currently shipping with this release (feedback wanted): Basic testing as working: Abacus Calculate Chat Chat starts but does not allow writing to input line when shared..on f15 TC1 live desktop yum @sugar-desktop install.? (in sugar-emulator) using gnome3-shell Log Memorize Physics Pippy Record Speak Terminal Write IRC Activities with issues: Browse (xulrunner/firefox issues) Read (issues with gnome-python2-evince API changes/breakage) TurtleArt (unknown - doesn't start) If anyone is able to assist in the fixing of those 3 Activities I would really appreciate it. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SoaS v5 status
Peter: Marketing Meeting just ended: Take a look Tom Gilliard satellit http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2011-04-05T14:05:39 http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2011-04-05T14:05:39.html Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sorry for a lot of the recent radio silence. In short I've been travelling a lot and work and my personal life took over pretty close to completely since FUDCon at the end of January :-( That said I've spent some time over the last couple of days to fix up and update some SoaS bits and as of the next compose the Fedora 15 live image should be working [1]. Those impatient people can boot up the current release and when it boots to the login screen do a Ctrl + Alt + F2 login as root, run rpm -e openbox, do a Ctrl + Alt + F8 and then login and you should get a lovely sweet Sugar :-D So next on the SoaS release ToDo list is the following: - List of shipped (and working) Activities - Release name (Suggestions?) - Testing. A slight follow up on the status of Activities that are currently shipping with this release (feedback wanted): Basic testing as working: Abacus Calculate Chat Chat starts but does not allow writing to input line when shared..on f15 TC1 live desktop yum @sugar-desktop install.? (in sugar-emulator) using gnome3-shell Thanks for the report. My current VM has limited network access so I couldn't test it properly. I plan to do that this evening when I reinstall my netbook and have properly networking an other devices to test with. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SoaS v5 status
Peter: These are the major problems I see with sugar-desktop 0.92.0 installed to f15: yum install@sugar-desktop --skip-broken sugar-emulator http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/i686/Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop.iso 1. Multiple pop-ups of keychain on starting sugar-emulator https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690586 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649013 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2652 2. Activities we need: Browse and Turtle-art-106 fail to start Chat will not allow entering text in bottom line when shared Read is broken (surf-115-xo and Browse 115w.xo work when added by drag-drop to journal from 2nd USB) 3-Central Avitar in f1 on jabber disappears after several minutes. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2483 Fix is to restart sugar or change colors and restart from Control Panel 4-Soas CD will not boot correctly. Those impatient people can boot up the current release and when it boots to the login screen do a Ctrl + Alt + F2 login as root, run rpm -e openbox, do a Ctrl + Alt + F8 and then login and you should get a lovely sweet Sugar :-D Looking forward to next nightly : ) Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SoaS v5 status
Rafael Ortiz wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter: These are the major problems I see with sugar-desktop 0.92.0 installed to f15: yum install@sugar-desktop --skip-broken sugar-emulator http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/i686/Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop.iso 1. Multiple pop-ups of keychain on starting sugar-emulator https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690586 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649013 http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2652 2. Activities we need: Browse and Turtle-art-106 fail to start Browse logs appreciated, also. note: to get surf-115.xo to start (It is blocked if activity number installed is greater (a bug I think) I did cd /usr/share/sugar/activities rm -rf Browse.activity Browse logs before and after hulahop install: ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module main.main() File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 121, in main module = __import__(module_name) File /home/robert/Activities/Browse.activity/webactivity.py, line 132, in module import hulahop ImportError: No module named hulahop Exited with status 1, pid 2099 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 0xa4c7548, '89125b1ea973ef9d97d84f3d34fc97ab4fc237e6') sugar-terminal: su yum install hulahop* installing hulahop i686 0.7.1-3.fc14 fedora Installing for dependencies xulrunner-python i686 1.9.2-4.20100111hg.fc14 fedora Browse still fails : ) new sugar-log: ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (HippoCanvasBox) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module main.main() File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 121, in main module = __import__(module_name) File /home/robert/Activities/Browse.activity/webactivity.py, line 132, in module import hulahop File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hulahop/__init__.py, line 29, in module from hulahop._hulahop import shutdown ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/hulahop/_hulahop.so: undefined symbol: XRE_InitEmbedding Exited with status 1, pid 2252 data (None, open file 'fdopen', mode 'w' at 0xa4c75f8, '8977d0a712209195b14a85255c557a280ae13962') Chat will not allow entering text in bottom line when shared Read is broken (surf-115-xo and Browse 115w.xo work when added by drag-drop to journal from 2nd USB) 3-Central Avitar in f1 on jabber disappears after several minutes. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2483 Fix is to restart sugar or change colors and restart from Control Panel 4-Soas CD will not boot correctly. Those impatient people can boot up the current release and when it boots to the login screen do a Ctrl + Alt + F2 login as root, run rpm -e openbox, do a Ctrl + Alt + F8 and then login and you should get a lovely sweet Sugar :-D Looking forward to next nightly : ) Tom Gilliard satellit Cheers!, ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Fedora_15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0
FYI New today: The f15 desktop live .iso [1] Boots from CD to gnome3 and installs to HD. sugar 0.92.0 can also be installed see method: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora#Fedora_15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0 Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode #sugar IRC Download: [1] http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/i686/Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop.iso ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Fedora_15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0
Art Hunkins wrote: Is there yet a public SoaS release that incorporates Sugar 0.92? (Hopefully as an .iso installable via Live USB Creator?) I just tested http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2967493name=Fedora-15-Nightly-20110401.17-i686-Live-soas.iso It fails with pop-up message failed to load sessiongnome-openbox (LOG 0UT) Then goes to login Live System User when log in get pop-up message failed to load sessiongnome-openbox (LOG 0UT) other gdm shows GNOME/Openbox -get pop-up message failed to load sessiongnome-openbox (LOG 0UT) Openbox Live System User and blank password:(authentication failure) Sugar Live System User and blank password:(authentication failure) Command F5 login init3: root return liveinst Install to HD use whole disk Boot HD in VirtualBox #sugar IRC clips from booted VM of Soas 20110401: * Soas-b81e (~u...@208-100-148-220.bendbroadband.com) has joined #sugar Soas-b81e testing Fedora-15-Nightly-20110401.17-i686-live-soas.iso installed to HD in Virtualbox. have to use ALT f5 init3 login as root then liveinst to install soas. It will not boot as CD get failed to load session gnome-openbox pop up. Fix is init3 install then incomplete sugar install is possible. gdm shows GNOME/Openbox -get pop-up message failed to load sessiongnome-openbox (LOG 0UT)-Openbox Live System User and blank password:(authentication failure) Sugar Live System User and blank password:(authentication failure) we do get boot to gdm with f15 birds in a tree background now. but Sugar-Control Panel says Sugar on a stick 4 Mango lassi sugar 0.92.0 ? even though this is f15 spin? This is better than we have gotten so far with the broken Soas spins in f15. That is why I have been experimenting with sugar-desktop installs in gnome3-shell: See: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora#Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop-Download Tom Gilliard Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com To: SoaS soas@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: [Sugar-devel] Fedora_15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0 FYI New today: The f15 desktop live .iso [1] Boots from CD to gnome3 and installs to HD. sugar 0.92.0 can also be installed see method: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora#Fedora_15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0 Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode #sugar IRC Download: [1] http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Beta.TC1/Live/i686/Fedora-15-Beta-i686-Live-Desktop.iso ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Someone needs to fix http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/test/ for new fedora listing style
Note: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/ points to http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/2011-03-27-nightly-spins.html which points to http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2952109 where http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=2952109name=Fedora-15-Nightly-20110327.20-i686-Live-soas.iso can be downloaded. http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/test/ has been collecting weekly test Soas test.iso's Mel set this up for Soas: This no longer works. Please fix if possible. satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] f15 gnome3 install to HD with sugar0.92.0 and how to edit menus with alacarte
James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 03:05:48PM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#f15_gnome3_with_sugar0.92.0 No such anchor in the page. The correct link is currently: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#f15_gnome3_with_sugar_0.92.0 Also, in this section you refer to, I can't tell if this is a test report, an installation procedure, or something else. It seems to be a farm of links with a few commands thrown in. I'm puzzled as to why the section is inside a section ON-LINE VERSION, and why the section is in the page Sugar Creation Kit. The table of contents of the Sugar Creation Kit page is quite random and confusing. Have you had any feedback on this from others? I have just tried to simplify, and organize: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit Please look at it and let me any ideas on how it can be improved. Tom Gilliard satellit Here is my explanation for having the On-Line Version: ON-LINE VERSION An expanded and enhanced listing of Items Included in the SugarCreationKit DVD ver 1.2.3 Use to Download the elements you need and burn to your own DVD to save Downloading all of the above SCK DVD.iso How to make your own custom Sugar-Creation_Kit.iso file Collect, annotate and sort the files you want in a folder on your Desktop. burn the contents of this folder to a CD or DVD. Use the following command in Terminal as the root user: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=Sugar-Creation-Kit.iso Perhaps the page could be more organised. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] f15 gnome3 install to HD with sugar0.92.0 and how to edit menus with alacarte
Peter; This is strange the USB created by dd command seems to be the only way I have gotten a good install. It boots fine as gnome3 x86-64 in ACER ASPIRE ONE and as gnome2 version (fallback) in EeePC100HE? 32 bit .iso USB works for both. VirtualBox4.0.4 starts as fallback as expected. I am able to install by yum groupinstall* --skip-broken due to missing dependencies on an application. I have tried using f15 and f14 fedora livecd-tools : livecd-creator \ --config=/home/sugar/Desktop/spin-kickstarts/fedora-sugar-live-desktop.ks \ --fslabel=desktop-soas-v5-123032011 --cache=/var/cache/live --verbose (see attached 2 .ks files) but run out of room on / when it tries to install? Soas has not worked so far. I just tried to open todays soas-i386-20110314 in VirtualBox4.0.4 It stops with a pop up : [failed to load session gnome openbox] [X Close] The Sugar Creation Kit entries are notes I just wrote today and I will probably move them to: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for the update. Its good to know. I spent quite a bit of time at FUDCon getting it to a working state. Have you by chance tested any of the post alpha SoaS nightly builds? Peter On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#f15_gnome3_with_sugar0.92.0 It works fine from Hard Disk on Acer Aspire One Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas # Maintained by the Fedora Desktop SIG: # http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop # mailto:desk...@lists.fedoraproject.org %include fedora15-live-base.ks %packages @graphical-internet @sound-and-video @gnome-desktop @office # added tg -sugar-read @sugar-desktop sugar-emulator # FIXME; apparently the glibc maintainers dislike this, but it got put into the # desktop image at some point. We won't touch this one for now. nss-mdns # This one needs to be kicked out of @base -smartmontools %end %post cat /etc/rc.d/init.d/livesys EOF # disable screensaver locking gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t bool /apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled false /dev/null gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/lockdown/disable_lock_screen true /dev/null # set up timed auto-login for after 60 seconds cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf FOE [daemon] TimedLoginEnable=true TimedLogin=liveuser TimedLoginDelay=60 FOE # Show harddisk install on the desktop sed -i -e 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/' /usr/share/applications/liveinst.desktop mkdir /home/liveuser/Desktop cp /usr/share/applications/liveinst.desktop /home/liveuser/Desktop chown -R liveuser.liveuser /home/liveuser/Desktop chmod a+x /home/liveuser/Desktop/liveinst.desktop # But not trash and home gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t bool /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible false /dev/null gconftool-2 --direct --config-source=xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t bool /apps/nautilus/desktop/home_icon_visible false /dev/null # Turn off PackageKit-command-not-found while uninstalled sed -i -e 's/^SoftwareSourceSearch=true/SoftwareSourceSearch=false/' /etc/PackageKit/CommandNotFound.conf EOF %end # fedora-live-base.ks # # Defines the basics for all kickstarts in the fedora-live branch # Does not include package selection (other then mandatory) # Does not include localization packages or configuration # # Does includes default language configuration (kickstarts including # this template can override these settings) lang en_US.UTF-8 keyboard us timezone US/Eastern auth --useshadow --enablemd5 selinux --enforcing firewall --enabled --service=mdns xconfig --startxonboot part / --size 3072 --fstype ext4 services --enabled=NetworkManager --disabled=network,sshd #repo --name=rawhide --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhidearch=$basearch repo --name=fedora --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch #repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f$releaseverarch=$basearch #repo --name=updates-testing --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-testing-f$releaseverarch=$basearch %packages @base-x @base @core @fonts @input-methods # use a small pinyin db for live -ibus-pinyin-db-open-phrase ibus-pinyin-db-android @admin-tools @dial-up @hardware-support @printing # Explicitly specified here: # notting walters: because otherwise dependency loops cause yum issues. kernel # This was added a while ago, I think it falls into the category of # Diagnosis/recovery
[SoaS] Today's Spins Sig Meeting Log FYI
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2011-03-07/spins_sig_meeting.2011-03-07-20.08.log.html Possibly important Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] How to make things stick on the stick
Traver, Cherrice wrote: I find that when I use SoaS and install a new activity, it does not persist the next time I use it. Is there something special that needs to be done to have changes written to the flash drive? Or is this just a limitation of the SoaS approach? use liveusb-creator and set persistence to have a bootable USB that saves content http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Liveusb_Creator unetbootin and other methods do not make a persistent file Enjoy; Tom Gilliard Cherrice ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Tests of applications on booted Trisquel 4.1 sugar installed to a 8Gb USB
I attach a spreadsheet: Tests of applications on booted Trisquel 4.1 sugar installed to a 8Gb USB Test of Trisquel 4.1 sugar Applications.ods Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar IRC freenode Test of Trisquel 4.1 sugar Applications.ods Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] Updated ASLOxo.iso (DVD) available for Download
Entries in http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit for ASLO-4.iso are removed The Files are still on http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ For a little longer Tom Gilliard Rafael Ortiz wrote: Hi Thomas, On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Updated ASLOxo.iso (DVD) available for Download (1.3 GB) Download: http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLOxo-5.iso Info: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#ASLOxo-5.iso ASLO-4 (1) Updated with new activities through 02/08/2011 Including these large Programs: OOo4Kids1.0-en-es-fr.xo (Open Office Suite) 113.3 MB http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page gcompris-15.xo (Suite of gcompris games) 62.9 MB http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/26968/gcompris-15.xo gcompris_administration-15.xo (for teacher control) http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/26969/gcompris_administration-15.xo - These can be (selectively) copied to a 1-2-GB USB device and drag-Âdropped into the Sugar Journal to install them. - Designed for sneaker net and off web installations. - Note: I plan to delete out of date ASLO-4.iso unless someone still needs it. Please comment on lists. This is great for deployments and internet restrained enviroments thanks!. Tom Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC (1)http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/ASLO-4.iso ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] CD livecd-fedora-live-desktop-201101311532.iso Boots into F14 Gnome Desktop using the C key on MacBook Air and a Burned DVD
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528232 Luke Macken mailto:lmac...@redhat.com 2011-01-31 18:08:44 EST I updated our patch to support the following models: iMac9,1 MacBookAir2,1 MacBookPro5,5 MacBookPro6,2 I also spun up an F14 x86_64 live image with this patch. Testing appreciated. http://lewk.org/livecd-fedora-live-desktop-201101311532.iso https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528232#c85 This works nicely; Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Local download page for 16 Sugar Related Floss Manual .pdf files
James Simmons wrote: Kevin, This is a known problem with the Spanish version of MYOSA. The table of contents has an odd encoding. It will take someone who knows Spanish and about character encodings to fix this. The actual pages in the manual seem to be OK. James Simmons I just did a direct download of the pdf and it shows the same strange characters in the index. (the same ones as on the sugarlabs.pdf) Seems to be due to accented characters on the web page index. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro kmbc141...@gmail.com wrote: hello like this I downloaded the file http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/Activitys_Guide-sugar_sp_09Nov10.pdf and I've seen that there are problems with the PDF on your content and that some words appear in the form of symbols I have not looked the other file you've uploaded, but if there is no way I can give you relief aid 2011/1/20 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com I have uploaded 16.pdf files to: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/ Links have been added to: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Floss_Manuals I hope that this is an appropriate thing to do. Having a local copy of the latest Manuals seemed like a good thing to do. (I am in the process of updating the Sugar Creation Kit.DVD and needed to include them in it.) Tom Gilliard satellit Re: [Sugar-devel] Git introductory material (Fwd: git top links: 2011-1) 01/19/2011 03:18 PM On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:11:26AM -0600, James Simmons wrote: Unfortunately, the FLOSS Manuals website seems to be having issues this morning, but when it comes back up you should be able to find the chapter and link to it. Perhaps a copy of this book could be held on Sugar Labs infrastructure? -- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro Soporte Técnico | Proyecto XO | AMCHAM Nicaragua. === ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Local download page for 16 Sugar Related Floss Manual .pdf files
I have uploaded 16.pdf files to: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/floss_manuals/ Links have been added to: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Floss_Manuals I hope that this is an appropriate thing to do. Having a local copy of the latest Manuals seemed like a good thing to do. (I am in the process of updating the Sugar Creation Kit.DVD and needed to include them in it.) Tom Gilliard satellit Re: [Sugar-devel] Git introductory material (Fwd: git top links: 2011-1) 01/19/2011 03:18 PM On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 09:11:26AM -0600, James Simmons wrote: Unfortunately, the FLOSS Manuals website seems to be having issues this morning, but when it comes back up you should be able to find the chapter and link to it. Perhaps a copy of this book could be held on Sugar Labs infrastructure? -- ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS 5 feature list
I added this to the Soas_v-5 list: Implement feature: Revised_Browse_default-bookmarks proposed and approved for v-4 SoaS http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Revised_Browse_default-bookmarks.html We need to discuss on list what would included on the wiki page linked from the sugar-browse start up screen. I had originally proposed a condensed version of the online sugar creation kit for it here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Creation_Kit (last revised 06/29/2010; so far out of date) Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, Will the (hopefully short term) withdrawal of Sebastian from SoaS I'm sending out the feature process email for V5. With the reduction in the team I'm not going to have the weekly feature process meetings but think that a on list discussion might be the best way to proceed for this release. For the V5 process I'll be working on the core release and likely not much else (my spare time has been greatly reduced as well). Please put any feature write up any features within the following wiki structure. Quite happy to have them discussed on list initially as well. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V5/ So what else are people working on or interested in? Regards, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5
Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I just thought I would give people a heads up for changes that I'm aware of that are going to be appearing in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5. The big one will be gnome3/gtk3 plus the associated changes that will come with the required pygtk / gobject-introspection (Tomeu could you possibly fill out some of the impact of this?), I'm somewhat concerned about this actually but time will tell. Also on the cards is the following: - csound 5.12.1 (in rawhide now - please test) - systemd - new init startup - I don't this affects us directly in that we don't have any specific custom services that depend on it So far the nightly composes (latest soas-i386-20101227.17.iso) stop at gdm login for livuser and then reboot and restart continuously. So I am unable to test. Is this due to systemd? Testing link: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick_release_process#CD_Boots Also; The desktop spin logs in but will not install with liveinst ( Anaconda) (although it might affect olpc) - /var/run and /var/lock mounted as tmpfs (likely no affect as the last one) - Replace setuid applications with File Capabilities in order to make them more secure (again I don't think anything will be affected) All the current approved Fedora 15 features can be found here [1] If anyone else knows of anything else that might affect the release, or if anyone has queries or more information to add please speak up. Regards, Peter [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureAcceptedF15 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] Mango Lassi USB Boot issue
Use a fedora Virtual Appliance in Debian Lenny to create a persistent liveUSB: 1-) Download and installing loading virtualbox-3.2_3.2.12-68302~Debian~lenny_i386.deb (http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.12/virtualbox-3.2_3.2.12-68302~Debian~lenny_i386.deb 2-) Download and install Fedora-13- into Virtualbox: http://mirror.uoregon.edu/fedora/linux/releases/13/Live/i686/Fedora-13-i686-Live.iso (you can use f14 also) 3-) set up USB share filter (Settings/ports/USB enable/ add empty filter ) 4-)Start the Fedora-13 appliance, (be sure to change the CD setting to empty from the .iso prior to starting) install liveusb-creator (root terminal yum install liveusb-creator and yum install gparted 5-)format the 4 GB USB as fat16 or fat32 labeled FEDORA (CAPS) boot flag set using gparted in fedora 13 (Very important) 6-) start liveusb-creator. choose your USB /dev/sd(x) FEDORA set persistence with slider and Choose the live .iso for the USB you want to use. Resulting persistent Live USB should boot properly. This method should be an OS and Hardware agnostic way to create a Live USB Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode IRC #sugar Rajiv Bhushan wrote: Yes I have. However, as I was installing from a Debian Lenny based system. Most of these were not applicable to me. The only options available to me were to either use unetbootin, or to use the livecd-iso-to-disk.sh script. When I click on the link, it downloads a file called yfRX867I.sh.part and not livecd-iso-to-disk.sh If I rename the downloaded file to livecd-iso-to-disk.sh and execute the script as suggested in the instructions, the script is unable to run. This only left the unetbootin option, which gave me the errors described earlier. It is quite possible, that unetbootin 372-1 cannot be used -- which is what I suspect -- However, that is the only version available to me on Lenny -- and trying to install the squeeze version shifts me over into dependency hell! Thanks for the thought. Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Rajiv Bhushanrajiv.bhus...@gmail.com wrote: The same thing occurs with SOAS Mirabelle I am using Unetbootin release 372 I tried modifying syslinux.cfg as suggested in https://answers.launchpad.net/soas/+question/95622 I modified the line append initrd=/ubninit root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM to append initrd=/ubninit root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=iso966o ro liveimg quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM selinux=0 Still produced the error - No root device found Boot has failed, sleeping forever - Suggestions are welcome Rajiv Bhushan wrote: I just use Unetbootin to write the latest Mango Lassi ISO on to a 4G USB stick. I booted onto a Compaq and a Toshiba laptop, and After the initial splash screens, the boot process stops, and I get the following message (Note '--' indicates begining and end of message or file) - No root device found Boot has failed, sleeping forever - On examining the files on the USB stick in the /efi/boot folder, boot.conf is as below -- default=0 splashimage=/EFI/boot/splash.xpm.gz timeout 10 hiddenmenu title Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 root=live:LABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb initrd /EFI/boot/initrd0.img title Verify and Boot Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 root=live:LABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb check initrd /EFI/boot/initrd0.img -- The root folder / the file syslinux.cfg is as follows default vesamenu.c32 prompt 0 menu title UNetbootin timeout 100 label unetbootindefault menu label Default kernel /ubnkern append initrd=/ubninit root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM label ubnentry0 menu label Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 append initrd=/EFI/boot/initrd0.img root=live:LABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb label ubnentry1 menu label Verify and Boot Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 append initrd=/EFI/boot/initrd0.img root=live:LABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb check label ubnentry2 menu label Boot kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 append initrd=/EFI/boot/initrd0.img root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM label ubnentry3 menu label Boot (Basic Video) kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 append initrd=/EFI/boot/initrd0.img root=live:CDLABEL=Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS rootfstype=auto ro liveimg quiet rhgb rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM xdriver=vesa nomodeset label ubnentry4 menu label Verify and Boot kernel /EFI/boot/vmlinuz0 append initrd=/EFI/boot/initrd0.img
Re: [SoaS] Announcement: New Virtualbox Appliances of Trisquel-3-sugar and Debian-squeeze-sugar available for download
On 12/6/10 2:54 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 02:30:49AM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: The new Virtualbox appliances have been uploaded to: http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/ Suggestion: in the .txt files in that directory, wrap the text to about 80 columns so that people with small web browser windows don't need to use the horizontal scrollbar to read the text. Alternate suggestion: use .html files instead. Lastly, if the file ReadMeFirst-soas.txt was renamed Fedora-13-i686-Live-SoaS-sugaruser.readme.txt or something similar, then it would appear next to the file it relates to. Done: Thanks for the suggestions. FYI I have added a 4th Appliance: Mandriva linux 2010.1 with sugar: sudo urpmi sugar-glucose plus yum install sugar-emulator A sugar Icon on the gnome desktop commands sugar-emulator -f (full screen) Cordially; Thanks for testing. Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Announcement: New Virtualbox Appliances of Trisquel-3-sugar and Debian-squeeze-sugar available for download
The new Virtualbox appliances have been uploaded to: http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/ Current appliances are listed here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Other_virtual_machines They were built on a MacBook Air with Oracle VM VirtualBox (3.2.10-r66523) then tested on a Ubuntu installation on an Acer Aspire One Netbook imported into VirtualBox (3.2.10 r66523) Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] Annoucement: Appliance of Sugar on a Stick v3-Mirabelle uploaded to: download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/
There is a new Virtualbox Appliance for downloading and importing into Virtualbox3.2 This should be OS and hardware agnostic. I have tested it on Ubuntu and a MacBook Air after downloading. Please test. Thanks; Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode #sugar IRC Link: http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/ Note: Use the latest version of Oracle VM VirtualBox (3.2_10.8-64453 or later). Some appliances have multiple hard disc controllers and the earlier Sun VirtualBox 3.1 version does not support them. Note2: All appliances were built on a MacBook Air with Oracle VM VirtualBox (3.2.10-r66523) then tested on a Ubuntu installation on an Acer Aspire One Netbook imported into VirtualBox (3.2.10 r66523) * Appliance of Sugar on a Stick v3-Mirabelle (no firstboot so user can set password and name for the gdm login) root=sugarroot 8-GB VirtualBox hard disc English and English keyboard USA-Los Angeles (Pacific timezone) download and import 2 files: Fedora-13-i686-Live-SoaS-sugaruser.vmdk Fedora-13-i686-Live-SoaS-sugaruser.ovf Note3: Suggestion Set ControlPanel/Frame Edge slider to far left for easier access to sugar-frame features ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox
Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com Raffael; I just built a f14-Desktop 2nd USB using the same method and it boots fine on the MacBook Air. I then did yum groupinstall sugar-desktop and then yum install sugar-emulator. (took 2 hrs because of the slowness of USB) Now I have a USB that will boot sugar or gnome via the gdm login. thanks for testing; Tom Gilliard Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook Air : In VirtualBox Make a new Virtualbox appliance where you specify the existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk. NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s This a very simple solution with [http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg] installed on your Mac. See: [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB] I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb slices. :: TESTED ON: :: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox :: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox :: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup. The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password required to access it. I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for. A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is downloadable from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit __ _ SoaS mailing lists...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Raffael; Here are the specs I used: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2 -*Root Password=sugarroot*_ Expanded and copied 8 files to USB* Built on this site:http://www.easyvmx.com/ CDhttp://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso Used Soas-v3-Mirabelle CD in VMplayer to install: Used liveinst in sugar-root terminal USB* Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx (on 4GB Firefly USB) Formatted fat 16 Label=MIRABELLE Specs: Other Linux 2.6.x kernel Workstation 6.0 virtual machine 512 MB 1 Processor 4.7 GB HD CD/DVD (IDE) Auto Detect Network Adapter NAT Oracle Virtualbox 3.2.10 r66523 for OSX settings: OS: Linux/fedora 512 Base Memory 12 MB Video Memory Storage:Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk Slot SATA Port 0 Attached to Soas-v3-on 2nd USB Network Adapter 1 enabled NAT Works fine here. thanks for testing! Tom Gilliard satellit I tried it on my MacBookAir, OSX 10.6.5, VirtualBox 3.2.10 and it needed about 3 times booting undtil it worked (crashes during firstboot and logon). One Problem is there is a root password set and my user is not in sudoers. -- __ _ SoaS mailing lists...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Hello Tom! Thanks for the root password - I will test a little bit further. Let you know then ... Raffael Hello Thomas! Is there no way to boot a virtual machine physically from usb (virtualbox under OSX)? So far I have not found any way to boot a USB directly in OSX Look at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2 (This is an experimental method I am working on,,,) Uses this Boot helper Cd to boot Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso HOW TO BUILD: 1-) 4 GB USB created in Virtualbox 3.2 for OSX install of f14-desktop on a MacBook Air with liveusb-creator (I have had problems using liveusb's created outside of OSX) 2-) resulting live USB is then booted with Boot helper CD yum install liveusb-creator install Virtualbox3.2 for fedora 3-) shutdown 4-)insert USB into desktop PC running linux 5-) Create .img file dd if=(liveusb) of=Mac_F14_Vbox.img 6-) Compress .img file this is resulting file uplinked
[SoaS] workaround for soas-v4 f14 CP: Update until it is fixed.
root sugar-terminal yum update sugar* Seems to update activities well: sugar 0.90.3 sugar-browse 120-1.fc14 sugar-physics 7.1.fc14 sugar-pippy 38.1.fc14 sugar-write 72-1.fc14 Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox
Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook Air : In VirtualBox Make a new Virtualbox appliance where you specify the existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk. NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s This a very simple solution with [ http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg] installed on your Mac. See: [ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB] I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb slices. :: TESTED ON: :: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox :: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox :: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup. The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password required to access it. I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for. A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is downloadable from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Raffael; Here are the specs I used: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2 -*Root Password=sugarroot*_ Expanded and copied 8 files to USB* Built on this site: http://www.easyvmx.com/ CD http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso Used Soas-v3-Mirabelle CD in VMplayer to install: Used liveinst in sugar-root terminal USB* Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx (on 4GB Firefly USB) Formatted fat 16 Label=MIRABELLE Specs: Other Linux 2.6.x kernel Workstation 6.0 virtual machine 512 MB 1 Processor 4.7 GB HD CD/DVD (IDE) Auto Detect Network Adapter NAT Oracle Virtualbox 3.2.10 r66523 for OSX settings: OS: Linux/fedora 512 Base Memory 12 MB Video Memory Storage:Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk Slot SATA Port 0 Attached to Soas-v3-on 2nd USB Network Adapter 1 enabled NAT Works fine here. thanks for testing! Tom Gilliard satellit I tried it on my MacBookAir, OSX 10.6.5, VirtualBox 3.2.10 and it needed about 3 times booting undtil it worked (crashes during firstboot and logon). One Problem is there is a root password set and my user is not in sudoers. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox
Raffael; I just built a f14-Desktop 2nd USB using the same method and it boots fine on the MacBook Air. I then did yum groupinstall sugar-desktop and then yum install sugar-emulator. (took 2 hrs because of the slowness of USB) Now I have a USB that will boot sugar or gnome via the gdm login. thanks for testing; Tom Gilliard Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com satel...@bendbroadband.com Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook Air : In VirtualBox Make a new Virtualbox appliance where you specify the existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk. NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s This a very simple solution with [ http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg] installed on your Mac. See: [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB] I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb slices. :: TESTED ON: :: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox :: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox :: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup. The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password required to access it. I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for. A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is downloadable from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing lists...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Raffael; Here are the specs I used: http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2 -*Root Password=sugarroot*_ Expanded and copied 8 files to USB* Built on this site: http://www.easyvmx.com/ CD http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso Used Soas-v3-Mirabelle CD in VMplayer to install: Used liveinst in sugar-root terminal USB* Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx (on 4GB Firefly USB) Formatted fat 16 Label=MIRABELLE Specs: Other Linux 2.6.x kernel Workstation 6.0 virtual machine 512 MB 1 Processor 4.7 GB HD CD/DVD (IDE) Auto Detect Network Adapter NAT Oracle Virtualbox 3.2.10 r66523 for OSX settings: OS: Linux/fedora 512 Base Memory 12 MB Video Memory Storage:Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk Slot SATA Port 0 Attached to Soas-v3-on 2nd USB Network Adapter 1 enabled NAT Works fine here. thanks for testing! Tom Gilliard satellit I tried it on my MacBookAir, OSX 10.6.5, VirtualBox 3.2.10 and it needed about 3 times booting undtil it worked (crashes during firstboot and logon). One Problem is there is a root password set and my user is not in sudoers. -- ___ SoaS mailing lists...@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Hello Tom! Thanks for the root password - I will test a little bit further. Let you know then ... Raffael ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [soas] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox
Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook Air : In VirtualBox Make a new Virtualbox appliance where you specify the existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk. NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s This a very simple solution with [http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg] installed on your Mac. See: [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB] I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb slices. :: TESTED ON: :: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox :: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox :: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup. The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password required to access it. I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for. A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is downloadable from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance Thomas Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [soas] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox
James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 05:16:48PM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either VMPlayer or Virtualbox. This is an install using liveinst in sugar terminal to the VM's Hard Disk. It is no longer a live file system with a persistence overlay All I am doing is copying the 8 resulting files: nvram Soas-v3-Mirabelle.log ''Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk - Use this file Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmsd Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmxf Soas-v3-Mirabelle-s001.vmdk Soas-v3-Mirabelle-s002.vmdk Soas-v3-Mirabelle-s003.vmdk on the 4 GB 2nd USB and running them from there with either VMPlayer or VirtualBox 3.2 for OSX or Ubuntu The common interface is provided by the virtual host. (Note: this also works for Windoz XP Pro.: It does not need to be re-authorized as it senses no change when run on another OS and/or PC due to t6he common interface provided by the virtual host.) Please test it really works well. Tom Gilliard satellit Yes. This is a common feature of all USB bootable Linux builds. Therefore the instructions for doing so are no longer Mac specific, but rather generic. A virtual host emulates a common environment. ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [soas] [IAEP] Running_Soas_files_on_a_2nd_USB_in_Virtualbox_3.2_installed_on_the_MacBook_Air
I have been experimenting with my MacBook Air with Virtualbox 3.2 installed. I have discovered a neat way to answer http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/598: Another suggestion: Put the individual Student's Virtual Machine Appliance on a their USB stick and open it from the Mac or Windoz machine running VMplayer or Virtualbox.( Note that USB sticks are about 10x slower than HD install.) Then the student can open it on any machine at home or school. Plus the Appliance can be copied (or exported in Latest Virtualbox) from the stick for a backup. Please look at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Running_Soas_files_on_a_2nd_USB_in_Virtualbox_3.2_installed_on_the_MacBook_Air This wiki page also investigates making a 4 GB live USB of F14-desktop-live with Virtualbox3.2 pre installed, that runs various students Soas files from a personalized 2nd USB. Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit on IRC freenode #sugar ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.
Raffael Reichelt wrote: 2010/11/22 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Raffael Reichelt raffael.reich...@googlemail.com wrote: Great, works fine on my old VAIO Notebook. Is the Kickstart-File for this Image available? Is it only a test or is someone willing to maintain it? Raffael The SoaS-4 kick start is part of the Fedora 14 kick start files. You can install it on a Fedora 14 machine by doing yum install spin-kickstarts Peter You may want to look at at: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Build_Your_Own_Remix Tom Gilliard satellit 2010/11/3 Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com Great News; Fedora-14-x86_64-Live-SoaS CD Boots fine on an Apple MacBook Air with an external hp-DVD/CD usb drive. Hold C and tap power button keep holding the C key down until the blue fedora boot screen appears Select Boot (Basic Video)-second line boots to bar display Fedora 14; (Name_); Choose password for new keyring; hit cancel 6 times. F3 Ring appears Use the usb to cat 5 Air dongle ( applesmc.78) as Network Manager does not recognize the Mac Air's wireless hardware. f1 neighborhood will be full of xxx...@jabber.sugarlabs.org names To fix this go to drop down / My settings /About me. change colors and restart. On restart the names will be correct. ONLY IF you enter the key chain password you entered 1 time when you started sugar. These are known bugs http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_Bugs#Current_Bugs ALSO There is a new Boot CD for Macs and computers that cannot boot from USB Boot helper CD for Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS: http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso Matt On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Matt Wronkiewicz m...@wronkiewicz.net wrote: If anyone else is interested, I put together a boot helper for Mirabelle. Burned to a CD, it enabled booting a USB stick on my MacBook Pro. The stick was partitioned with the plain old MBR format and labeled FEDORA. I also got both VMware Fusion and VirtualBox to boot the USB stick using this boot helper ISO. The soas-2-boot ISO sort of works with Mirabelle sticks, but they have different kernel versions so modules don't load, thus no networking. That is fixed in this build. http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-3-boot-test.iso Matt Please Test these result on other MAC's and report here in wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick_release_process#Macintosh_Testing Congratulations to all Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, This is the non announcement announcement of the release of Sugar on a Stick 4 Mango Lassi is out. You can download both the 32 and 64 bit version from http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ There's an outline of some common bugs in Fedora 14 and hence Fedora 14 outlined here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F14_bugs Some of the notable enhancements include: - Sugar 0.90 - Support for more wireless adapters including the rtl2xxx series of adapters that are common in eee PCs - Improved Apple Mac support (still needs SoaS verification as apparently its a major problem but I could only find Fedora people to test it for me) - Quite a lot of things that I can't remember I would like to thank Sebastian, Mel, Simon, Thomas and everyone else who has contributed to this release. Cheers, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas Sorry Peter, but my message was misleading i think. I was talking about the boot helper CD. By the way: I just prepared fedora-livecd-soas-de_DE.ks and it worked fine. Does it make sense to include it in the kickstarts repository (like for all the other localized Spins)? One more: With my image i still get this annoying password dialog (5 times) did I miss something or is it really not fixed now? Raffael https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649013 ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [ASLO] [PUBLIC] IRC-8
I just tested the IRC-8 from ASLO. (ACER Aspire One with 2 GB USB of F14-desktop ( sugar 0.90.1) with yum groupinstall sugar-desktop.) gdm booted to sugar and downloaded IRC-8 from ASLO Fixes work. I can /join a 2nd channel and change my IRC name and it shuts down and resumes with the same settings. Thanks satellit Sugar Labs Activities wrote: Activity IRC-8 have been made public by a Sugar Labs Activities editor. Review Information: Reviewer: Comments: Trusted activity If you have questions about this review, please answer to this e-mail or join #sugar on chat.freenode.net. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ ASLO mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/aslo ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] IRC-7 on updated Soas-v3-mirabelle possible Bug?
Hello: alsroot said to contact you about the Control Panel Activity upgrade to IRC-7 I just did for Soas-v3-Mirabelle in Virtual box on a MacBook Air. IRC -7 works well as it starts in #sugar. I can talk/receive then I do a /join #sugar-meeting. and it talks I then shut down the activity. I then resume the activity. The 2 tabs show but i get a */no one to talk to message. And though the logins show on IRC on another PC with XChat, My typed messages do not. Fix is to exit and do a Start New for IRC. Then I get #sugar only and I can talk. Any thing you can do about this would be appreciated. Cordially; Tom Gilliard satellit on freenode #sugar IRC Bend, Or. USA In IRC-6 I used to use gedit to add lines to IRC.py for other channels and it worked as a workaround for multiple channels on startup; as the checkbox on the tab (rt click) never functioned . This seems to be completely different in your rewrite. Where would one add his user name/ IRC server and channel list, if he wanted to manually edit IRC-7? ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.
On 11/18/10 6:53 PM, DancesWithCars wrote: This has probably been mentioned elsewhere, but is there a Sugar/ soas on Mac list? Soas-v3 and Soas v4 (Fedora-14-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso) CD boots on MacBook Air for me: Need cat5 MacAir specific USB Network Dongle for networking Also works in VirtualBox for OSX 3.2 installs with livinst command in terminal advantage: Wireless works thru Virtualbox http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Mac#4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick_release_process#CD_Boots (then it can be put to marketing list, when many people know it works ;-/ ) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:48 PM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: I tried with two identical flashdrives, same process. With one it boots uninterrupted now. The second one needs the shift-prompt-linux0 routine. Don't ask me why. I will post up to that effect on the bug report Anyway, it's great to see the new release, well done all involved. David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link -Original Message- From: 'Martin Dengler' [mailto:mar...@martindengler.com] Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 9:47 p.m. To: David Leeming Cc: 'Art Hunkins'; 'Thomas C Gilliard'; 'Development of live Sugar distributions' Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 08:33:16PM +1000, David Leeming wrote: Martin thanks, Pressing shift at boot time was the missing info that I needed. It works OK. So now it boots?! Interesting. If you have time I'm sure people on that bug report would love to know any/all messages you see that appear suspicious. Good to know it at least lets you boot, now. David Leeming Solomon Islands Rural Link Martin ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
[SoaS] AN IDEA, Live Portable USB Creating USB http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/842
Ticket #907 (new task) http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/842 AN IDEA A Live USB Creating USB for netbooks without a CD/DVD drive: Format a 8GB or 16Gb USB with 2 partitions. (gparted (Partition Manager) does this well) 4GB: /dev/sdb1 fat 16; Label=FEDORA; boot flag set 4GB or larger :/dev/sdb2 fat 32; Label=My Files Insert this 2 partition USB in your fedora desktop and start liveusb-creator select: Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Located on you Desktop set slider to 1200 persistence select /sdb1 Fedora USB Create Live USB Remove and insert this USB in your desktop and copy your soas live.iso's to the My Files USB (/dev/sd2) mounted on your desktop (this 2nd partition 4GB will hold at least 4 different live USB.iso's) It will also accept any other Data or files you want to store. remove USB ( eject both MY Files and Fedora USB's) Boot with the 2 partition Live USB yum install liveusb-creator start live usb creator on USB [BROWSE] /Computer/media//My Files/ .iso (open) [Target Device]select the target USB you inserted set [Persistence Storage] by moving slider [Create Live USB] *This 2 partition USB is a Portable Live USB Creator you can carry in your pocket* Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] AN IDEA, Live Portable USB Creating USB http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/842
OOps wrong link on Header sorry : / http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/907 is correct Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Ticket #907 (new task) http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/907 AN IDEA A Live USB Creating USB for netbooks without a CD/DVD drive: Format a 8GB or 16Gb USB with 2 partitions. (gparted (Partition Manager) does this well) 4GB: /dev/sdb1 fat 16; Label=FEDORA; boot flag set 4GB or larger :/dev/sdb2 fat 32; Label=My Files Insert this 2 partition USB in your fedora desktop and start liveusb-creator select: Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS.iso Located on you Desktop set slider to 1200 persistence select /sdb1 Fedora USB Create Live USB Remove and insert this USB in your desktop and copy your soas live.iso's to the My Files USB (/dev/sd2) mounted on your desktop (this 2nd partition 4GB will hold at least 4 different live USB.iso's) It will also accept any other Data or files you want to store. remove USB ( eject both MY Files and Fedora USB's) Boot with the 2 partition Live USB yum install liveusb-creator start live usb creator on USB [BROWSE] /Computer/media//My Files/ .iso (open) [Target Device]select the target USB you inserted set [Persistence Storage] by moving slider [Create Live USB] *This 2 partition USB is a Portable Live USB Creator you can carry in your pocket* Tom Gilliard satellit ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.
On 11/4/10 7:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Thomas C Gilliard satel...@bendbroadband.com wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: Please when detailing technical issues strip off non relevant lists so we don't spam them. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Raffael Reichelt raffael.reich...@googlemail.com wrote: Great! I just tried the 64bit version on my old MacBookAir and for the first time with SOAS it tries to boot. Thr bootsplash pops upand it is offrering thr bootmenu ... unfortunatly then nothing else happens. Is there a chance to get it to work completly? I would love it! That's a problem with the graphics mapping on the Apple devices. We need to add the details to the kernel to support it. If you can run the command that's provided in the following bug comment https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528232#c20 and the either add a comment to the bug with the details or provide the details here and we can organise to get the problem fixed. Peter Peter; Thanks for adding fix to the bug for Apple MacBook Air Works fine. : ) Now we need the wireless on it to work. Is the driver available? I am using the MacBook Air usb to Ethernet adapter for internet access. System Profiler/Network/Airport: Software Versions: Menu Extra: 6.2.1 (621.1) configd plug-in: 6.2.3 (623.2) System Profiler: 6.0 (600.9) Network Preference: 6.2.1 (621.1) AirPort Utility: 5.5.1 (551.19) IO80211 Family: 3.1.2 (312) Interfaces: en0: Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0xD1) Firmware Version:Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1) Locale: FCC Country Code:US Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165 Wake On Wireless:Supported Status: Connected Current Network Information: Apple Network xxx: PHY Mode:802.11g BSSID: 0:1e:52:79:fa:34 Channel: 6 Network Type:Infrastructure Security:WEP Signal / Noise: -27 dBm / -94 dBm Transmit Rate: 54 Tom Gilliard satellit can you do a lspci | grep Network and post the output. sh: lspci: command not found There are some that work and some that should work by Fedora 15, and some that I have no idea what the status is. Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
Re: [SoaS] SoaS 4 - Mango Lassi is out.
Great News; Fedora-14-x86_64-Live-SoaS CD Boots fine on an Apple MacBook Air with an external hp-DVD/CD usb drive. Hold C and tap power button keep holding the C key down until the blue fedora boot screen appears Select Boot (Basic Video)-second line boots to bar display Fedora 14; (Name_); Choose password for new keyring; hit cancel 6 times. F3 Ring appears Use the usb to cat 5 Air dongle ( applesmc.78) as Network Manager does not recognize the Mac Air's wireless hardware. f1 neighborhood will be full of xxx...@jabber.sugarlabs.org names To fix this go to drop down / My settings /About me. change colors and restart. On restart the names will be correct. ONLY IF you enter the key chain password you entered 1 time when you started sugar. These are known bugs http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_Bugs#Current_Bugs ALSO There is a new Boot CD for Macs and computers that cannot boot from USB Boot helper CD for Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS: http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso Matt On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Matt Wronkiewicz m...@wronkiewicz.net wrote: If anyone else is interested, I put together a boot helper for Mirabelle. Burned to a CD, it enabled booting a USB stick on my MacBook Pro. The stick was partitioned with the plain old MBR format and labeled FEDORA. I also got both VMware Fusion and VirtualBox to boot the USB stick using this boot helper ISO. The soas-2-boot ISO sort of works with Mirabelle sticks, but they have different kernel versions so modules don't load, thus no networking. That is fixed in this build. http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-3-boot-test.iso Matt Please Test these result on other MAC's and report here in wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick_release_process#Macintosh_Testing Congratulations to all Enjoy; Tom Gilliard satellit Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, This is the non announcement announcement of the release of Sugar on a Stick 4 Mango Lassi is out. You can download both the 32 and 64 bit version from http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ There's an outline of some common bugs in Fedora 14 and hence Fedora 14 outlined here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F14_bugs Some of the notable enhancements include: - Sugar 0.90 - Support for more wireless adapters including the rtl2xxx series of adapters that are common in eee PCs - Improved Apple Mac support (still needs SoaS verification as apparently its a major problem but I could only find Fedora people to test it for me) - Quite a lot of things that I can't remember I would like to thank Sebastian, Mel, Simon, Thomas and everyone else who has contributed to this release. Cheers, Peter ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
