I'm fine with that! Please do. Caryl
> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:22:06 +0100 > From: mar...@martindengler.com > To: cbige...@hotmail.com > CC: meta...@gmail.com; bogs...@pobox.com; s...@sugarlabs.org; > l...@faraone.cc; o...@sadeq.me.uk; bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu; > sdaly...@gmail.com; tabitha.ro...@gmail.com; dsd.o...@gmail.com; > hackerboymaya...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: As requested: RE: Thoughts on RE: SOAS decision panel : thoughts > > Any objections if I rudely post these discussions to the soas@ list? > So far attempts to get people to post to it seem to be meeting some > friction but nobody's telling me why. > > Martin > > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 06:36:19PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > > > SJ wrote: > > > > > > Caryl, your input on the recent thread on the soas-list would be > > > appreciated. I think Bill got some of this summary right, but some of > > > it needs to be clarified. (And I'm not sure that many of the people > > > who would like to *see* a 'set of versions that can be run on all > > > kinds of machines' understood the support costs and prioritization > > > required when saying that.) > > > > Hello All... > > > > Greetings from beautiful (50 years ago) Butte MT, the country's largest > > Superfund site. Over half the town has disappeared into the huge Berkeley > > Pit (open pit copper mine). What is left is very contaminated with metal > > dust and asbestos. > > > > But, enough of that. First I want to apologize for the flood of old > > messages from me that arrived this afternoon. They were sent 4 days ago on > > 9/28 when I was having trouble with my sign-up to the list. So today, they > > show up as sent at 2:04 p.m. MDT... I assure you not by me. I was riding > > down I-90 in MT far from any internet signal. Now, I still have the > > problem of getting 2 of everything sent to the [SoaS] list. > > > > So let's get back to the issues at hand. SJ asked me to go over the > > message I sent several days ago and clarify some of the things I wrote. > > > > Re: A new mailing list... a dead issue, we are already functioning on the > > regular [SoaS} list. > > > > Re: Several different distributions and if so, for what machines? > > > > This is a really huge issue. First of all, has anyone really done any > > research, even informal, to see what machines are used regularly in the > > schools? Probably not. Without this information, the question can't be > > answered in any meaningful way. > > > > There is a way that we could make this happen, thoughnot nearly soon > > enough, but better late than never. It would take some effort on the part > > of both Sugar Labs volunteers and OLPC volunteers. It goes like this: > > > > 1) Send representatives (preferably 2 or more) to every Tech Conference for > > educators that we can find. Take XOs and SoaS, Live CDs, SD cards and > > different non-XO machines to demonstrate that Sugar will run on them. > > People will be curious and want to try things. Set up in a booth if > > possible or in their internet cafe area (or do a presentation!). We may > > have to actually pay to attend. > > > > 2) Have a simple survey for educators to fill out asking what machines they > > have at their school, how many, how old, are there any plans to replace > > them, if yes, with what machines and, finally, how much use do they get and > > by who. While we are at it we might as well ask what level or subject they > > teach and what kinds of new programs would they like to have to use with > > their students. > > > > 3) If they have something that will run SoaS, a Live CD, or Sugar on a SD > > card, offer to help them download their own copy. Maybe even give away > > some Live CDs. > > > > I will be presenting at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair in mid-November. I will > > make up a survey like this and ask teachers to complete it. Can we get > > others to do the same sort of thing? Even just having a presence with a > > few XOs and other computers running Sugar for folks to try and getting them > > to fill out the survey would help a lot. Not a lot of prior prep needed for > > that! > > > > In other words, don't just guess what students and teachers need.. ask > > them. Until we do this, we are just taking wild stabs in the dark. Students > > and teachers won't care what we call the > > Sugar software they are using. They will just care that it is easy to use > > and works. > > > > Re: the XO-1 Glad to hear the batteries will be interchangable. That is > > one crisis we won't have to face. > > > > This might not be the right time and place to discuss activating the entire > > track pad, but someone else mentioned it and I thought it was a great idea. > > I still do. While some might think this is a topic for OLPC, I thought I > > read somewhere that it is a software matter. That could be a Sugar Labs > > project. > > > > Too long... and I will get 2 copies. > > > > Got to read all the other emails I got since yesterday. > > > > Thanks for reading! > > Caryl > > > > P.S. I did a reply all on this. If I missed anyone who should read it, > > please forward. Thanks! > >
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