[SOCIAL CREDIT] Two Points

2003-06-14 Thread Campbell Rayfield
If Bill Ryan does not agree that: 1. the gap between prices and incomes is made up by interest bearing debt created by the financial system. 2. that Social Credit advocates that this gap should be created as a dividend. Then we must ask: 1. Where does the B equivalent come from?

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread Keith Wilde
Dear Ekky, In reading over this archive of our exchange I note two points: (1) You haveimplicitly agreed with my initial observation that the "full employment" issue is an important element in the "anti-semitism" accusation against Social Credit. (2) There is a presumption in your remarks,

[SOCIAL CREDIT] Re: John Médaille's question

2003-06-14 Thread John Médaille
At 11:10 AM 6/13/2003 -0700, William B. Ryan wrote: The question was: Why are not 'B' payments regarded as an addition to purchasing power? The answer is very simple. First, the theorem as such is complex and can be discerned only through a thorough reading of the entirety of Douglas' work,

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Two Points

2003-06-14 Thread william_b_ryan
Douglas never said the "B equivalent" is created as an "interest bearing debt." In fact, Douglas never used the term "interest bearing debt." To prove me wrong find one instance from his thirty year public career where used the term. In *Economic Democracy* he referred to both "loan credit" and

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread william_b_ryan
Pretty kinky, yes, John, but it's the most powerful political block in the country. To them, most Christians are not Christians. To be a Christian you have to be born again. Jimmy Carter could give away the Panama Canal because the Rapture was coming soon so it wouldn't matter what happened

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread ThomsonHiyu
In a message dated 6/14/03 7:10:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -(Ekk)- Frankly speaking I don't see a way to escape the slanderous anti-Semitic label, since banking empires are the 'dark force' we oppose, and whatever the background of these powerful elites may be, it

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Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread ThomsonHiyu
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Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread Ekky Irion
Dear Keith, I'll have to admit that when you put it in such stark contrast it is a picture that canlook scary. Scary to myself, sinceuntil a couple of years ago before looking into the history of money/finance banking empires,mythinking on the 'conspiracy of control' was more in line

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread Keith Wilde
- Original Message - From: Ekky Irion To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War? Dear Keith, ..my believe is that bankers will use the anti-Semitic label because it is a handy

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Social Credit at War?

2003-06-14 Thread Victor Bridger
Four points. 1. Item 1 is absolute nonsense. The policy of full employment is simply a policy to ensure that everyone has a job irrespective of what that job is. the purpose for employment under the current system is to distribute incomes. for those with no job or chance of employment here