> That requires intervention prohibiting credit
> expansion.  It is a major contradiction in the so-
> called "libertarian" philosophy.

-->You are welcome to offer a quote, but again, if 
you disagree, perhaps you would simply offer a clear 
alternative. Maybe it is time for you to open one of 
those Mises books and look for the alleged "pro-
intervention" Mises political manifesto. You might 
find something interesting in the process.<--
-------------

The contradiction is they would prohibit fractional 
reserve banking and every creditary mechanism that 
evolved in the marketplace to facilitate transactions 
beyond simple one hundred percent backed gold 
certificates.  That prohibition is a restriction on 
the right to contract for future performance.  It's 
beyond me how that can be reconciled with 
libertarianism.  It is a contradiction--there's no 
way around it.
--


-->So? Mises certainly wrote a bit about fiat 
currencies pretending to be money (that is, people 
pretending or believing that they were money). If 
Rothbard was "too conservative," only recognizing 
gold, silver, and 100%-backed certificates of such as 
money,<--
------------

Actually, he would only permit gold.  He would 
acquiesce to silver in the same manner that he 
acquiesced to free banking.
--


-->Your opinion is noted. Did you get my point, 
though?<--
----------

Probably not.  Will you restate it please?
--


-->Relative to growing a delicious mix of biodynamic 
salad greens, organizing a sporting event is not 
productive.<--
------------

That's your personal opinion.


-->How about if I knock a ball into the hole, then 
take it out, then knock it in another hole- all day 
long? What if ESPN broadcasts it across the globe to 
sell advertising for internet casinos by paying Jack 
Nickalaus to comment on my aim, swing, and fashion 
statements?<--
------------

That's your personal opinion.
--


-->Whatever, Bill. Anybody want some tickets to my 
next tournament? I'll even accept federal reserve 
notes.<--
------------

That means they have value.
--


-->And why do you do that? Did I say something that 
provoked you to criticize phraseology? That way, 
everyone can be clear on how not to provoke your 
criticism or my sarcasm and we can talk about like, 
um, how to apply the micromacro to the real world or 
something- if we weren't pretty much happy just 
chatting anyway- you know- what we would do if it 
wasn't raining- not that it is.<--
------------

This is not a chat group--it's a discussion group 
centered on the subject of social credit.  These are 
matters related to social credit.
--


-->Cool, Bill. After all this, I think we may 
actually be from the same planet.  I don't have 
empirical evidence of that though.<--
------------

Now who's being sarcastic?  Look, this is a 
discussion group.  There are various rhetorical tools 
to drive home points.  You are very thin skinned if 
you take any of it personally.
--


-->Science- isn't that the theory that if the earth 
is not flat, we will cut off your head?<--
------------

No.  It's a method to get to the truth.  Praxeology 
will never get there because it relies on articles of 
faith that allow no deviation.



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DATE: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:10:09 
From: Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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