Hi Philippe,

On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 09:00 +0400, philippe monroux wrote:
> De (from) (von) <b...@stsx.org> :
> 
> > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 19:43 +0100, 686f6c6d wrote:
> > > I do not fully understand the "remote rootfs/nfs" method you used (if
> > > you did, but I assume it from the discussion). Could you, for
> > > completeness, document what you did?
> 
> > If you have an NFS root available, you can boot the Soekris box from it
> > and install lilo onto the CF. Requires lilo on the NFS root + a chrooted
> > "apt-get install lilo" onto the CF's root partition + a 'lilo -C'
> > against the root partition. Make sure both lilo's are the same  version.
> 
> I understand that but it's not my installation method. Sorry but thanks.
> 
> > Using a Debian installer image you can install Debian directly onto the
> > CF after a TFTP boot, but I think you (Philippe) already did that.
> 
> Sure I do,
> 
> > Doesn't Debian have an option for installing lilo i.o. GRUB? 
> 
> no...only grub (is lilo old ?)

No, lilo is different. It finds the kernel by means of a CHS value
stored in the MBR (assuming that the BL lives there..). GRUB first finds
the first sector of partition to boot from through CHS. This contains
[part of] the secondary BL, which retrieves the kernel image through the
filesystem. 

That's why you can boot arbitrary images with GRUB but not with lilo.
But it's also the reason why more can go wrong with GRUB, e.g. with less
reliable CF cards. See the soekris-tech archives. To my knowledge you
won't find any 'lilo won't boot my Soekris box' postings in the
archives.

So GRUB and lilo are both useful depending on the context they are used
in. But GNU/Linux people just like to "obsolete" stuff:). In this case
pointing out the fact that these are different tools for different
purposes would have been more appropriate.

By the way, I think that if you lower the debconf priority level before
installing Debian ("append priority=high .." in the PXELinux config)
the installer will ask if you want to install lilo.


Bill

> >Can't remember, but I suspect it is possible (it isn't with a
> > standard Ubuntu, but that's Ubuntu..).
> > A colleague of mine once stated that he would never trust anything that
> > called itself Grand and Unified, he probably was right;)
> 
> Perhaps the solution is to install grub on the 1rst partition (that is
> not on the mbr). I'll try this
> 

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