Re: [Soekris] confused about installing pfSense on net6501

2012-03-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-02-29, Ovidiu Predescu ovi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Method 1: PXE install

 I first tried to use PXE to do the install. I have a small machine
 that runs dnsmasq as DHCP and TFTP server. I downloaded the
 pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.iso.gz and installed the contents of the
 file in a directory accessible to the TFTP server. I'm serving the
 boot/pxeboot file from the tftp server. The net6501 box finds the
 pxeboot file, but it gets stuck shortly after:

 Building the boot loader arguments
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader

 It looks like the next load phase never happens.

I don't know the FreeBSD/pfSense boot process particularly well,
but that seems like it most likely *is* booting, just isn't using
the serial console. Look for a boot-loader parameter to adjust this.


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Re: [Soekris] confused about installing pfSense on net6501

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Guerra
Make sure you are using a version of the pfSense installer that works well with 
a serial console, as is the case with Soekris Devices. 

Here's where I downloaded the image:

http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/
http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/pfSense-memstick-serial-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.img.gz

- I then plugged in the USB drive to my mac.
- Then I used a combination of gzcat and dd to write the downloaded image to 
the USB
(ref http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/HOWTO_Install_pfSense#Mac_OS_X )

  gzcat pfsense-embedded.img.gz | dd of=/dev/disk[n] bs=16k

(where n = the drive # corresponding to your USB drive)

- unmount the USB drive from your PC
- connect up the serial cable to your PC
- load drivers (if needed) to get the serial cable to work
- Start up your soekris, and change the default connection speed to 9600 N1
- Reboot the device
- Set your serial terminal program to 9600 N1
-   connect the USB drive  to the external USB connector on your Soekris
- Watch for control-P to be displayed, then press it on your PC . This will 
bring the Soekris into terminal mode
- Type - boot 81 - to have the soekris boot from the USB drive
- The PfSense installer when then start...


Robert


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On 2012-03-01, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:

 On 2012-02-29, Ovidiu Predescu ovi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Method 1: PXE install
 
 I first tried to use PXE to do the install. I have a small machine
 that runs dnsmasq as DHCP and TFTP server. I downloaded the
 pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.iso.gz and installed the contents of the
 file in a directory accessible to the TFTP server. I'm serving the
 boot/pxeboot file from the tftp server. The net6501 box finds the
 pxeboot file, but it gets stuck shortly after:
 
 Building the boot loader arguments
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader
 
 It looks like the next load phase never happens.
 
 I don't know the FreeBSD/pfSense boot process particularly well,
 but that seems like it most likely *is* booting, just isn't using
 the serial console. Look for a boot-loader parameter to adjust this.
 
 
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Re: [Soekris] confused about installing pfSense on net6501

2012-03-01 Thread Don Rhodes
I had trouble getting pfsense onto and booting on a 5501 (CF card in
this case) and when I did get it to work I followed the instructions
on the following pages; hopefully they are helpful for a 6501.

http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/HOWTO_Install_pfSense#Windows  (for
the life of me I could not get the image onto the CF card correctly in
Linux)
And most importantly used http://m0n0.ch/wall/physdiskwrite.php to get
the image written to the CF card (I would assume it would work just
fine with a USB drive.

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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Robert Guerra rgue...@privaterra.org wrote:
 Make sure you are using a version of the pfSense installer that works well 
 with a serial console, as is the case with Soekris Devices.

 Here's where I downloaded the image:

 http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/
 http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/pfSense-memstick-serial-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.img.gz

 - I then plugged in the USB drive to my mac.
 - Then I used a combination of gzcat and dd to write the downloaded image to 
 the USB
 (ref http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/HOWTO_Install_pfSense#Mac_OS_X )

      gzcat pfsense-embedded.img.gz | dd of=/dev/disk[n] bs=16k

 (where n = the drive # corresponding to your USB drive)

 - unmount the USB drive from your PC
 - connect up the serial cable to your PC
 - load drivers (if needed) to get the serial cable to work
 - Start up your soekris, and change the default connection speed to 9600 N1
 - Reboot the device
 - Set your serial terminal program to 9600 N1
 -   connect the USB drive  to the external USB connector on your Soekris
 - Watch for control-P to be displayed, then press it on your PC . This will 
 bring the Soekris into terminal mode
 - Type - boot 81 - to have the soekris boot from the USB drive
 - The PfSense installer when then start...


 Robert


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 On 2012-03-01, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:

 On 2012-02-29, Ovidiu Predescu ovi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Method 1: PXE install

 I first tried to use PXE to do the install. I have a small machine
 that runs dnsmasq as DHCP and TFTP server. I downloaded the
 pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.iso.gz and installed the contents of the
 file in a directory accessible to the TFTP server. I'm serving the
 boot/pxeboot file from the tftp server. The net6501 box finds the
 pxeboot file, but it gets stuck shortly after:

 Building the boot loader arguments
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader

 It looks like the next load phase never happens.

 I don't know the FreeBSD/pfSense boot process particularly well,
 but that seems like it most likely *is* booting, just isn't using
 the serial console. Look for a boot-loader parameter to adjust this.


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Re: [Soekris] confused about installing pfSense on net6501

2012-03-01 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Stuart, this is a good point. I did some research and it appears this
is the case. I found this document very useful:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

Too bad I found about it after installing it the hard way :( I might
give it a try just for the kicks.

Thanks,
Ovidiu

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:
 On 2012-02-29, Ovidiu Predescu ovi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Method 1: PXE install

 I first tried to use PXE to do the install. I have a small machine
 that runs dnsmasq as DHCP and TFTP server. I downloaded the
 pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.iso.gz and installed the contents of the
 file in a directory accessible to the TFTP server. I'm serving the
 boot/pxeboot file from the tftp server. The net6501 box finds the
 pxeboot file, but it gets stuck shortly after:

 Building the boot loader arguments
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader

 It looks like the next load phase never happens.

 I don't know the FreeBSD/pfSense boot process particularly well,
 but that seems like it most likely *is* booting, just isn't using
 the serial console. Look for a boot-loader parameter to adjust this.


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Re: [Soekris] confused about installing pfSense on net6501

2012-03-01 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Robert, thanks! It looks like none of the official mirrors have the
-serial version:

http://www.pfsense.org/mirror.php?section=downloads

Ovidiu

2012/3/1 Robert Guerra rgue...@privaterra.org:
 Make sure you are using a version of the pfSense installer that works well 
 with a serial console, as is the case with Soekris Devices.

 Here's where I downloaded the image:

 http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/
 http://files.chi.pfsense.org/jimp/pfSense-memstick-serial-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.img.gz

 - I then plugged in the USB drive to my mac.
 - Then I used a combination of gzcat and dd to write the downloaded image to 
 the USB
 (ref http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/HOWTO_Install_pfSense#Mac_OS_X )

      gzcat pfsense-embedded.img.gz | dd of=/dev/disk[n] bs=16k

 (where n = the drive # corresponding to your USB drive)

 - unmount the USB drive from your PC
 - connect up the serial cable to your PC
 - load drivers (if needed) to get the serial cable to work
 - Start up your soekris, and change the default connection speed to 9600 N1
 - Reboot the device
 - Set your serial terminal program to 9600 N1
 -   connect the USB drive  to the external USB connector on your Soekris
 - Watch for control-P to be displayed, then press it on your PC . This will 
 bring the Soekris into terminal mode
 - Type - boot 81 - to have the soekris boot from the USB drive
 - The PfSense installer when then start...


 Robert


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 Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081
 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom
 Email: rgue...@privaterra.org

 On 2012-03-01, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote:

 On 2012-02-29, Ovidiu Predescu ovi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Method 1: PXE install

 I first tried to use PXE to do the install. I have a small machine
 that runs dnsmasq as DHCP and TFTP server. I downloaded the
 pfSense-2.0.1-RELEASE-i386.iso.gz and installed the contents of the
 file in a directory accessible to the TFTP server. I'm serving the
 boot/pxeboot file from the tftp server. The net6501 box finds the
 pxeboot file, but it gets stuck shortly after:

 Building the boot loader arguments
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader

 It looks like the next load phase never happens.

 I don't know the FreeBSD/pfSense boot process particularly well,
 but that seems like it most likely *is* booting, just isn't using
 the serial console. Look for a boot-loader parameter to adjust this.


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[Soekris] net6501: are the E6xx LVDS pins available as pads anywhere?

2012-03-01 Thread Andrew
Hi, I've been looking into upgrading my aging firewall from a pentium-m 
running FBSD 4+ to something more recent.

Since I've stumbled over the net6501, I have tried researching it as 
much as possible.  My firewall is also my GPS strat-1 NTP server, UPS 
monitor and DHCP server, among other services.  Because I use a KVM to 
switch VGA between servers, I am looking at a simple VGA solution for 
the net6501.  Options using the PCIe x1 are constrained by Intel's 
crippling of the bus to version 1.0a - the AMD FirePro 2270 x1 is PCIe 
2.1, the nVidia Quadro series is PCIe 2.0, and HIS ATI Radeon HD5450 is 
2.0 (as well as doubling the power requirements).  The onboard Atom E6xx 
does include Intel's third tier graphics on the die, with separate pipes 
to LVDS and SDVO outputs.  Converting LVDS to VGA is a simple $30 
problem.  Does anyone know if the LVDS signal are exposed as pads or are 
the balls not connected?

Additionally, looking at the EG20T datasheet, it appears that only UART0 
includes hardware handshake signals (8-wire interface).  The other 3 
UARTS only bring out Rx  Tx signals (2-wire interface).  This gets to 
be a problem implementing a PPS NTP kernel which requires the handshake 
lines, unless the console serial port is not UART0.  Or the internal 
video is available (and, obviously, the BIOS supports it, ugh).

Finally, there are 4 other USB ports implemented in the EG20T - are pads 
for them available anywhere?

Thanks-

Andrew


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Re: [Soekris] net6501: are the E6xx LVDS pins available as pads anywhere?

2012-03-01 Thread Soren Kristensen
Hi Andrew,

Andrew wrote:
 Hi, I've been looking into upgrading my aging firewall from a pentium-m
 running FBSD 4+ to something more recent.

 Since I've stumbled over the net6501, I have tried researching it as
 much as possible.  My firewall is also my GPS strat-1 NTP server, UPS
 monitor and DHCP server, among other services.  Because I use a KVM to
 switch VGA between servers, I am looking at a simple VGA solution for
 the net6501.  Options using the PCIe x1 are constrained by Intel's
 crippling of the bus to version 1.0a - the AMD FirePro 2270 x1 is PCIe
 2.1, the nVidia Quadro series is PCIe 2.0, and HIS ATI Radeon HD5450 is
 2.0 (as well as doubling the power requirements).  The onboard Atom E6xx
 does include Intel's third tier graphics on the die, with separate pipes
 to LVDS and SDVO outputs.  Converting LVDS to VGA is a simple $30
 problem.  Does anyone know if the LVDS signal are exposed as pads or are
 the balls not connected?

The net6501 does not support video or keyboard at all.

 Additionally, looking at the EG20T datasheet, it appears that only UART0
 includes hardware handshake signals (8-wire interface).  The other 3
 UARTS only bring out Rx  Tx signals (2-wire interface).  This gets to
 be a problem implementing a PPS NTP kernel which requires the handshake
 lines, unless the console serial port is not UART0.  Or the internal
 video is available (and, obviously, the BIOS supports it, ugh).

Console Serial port on db9 connector is COM1 on LPC interface.
Internal Serial port on 10 pin header is UART0 on the EG20T.
Both with full handshake.

 Finally, there are 4 other USB ports implemented in the EG20T - are pads
 for them available anywhere?

Two USB ports goes to the mini PCIe slots.
Two USB ports goes the the standard 10 pin USB header JP4.


Best Regards,


Soren Kristensen

CEO  Chief Engineer
Soekris Engineering, Inc.
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Re: [Soekris] net6501: are the E6xx LVDS pins available as pads anywhere?

2012-03-01 Thread Jed Clear
On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Andrew andrew_soek...@16paws.com wrote:

 Hi, I've been looking into upgrading my aging firewall from a pentium-m 
 running FBSD 4+ to something more recent.
 
 Since I've stumbled over the net6501, I have tried researching it as 
 much as possible.  My firewall is also my GPS strat-1 NTP server, UPS 
 monitor and DHCP server, among other services.  Because I use a KVM to 
 switch VGA between servers, I am looking at a simple VGA solution for 
 the net6501.  Options using the PCIe x1 are constrained by Intel's 
 crippling of the bus to version 1.0a - the AMD FirePro 2270 x1 is PCIe 
 2.1, the nVidia Quadro series is PCIe 2.0, and HIS ATI Radeon HD5450 is 
 2.0 (as well as doubling the power requirements).  The onboard Atom E6xx 
 does include Intel's third tier graphics on the die, with separate pipes 
 to LVDS and SDVO outputs.  Converting LVDS to VGA is a simple $30 
 problem.  Does anyone know if the LVDS signal are exposed as pads or are 
 the balls not connected?
 
 Additionally, looking at the EG20T datasheet, it appears that only UART0 
 includes hardware handshake signals (8-wire interface).  The other 3 
 UARTS only bring out Rx  Tx signals (2-wire interface).  This gets to 
 be a problem implementing a PPS NTP kernel which requires the handshake 
 lines, unless the console serial port is not UART0.  Or the internal 
 video is available (and, obviously, the BIOS supports it, ugh).

I've had no problems with a Garmin GPS 18 LVC feeding a PPS FreeBSD kernel via 
the internal serial port's DCD pin on my 5501. Based on Soren's response, it 
sounds like the 6501 is similarly endowed. 

-Jed
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Re: [Soekris] net6501: are the E6xx LVDS pins available as pads anywhere?

2012-03-01 Thread RSL
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 03:28:47PM -1000, Andrew wrote:
 Hi, I've been looking into upgrading my aging firewall from a pentium-m 
 running FBSD 4+ to something more recent.
 
 Since I've stumbled over the net6501, I have tried researching it as 
 much as possible.  My firewall is also my GPS strat-1 NTP server, UPS 
 monitor and DHCP server, among other services.  Because I use a KVM to 
 switch VGA between servers, I am looking at a simple VGA solution for 
 the net6501. 
 [...] 
 Thanks-
 
 Andrew
 
If you only need VGA, mouse  and KB to manage your system within a text
console using a KVM, I suggest you take a look at http://www.microvga.com/
They produce a small and cheap (VGA + 2x PS/2 connectors) - (RS232)
conversion module that could solve one of your problem.

RSL
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