Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture than before: A1 -. RFC6145-host| .-- 4rd BR --. | || A2 -:--(v6net)--::--(v4 Internet)--- B 4rd-CE| |

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture than before: A1 -. RFC6145-host| .-- 4rd BR --. | || A2 -:--(v6net)--:

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture than before: A1 -. RFC6145-host| .-- 4rd BR --. | ||

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 06:19, Maoke a écrit : Remi, please see inline. 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, First: - My apologies for having not answered this email before receiving a reminder (it was by mistake lost in a stack of non-urgent things to do). - Thanks

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 10:21, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture than before: A1 -. RFC6145-host|

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 06:19, Maoke a écrit : Remi, please see inline. 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, First: - My apologies for having not answered this email before receiving a reminder (it was by mistake lost in a

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 10:21, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture than before:

Re: [Softwires] MAP and 4rd - Relationship with Single translation

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Hi, Xing, I look forward to face to face discussions in Paris if we don't clarify everything before that (I will be busy on something else in the next 3 days). Le 2012-03-18 à 23:39, Xing Li a écrit : ... A key point is that 4rd doesn't prevent a 4rd-capable dual-stack CE node, when it

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6 domain; router R1 here) BR (IPv4 Internet; router R2 here)--- B ... 4rd-u isn't concerned with what happens between A and CE. There, internal hosts have RFC1918 addresses and external

Re: [Softwires] MAP and 4rd - Relationship with Single translation

2012-03-19 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
I am well aware of this, but this doesn't explain why 4rd mapping rules similar to those of CERNET2 wouldn't have, like MAP-T, IPv4 to IPv6 communication (single translation) supported. As said in RFC6219, CERNET hosts have their IPv6 addresses configured via manual configuration or

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6 domain; router R1 here) BR (IPv4 Internet; router R2 here)--- B ... 4rd-u isn't concerned with what happens between A and CE. There,

Re: [Softwires] MAP and 4rd - Relationship with Single translation

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Hi, Rajiv, Le 2012-03-19 à 15:16, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) a écrit : I am well aware of this, but this doesn't explain why 4rd mapping rules similar to those of CERNET2 wouldn't have, like MAP-T, IPv4 to IPv6 communication (single translation) supported. As said in RFC6219, CERNET hosts

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 15:30, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6 domain; router R1 here) BR (IPv4 Internet; router R2 here)--- B ... 4rd-u isn't

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/20 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 15:30, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6 domain; router R1 here) BR (IPv4 Internet;

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Maoke
2012/3/20 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 15:30, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6 domain; router R1 here) BR (IPv4 Internet;

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-19 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 16:08, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/20 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 15:30, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw an example for that: A --- CE (IPv6

[Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rd…

2012-03-19 Thread Alain Durand
Dear wg, After a number of discussions with my co-chair, our AD and various authors, here is how we would like to move forward wrt 4rd. 1) There is an observation that all the solutions on the table E, T U actually solve the stateless problem we started with. There are differences, but