Re: [Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rdŠ

2012-03-24 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-23 à 10:28, Ole Trøan a écrit : Yiu, I have to admit that I am not IPv6 protocol expert. I guess Remi took the fragmentation header and overload it for his design. Say he defines a new extension called transition extension, I would guess it would no longer overload the

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-24 Thread Rémi Després
2012-03-19 11:44, Maoke: 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 10:21, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke, Let me try a more complete picture

[Softwires] Demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02 -- Sunday 25th from 15h30 to 17h00 room #201 at IETF in Paris

2012-03-24 Thread Alistair Woodman
All, you are cordially invited. Francis Dupont, Paul Selkirk and Alain Durant are hosting a live demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02. The following will be shown: 1) Stateless DS-Lite 2) Stateless CPE B4 NAT 3) Anycast Failover 4) DHCPv4 proxy over v6 5) NAT Port range

Re: [Softwires] 4rd-u tunnels and stateful NAT64s

2012-03-24 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-03-19 à 11:44, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 10:21, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 09:16, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/16 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Maoke,

Re: [Softwires] Demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02 -- Sunday 25th from 15h30 to 17h00 room #201 at IETF in Paris

2012-03-24 Thread Francis Dupont
Durand with a 'd' (as sensible as Dupont with a 't' :-)! Francis Dupont fdup...@isc.org ___ Softwires mailing list Softwires@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Peng Wu
Hi Alain, Same question I raised in the other thread. 1) So this table is fully static, and we don't consider user entering or leaving which may affect the bindings. Instead, the bindings only rely on the addresses which won't change along the time. 2) Then this falls in the manner of

Re: [Softwires] Demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02 -- Sunday 25th from 15h30 to 17h00 room #201 at IETF in Paris

2012-03-24 Thread Peng Wu
Great. So ISC already has DHCPv4 over IPv6 implementation now. //Pity I couldn't make it on Sunday. 2012/3/25 Alistair Woodman awood...@isc.org: All, you are cordially invited… Francis Dupont, Paul Selkirk and Alain Durant are hosting a live demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02. The

Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast-01.txt

2012-03-24 Thread Tina TSOU
Sounds like a logical step forward. This should be an applicability statement for the Mboned-defined AF for a 4-6-4 network scenario. Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Lee, Yiu yiu_...@cable.comcast.com wrote: Good feed back. We started to address dslite and like what you said

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Qiong
Hi Alain, Thanks a lot for your explaination. It is much clearer now. Please see inline ~~ On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Alain Durand adur...@juniper.net wrote: On Mar 23, 2012, at 4:22 AM, Qiong wrote: Dear Alain and all, I'm trying to understand sd-nat-02 and I'm still wondering

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Alain Durand
On Mar 24, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Peng Wu wrote: Hi Alain, Same question I raised in the other thread. 1) So this table is fully static, and we don't consider user entering or leaving which may affect the bindings. Instead, the bindings only rely on the addresses which won't change along the

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Alain Durand
On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Qiong wrote: \ I'm trying to understand sd-nat-02 and I'm still wondering how to setup subscriber-based binding table in sd-nat. In my understanding, a totally static binding table will introduce a lot of workload for operators. Not necessarily. Operators maintain

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Alain Durand
The per subscriber mapping table looks like: Subscriber ID (usually IPv6 address of CPE) Assigned IPv4 public address (the one assigned by DHCPv4 over IPv6) port range Alain On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Lee, Yiu wrote: Hi Alain, Quick question. What snag suggests to keep in the customer

Re: [Softwires] Demo of draft-penno-softwire-sdnat-02 -- Sunday 25th from 15h30 to 17h00 room #201 at IETF in Paris

2012-03-24 Thread Yong Cui
Thanks for the demo. Would you please also give a summary to the mailing list, especially for someone who cannot join the demo. Yong From: Alistair Woodman awood...@isc.org Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:37:53 -0700 To: softwires@ietf.org Cc: fdup...@isc.org Subject: [Softwires] Demo of

Re: [Softwires] Draft 4rd-u-05 is available

2012-03-24 Thread Maoke
2012/3/20 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 16:12, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/20 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 15:30, Maoke a écrit : 2012/3/19 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-19 à 11:38, Maoke a écrit : ... let me draw

Re: [Softwires] Path to move forward with 4rd…

2012-03-24 Thread Maoke
dear Remi, 2012/3/24 Rémi Després despres.r...@laposte.net Le 2012-03-22 à 15:40, Maoke a écrit : dear Alain, Yong, Ralph and all, in program, the effort of the MAP team should be respected. The formation of the MAP team was also the consensus of our meeting in beijing and we have seen

Re: [Softwires] [Softwire] Algorithmic feature for SD-NAT

2012-03-24 Thread Peng Wu
Hi Alain, Thanks. It really helps. Configuration for every IPv6 subscriber, not every possible IPv6 address in the various /64 This is actually not that bad. Compare to BNGs that do the same and more today for IPv4 or IPv6. In the end, this is about clustering subscribers on groups of