Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 27, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote: Well, for long-hanging fruit (autumn Virginia apples): uh, it's been a "long" day: but i meant low-hanging fruit. * In a read-only fashion, everything from stats.jsp and regis

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 27, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: On 9/27/06 9:07 AM, "Simon Willnauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: First I agree with yonik, the main point is to define which classes / parts / mbeans should be exposed to JMX is the hard part and should be planned carefully. That is t

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Walter Underwood
On 9/27/06 9:07 AM, "Simon Willnauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First I agree with yonik, the main point is to define which classes / > parts / mbeans should be exposed to JMX is the hard part and should be > planned carefully. That is the hard part regardless of whether we use JMX or bare-me

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 27, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote: Erik, am I get you right that you want to connect to jmx via an extern webapplication which acts as an admin interface (written in ruby or whatever) or are you pointing to a http/XML connector for jmx? Right. I'd love to provide Solr applic

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Simon Willnauer
First I agree with yonik, the main point is to define which classes / parts / mbeans should be exposed to JMX is the hard part and should be planned carefully. I could imagine a very flexible layer between jmx and solr using 1.5 annotations and an integration of commons-modeler. Erik, am I get yo

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Erik Hatcher
Ah, so I'm beginning to get it. If we build Solr with JMX support, the admin HTTP/XML(err, Ruby) interface could be written into the JMX HTTP adapter as a separate web application, and allowing users to plug it in or not. If I'm understanding that correctly then I'm quite +1 on JMX! And

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/27/06, Simon Willnauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: @Yonik: What are you interests in JMX? More standard & easier integration with many different tools (scripting languages, 3rd party consoles, etc). The hard part is figuring out exactly what should be exported as an MBean. -Yonik

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-27 Thread Simon Willnauer
@Otis: I suggest we go a bit more in detail about the features solr should expose via JMX and talk about the contribution. I'd love to extend solr with more JMX support. On 9/27/06, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/26/06, Otis Gospodnetic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other h

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-26 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/26/06, Otis Gospodnetic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On the other hand, some people I talked to also expressed interest in JMX, so I'd encourage Simon to make that contribution. I'm also interested in JMX. It has different adapters, including an HTTP one AFAIK, but I don't know how easy it

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-26 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
t can wait. There are other ways to secure a service from outsiders (but not insiders). Otis - Original Message From: Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:16:19 AM Subject: Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-26 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Subject: Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality : I think the majority of the clients for Solr will be non-Java, so : while a JMX interface would be valuable to some it wouldn't be as : generally useful to the majority of Solr users (my hunch). yeah ... the main reason i never personally lo

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-25 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I think the majority of the clients for Solr will be non-Java, so : while a JMX interface would be valuable to some it wouldn't be as : generally useful to the majority of Solr users (my hunch). yeah ... the main reason i never personally looked into adding more JMX hoks is that the people i de

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-25 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 9/23/06, Otis Gospodnetic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about another approach - expose all Solr admin data via HTTP/XML, just like it's done with search requests? Things like the "stats" page should already be XML with a stylesheet (for exactly the reasons you mention). IIRC, the XML may

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
I certainly agree that a JMX interface into Solr would be nice to have. [a different topic: I've also been thinking Solr under NetKernel would be a nice fit also] On Sep 24, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote: Also security / firewall doubts would not concern the core and its security

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 24, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On 9/24/06, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...perhaps some authentication/ authorization as well as HTTPS should eventually make it into the core, but getting more fine grained is unnecessary... If meaningful URLs are used (adm

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 9/24/06, Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...perhaps some authentication/ authorization as well as HTTPS should eventually make it into the core, but getting more fine grained is unnecessary... If meaningful URLs are used (admin/stats, admin/config, admin/analysis, etc.), it is relat

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-24 Thread Simon Willnauer
I followed the discussion the last 3 day and I still wondering why nobody turned up with an integration of solr monitoring and administration functionality using javas fantastic management extension JMX. I joined a team 2 years ago building a distributed webspider / searcher (similar to nutch). In

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Sep 23, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: How about another approach - expose all Solr admin data via HTTP/ XML, just like it's done with search requests? i think that would be fantastic. thinking of solr as a hard core service above and beyond lucene exposing all of its internal

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-23 Thread Chris Hostetter
y on the brwser to do XSLT if the client wants a "pretty" view. - Original Message From: Chris Hostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org; Otis Gospodnetic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:44:49 PM Subject: Re: Extending Solr

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-23 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:44:49 PM Subject: Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality : I may need to add functionality to Solr's admin pages. The : functionality that I'm looking to add is the ability to trigger certain : indexing functions and moni

Re: Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-22 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I may need to add functionality to Solr's admin pages. The : functionality that I'm looking to add is the ability to trigger certain : indexing functions and monitor their progress. I'm wondering if people : have thoughts about the best way to do this. Here are my initial ideas: : : 1. Add ad

Extending Solr's Admin functionality

2006-09-21 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hello, I may need to add functionality to Solr's admin pages. The functionality that I'm looking to add is the ability to trigger certain indexing functions and monitor their progress. I'm wondering if people have thoughts about the best way to do this. Here are my initial ideas: 1. Add add