Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-07 Thread andrey prokopenko
SolrCoud cluster heavily depends on data locality and high I/O, thus any NFS with access to disk array over the network is multitude times slower than direct I/O and must be avoided. Classical JBOD (just a bunch of disks) config + memory mapped files ensure high performance. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-05 Thread Toke Eskildsen
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 22:57 +0100, Gili Nachum wrote: My data center is out of SAN or local disk storage - is it a big no-no to store Solr core data folder over NAS? It depends on your NAS speed. Both Walter and David are right: It can perform really bad or quite satisfactory. We briefly

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-05 Thread Walter Underwood
My experience was with Solr 1.2 and regular old NFS, so that was probably worst case. I was very surprised that it was that bad, though. So benchmark it before you assume it is fast enough. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Nov 5, 2014, at 12:27

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-05 Thread Charlie Hull
In our experience yes, it's a bad idea. Charlie On 5 November 2014 10:27, Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org wrote: My experience was with Solr 1.2 and regular old NFS, so that was probably worst case. I was very surprised that it was that bad, though. So benchmark it before you assume

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-05 Thread Gili Nachum
So NFS it's doable, and performance will vary by the grade of storage I'm getting and the volume of other activity on the NAS. Good to know it's not attributed to index corruptions in Lucene (failures to sync to disk and such). Update: Turns out that someone did find 50TB over SAN laying around

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-05 Thread Toke Eskildsen
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 23:04 +0100, Gili Nachum wrote: Update: Turns out that someone did find 50TB over SAN laying around the data center for me to use, so I won't find out for my self how's life with NFS/NAS in the near future. There seems to be issues especially with NFS that you need to

A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-04 Thread Gili Nachum
My data center is out of SAN or local disk storage - is it a big no-no to store Solr core data folder over NAS? That means 1. Lucene index 2. Transaction log. The NAS mount would be accessed by a single machine. I do care about performance. If I do go with NAS. Should I expect index corruption

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-04 Thread Walter Underwood
I did that once by accident. It was 100X slower. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Gili Nachum gilinac...@gmail.com wrote: My data center is out of SAN or local disk storage - is it a big no-no to store Solr core data

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-04 Thread Jack Krupansky
: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS? My data center is out of SAN or local disk storage - is it a big no-no to store Solr core data folder over NAS? That means 1. Lucene index 2. Transaction log. The NAS mount would be accessed by a single machine. I do care about performance. If I

Re: A bad idea to store core data directory over NAS?

2014-11-04 Thread David Santamauro
Interestingly enough, one of our installations has a 16-node cluster using 4 NAS devices (xen as virtualization backbone). The data drive for the individual node that holds the index is a stripe of 2x 500GB disks. Each disk of the stripe is on a different NAS device (scattered pattern). With