RE: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-14 Thread Ard Schrijvers
Hello, When I had those kind of problems (less complex) with lucene, the only idea was to filter from the front-end, according to the ACL policy. Lucene docs and fields weren't protected, but tagged. Searching was always applied with a field audience, with hierarchical values like

RE: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-13 Thread Ard Schrijvers
Hello, Given the requirement to break down a document into separately controlled pieces, I'd create a servlet that fronts the Solr servlet and handles this conversion. I could think of ways to do it using Solr, but they feel like unnatural acts. As a general comment on ACLs, one

RE: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-13 Thread Ard Schrijvers
Hello, Hi And about the fields, if they are/aren't going to be present on the responses based on the user group, you can do it in many different ways (using XML transformation to remove the undesirable fields, implementing your own RequestHandler able to process your group

Re: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-13 Thread Frédéric Glorieux
Hello, With all do respect, I really think the problem is largely underestimated here, and is far more complex then these suggestions...unless we are talking about 100.000 documents, couple of users, and updating ones a day. If you want millions of documents, facetted authorized

indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-12 Thread Nathaniel A. Johnson
Hi all, Can anyone give me some advice on breaking a document up and indexing it by access control lists. What we have are xml documents that are transformed based on the user viewing it. Some users might see all of the document, while other may see a few fields, and yet others see nothing at

RE: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-12 Thread Ard Schrijvers
Hello Nate, IMHO, you will not be able to do this in solr unless you accept pretty hard constraints on your ACLs (I will get back to this in a moment). IMO, it is not possible to index documents along with ACLs. ACLs can be very fine grained, and the thing you describe, ACL specific parts of a

RE: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-12 Thread Ard Schrijvers
Excuse me, I meant solr ofcourse :-) For these reasons, I do not think you can achieve with solar

Re: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-12 Thread Ken Krugler
Hi all, Can anyone give me some advice on breaking a document up and indexing it by access control lists. What we have are xml documents that are transformed based on the user viewing it. Some users might see all of the document, while other may see a few fields, and yet others see nothing at

Re: indexing documents (or pieces of a document) by access controls

2007-06-12 Thread Daniel Alheiros
Hi And about the fields, if they are/aren't going to be present on the responses based on the user group, you can do it in many different ways (using XML transformation to remove the undesirable fields, implementing your own RequestHandler able to process your group information, filtering the