Re: Color search for images

2010-09-18 Thread Govind Kanshi
Not exactly sure how one would put context of what object is more dominant than other. Think of landscape with snow, green mountains and set of flowers of varied colors including a rose On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Shashi Kant sk...@sloan.mit.edu wrote: What I am envisioning (at

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-17 Thread Dennis Gearon
Subject: Re: Color search for images To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 7:58 PM On 9/16/2010 7:45 AM, Shashi Kant wrote: Lire is a nascent effort and based on a cursory overview a while back, IMHO was an over-simplified version of what a CBIR engine should

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-17 Thread Shashi Kant
What I am envisioning (at least to start) is have all this add two fields in the index.  One would be for color information for the color similarity search.  The other would be a simple multivalued text field that we put keywords into based on what OpenCV can detect about the image.  If it

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Li Li
do you mean content based image retrieval or just search images by tag? if the former, you can try LIRE 2010/9/15 Shawn Heisey s...@elyograg.org:  My index consists of metadata for a collection of 45 million objects, most of which are digital images.  The executives have fallen in love with

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Lance Norskog
Yes, notice the flowers are all a medium-dark crimson red. There are a bunch of these image-indexing search technologies, but there is no (to my knowledge) finished technology- it's very much an area of research. If you want to search the word 'flower' and index data that can find blobs of

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/15/2010 10:50 AM, Shashi Kant wrote: Shawn, I have done some research into this, machine-vision especially on a large scale is a hard problem, not to be entered into lightly. I would recommend starting with OpenCV - a comprehensive toolkit for extracting various features such as Color,

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Shashi Kant
Lire looks promising, but how hard is it to integrate the content-based search into Solr as opposed to Lucene?  I myself am not a Java developer.  I have access to people who are, but their time is scarce. Lire is a nascent effort and based on a cursory overview a while back, IMHO was an

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
EARTH has a Right To Life, otherwise we all die. Read 'Hot, Flat, and Crowded' Laugh at http://www.yert.com/film.php --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Shashi Kant sk...@sloan.mit.edu wrote: From: Shashi Kant sk...@sloan.mit.edu Subject: Re: Color search for images To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Dennis Gearon
: From: Shashi Kant sk...@sloan.mit.edu Subject: Re: Color search for images To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 6:36 AM On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:21 AM, Lance Norskog goks...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, notice the flowers are all a medium-dark crimson red

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-16 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/16/2010 7:45 AM, Shashi Kant wrote: Lire is a nascent effort and based on a cursory overview a while back, IMHO was an over-simplified version of what a CBIR engine should be. They use CEDD (color edge descriptors). Wouldn't work for the kind of applications I am working on - which needs

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-15 Thread Ken Krugler
On Sep 15, 2010, at 7:59am, Shawn Heisey wrote: My index consists of metadata for a collection of 45 million objects, most of which are digital images. The executives have fallen in love with Google's color image search. Here's a search for flower with a red color filter:

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-15 Thread Shashi Kant
Shawn, I have done some research into this, machine-vision especially on a large scale is a hard problem, not to be entered into lightly. I would recommend starting with OpenCV - a comprehensive toolkit for extracting various features such as Color, Edge etc from images. Also there is a project

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-15 Thread Shashi Kant
On a related note, I'm curious if anyone has run across a good set of algorithms (or hopefully a library) for doing naive image classification. I'm looking for something that can classify images into something similar to the broad categories that Google image search has (Face, Photo, Clip

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-15 Thread Dennis Gearon
'Hot, Flat, and Crowded' Laugh at http://www.yert.com/film.php --- On Wed, 9/15/10, Ken Krugler kkrugler_li...@transpac.com wrote: From: Ken Krugler kkrugler_li...@transpac.com Subject: Re: Color search for images To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 9:41 AM

Re: Color search for images

2010-09-15 Thread Shashi Kant
I'm sure there's some post doctoral types who could get a graphic shape analyzer, color analyzer, to at least say it's a flower. However, even Google would have to build new datacenters to have the horsepower to do that kind of graphic processing. Not necessarily true. Like.com - which

Re: Color search

2007-09-29 Thread Guangwei Yuan
can you you explain exactly how you are indexing the data and what your query looks like? I used the same field name (color), not 10 different names (c0 - c9). So the index fields look like (50% #00, 20% #99): color: #00 color: #00 color: #00 color: #00 color: #00

Re: Color search

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I used the same field name (color), not 10 different names (c0 - c9). ah .. got it. then what you are probably seeing is because of length normalization, if you use omitNorms=true then it shouldn't matter. (i don't know why i suggested a seperate field for each 10% block ... i'm sure i had

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Steven Rowe
Hi Guangwei, When you index your products, you could have a single color field, and include duplicates of each color component proportional to its weight. For example, if you decide to use 10% increments, for your black dress with 70% of black, 20% of gray, 10% of brown, you would index the

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Another option would be to extend Solr (and donate back) to incorporate Lucene's payload functionality, in which case you could associate the percentile of the color as a payload and use the BoostingTermQuery... :-) If you're interested in this, a discussion on solr-dev is probably

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Yonik Seeley
If it were just a couple of colors, you could have a separate field for each color and then index the percent in that field. black:70 grey:20 and then you could use a function query to influence the score (or you could sort by the color percent). However, this doesn't scale well to a large

RE: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Renaud Waldura
, September 28, 2007 7:14 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Color search Hi Guangwei, When you index your products, you could have a single color field, and include duplicates of each color component proportional to its weight. For example, if you decide to use 10% increments, for your black

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Steven Rowe
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:14 AM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Color search Hi Guangwei, When you index your products, you could have a single color field, and include duplicates of each color component proportional to its weight. For example, if you decide

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Matthew Runo
This discussion is incredibly interesting to me! We solved this simply by indexing the color names, and faceting on that. Not a very elegant solution, to be sure - but it works. If people search for a green running shoe they get -green- running shoes. I would be very very interested in

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Hostetter
: useful to search products by color. A product image can have up to 5 colors : (from a color space of about 100 colors), so we can implement it easily with : Solr's facet search (thanks all who've developed Solr). : : The problem arises when we try to sort the results by the color relevancy. :

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Mike Klaas
On 28-Sep-07, at 6:31 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: Another option would be to extend Solr (and donate back) to incorporate Lucene's payload functionality, in which case you could associate the percentile of the color as a payload and use the BoostingTermQuery... :-) If you're interested in

Re: Color search

2007-09-28 Thread Guangwei Yuan
Thanks for all the replies. I think creating 10 fields and feeding each field with a color's value for 10% from that color is a reasonable approach, and easy to implement too. One problem though, is that not all products have a total of 100% colors (due to various reasons including our color