Re: CVS commit: src/gnu

2009-11-12 Thread rjs
>On Thursday 12 November 2009 20:24:05 r...@fdy2.demon.co.uk wrote: >> Nick Hudson wrote: >> >Module Name:src >> >Committed By: skrll >> >Date: Sun Nov 8 15:25:10 UTC 2009 >> > >> >Modified Files: >> >src/gnu/lib: Makefile >> >src/gnu/usr.bin: Makefile >> >Removed

Re: CVS commit: src/gnu

2009-11-12 Thread Nick Hudson
On Thursday 12 November 2009 20:24:05 r...@fdy2.demon.co.uk wrote: > Nick Hudson wrote: > >Module Name:src > >Committed By: skrll > >Date: Sun Nov 8 15:25:10 UTC 2009 > > > >Modified Files: > >src/gnu/lib: Makefile > >src/gnu/usr.bin: Makefile > >Removed Files: > >

Re: CVS commit: src/gnu

2009-11-12 Thread David Young
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:24:05PM +, r...@fdy2.demon.co.uk wrote: > Please could ncdcs be restored, it isn't part of binutils and is > needed for NetBSD/ibmnws. It's in src/external/, now. Dave -- David Young OJC Technologies dyo...@ojctech.com Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933

Re: CVS commit: src/gnu

2009-11-12 Thread rjs
Nick Hudson wrote: >Module Name:src >Committed By: skrll >Date: Sun Nov 8 15:25:10 UTC 2009 > >Modified Files: >src/gnu/lib: Makefile >src/gnu/usr.bin: Makefile >Removed Files: [snip] >src/gnu/usr.sbin/ncdcs: Makefile ncdcs.8 ncdcs.c > >Log Message: >Remo

Re: Subject: CVS commit: src/share/mk

2009-11-12 Thread Matthias Scheler
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 07:19:55AM +, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius wrote: > * 5% performance hit on build.sh is not really a small number to me. I've disabled SSP again, the performance hit is gone. We can therefore stop this fruitless discussion. Kind regards -- Matthias Scheler

Re: Subject: CVS commit: src/share/mk

2009-11-12 Thread Matthias Scheler
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:40:54PM +, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius wrote: > Well, I do not really care about this type of philosophical security in the > kernel, but by estimating the effect, I would say there is more cost than > benefit - modern x86 machines have a PG_NX bit, which deals with this

Re: Subject: CVS commit: src/share/mk

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Husemann
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:40:54PM +, Mindaugas Rasiukevicius wrote: > benefit - modern x86 machines have a PG_NX bit, which deals with this matter > in a much better way. Non executable stack only takes care of some types of stack smashing attacks, the stack protector catches a lot more. Mar

Re: Subject: CVS commit: src/share/mk

2009-11-12 Thread Mindaugas Rasiukevicius
Matthias Scheler wrote: > > Point that it can find some bugs is reasonable, but then why not enable > > it for, let's say, DIAGNOSTIC option? > > Because it is also a security feature. I can e.g. turn a remote root > exploit into a DoS which will at least keep your data safe. > Well, I do not r