Re: catman (Was: CVS commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles)
On 08.11.2020 23:20, Valery Ushakov wrote: > It's (partially) past-tensed, which looks stupid and cripples the > joke. catman has zero to do with current UNIX or any other standard I checked (SVID, XPG, POSIX, XNS, SUS, ISO, ANSI). It was a historical utility. I've changed it to be relatively accurate for a historical reference to Unix/BSD. I object to calling it a current Unix thing and suggesting to users that they can find it in section 8. If catman(8) is still delivered somewhere, it is documenting a dead toy. On 09.11.2020 01:05, Thomas Klausner wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 12:46:42AM +0300, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote: >> Also, come to think of it... Removing catman (i.e. user's ability to >> generate cat pages) is rather different from removing MKCATPAGES, >> what's going on here? > > I asked kamil about something else on this topic and he mentioned > catman. On reading the man pages I didn't really see a reason for it > to stay if we remove the cat pages completely. > > Do you see it differently? If yes, why? > Thomas > catman is still reachable for users (I still have no evidence that I was not the last user of .cat pages in NetBSD) that really want it in contrib/ of mandoc, but out of the distribution. I'm still test-building the final removal and I will land it once I feel comfortable about it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: catman (Was: CVS commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles)
On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 12:46:42AM +0300, Valeriy E. Ushakov wrote: > Also, come to think of it... Removing catman (i.e. user's ability to > generate cat pages) is rather different from removing MKCATPAGES, > what's going on here? I asked kamil about something else on this topic and he mentioned catman. On reading the man pages I didn't really see a reason for it to stay if we remove the cat pages completely. Do you see it differently? If yes, why? Thomas
Re: catman (Was: CVS commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles)
On 08.11.2020 22:46, Valery Ushakov wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 17:37:30 +, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > >> Module Name: src >> Committed By:kamil >> Date:Sun Nov 8 17:37:30 UTC 2020 >> >> Modified Files: >> src/games/fortune/datfiles: fortunes >> >> Log Message: >> catman(8) is a past thing > > Please, revert this. It's completely irrelevant for the joke if > netbsd ships catman or not. > > Also, come to think of it... Removing catman (i.e. user's ability to > generate cat pages) is rather different from removing MKCATPAGES, > what's going on here? > > -uwe > catman(8) is to removed soon as discussed with wiz@. The fortune is still there, it's not removed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
catman (Was: CVS commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles)
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 17:37:30 +, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > Module Name: src > Committed By: kamil > Date: Sun Nov 8 17:37:30 UTC 2020 > > Modified Files: > src/games/fortune/datfiles: fortunes > > Log Message: > catman(8) is a past thing Please, revert this. It's completely irrelevant for the joke if netbsd ships catman or not. Also, come to think of it... Removing catman (i.e. user's ability to generate cat pages) is rather different from removing MKCATPAGES, what's going on here? -uwe
