Re: CVS commit: src

2009-03-22 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Thomas Klausner writes: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:15:54AM +0000, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Module Name: src >> Committed By:perry >> Date:Sat Mar 21 00:15:54 UTC 2009 >> >> Modified Files: >> src/crypto/dist/ssh: scp.1 sft

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/cdrom

2009-03-22 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ecent versions in pkgsrc won't work. Won't this result in even more mysterious failures? Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-24 Thread Perry E. Metzger
the last compile date. However, I'm not sure why one actively wants it given that you have all the rcsid's already in the binary. Also, why would one want it more in "make" than in any other program? Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-24 Thread Perry E. Metzger
David Holland writes: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:53:13AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > > However, I think you should put back the change to main.c that sets > > > MAKE_VERSION if passed on the command line; I suspect either pkgsrc > > > and/or sjg'

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-24 Thread Perry E. Metzger
David Holland writes: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:24:12AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > : > Well, remember make is an interpreter; the date goes into the make > > : > variable $(MAKE_VERSION) so the information is available to Makefiles. > > : > > : Yah, but it is largely worthless. Cons

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ate the *build* date. If you want it and you're willing to do the work, go for it. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-29 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Alistair Crooks writes: > This is veering off topic, I fear, but a datapoint: > > We used a mmdd-based time value for version numbering of the > pkg_install tools, derived from embedded RCS Ids, for years (to check > tools had sufficient features for what they were going to be asked to > do).

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-03-29 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Martin Husemann writes: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 02:59:59PM +, Christos Zoulas wrote: >> Or add some syntax to the file for optional assignments, like: >> >> ddb.onpanic?=1 >> or >> ddb.onpanic?ddb.onpanic=1 > > I like those two variants (not sure which one better). The second remi

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/make

2009-03-30 Thread Perry E. Metzger
> repeatable-builds supported > % echo $? > 0 > % make -Q me-a-crocodile-sandwich-and-make-it-snappy > me-a-crocodile-sanewich-and-make-it-snappy not supported > % echo $? > 1 > > i.e. de-couple the feature from the date. The two are obviously not related > in this

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/arch/i386/i386

2009-03-31 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ollowed, so the original code should have been normalized to the style guide. It would be okay to discuss changing the style guide, but that's a different issue. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/sets

2009-04-03 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Izumi Tsutsui writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: tsutsui > Date: Thu Apr 2 23:06:16 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/distrib/sets: maketars > > Log Message: > Explicitly sort entries on preparing set files from METALOG. > METALOG could have different order due to install

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/sets

2009-04-03 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Alan Barrett writes: > It would also make sense to add a sort option to mtree. Does mtree -C sort already? I haven't read the sources but it seems to rearrange what it is fed into a canonicalized order. Perry

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/sets

2009-04-03 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Alan Barrett writes: > On Fri, 03 Apr 2009, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Alan Barrett writes: >> > It would also make sense to add a sort option to mtree. >> >> Does mtree -C sort already? I haven't read the sources but it seems to >> rearrange what it

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/sets

2009-04-03 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Izumi Tsutsui writes: > Did you commit your change without build and test? ;-p No, I did a test build. I just noted that when I re-ordered things they got re-reordered by mtree, but I didn't look into it much. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
h adding support for it in the next week or so. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/sets/lists/comp

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Alan Barrett writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: apb > Date: Sat Apr 4 15:27:48 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/distrib/sets/lists/comp: mi > > Log Message: > Mention html versions of recently-added bit* man pages Thanks for getting tha

Re: CVS commit: src/distrib/utils/sysinst

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
; 50GB or some arbitrary > threshold. I suggested that to ad in private email earlier. UFS1 is still good for small file systems because it has less overhead. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
matthew green writes: >Alan Barrett writes: >> Perry, please could you answer this question. > >I'd rather not re-open the discussion without a good cause to do so, no. > > christos, myself and alan have all asked you about this and you > continue to refuse to answer it. Actuall

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Alan Barrett writes: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Could someone explain to me what the big deal in the first place is? >> Does having an extra boolean really make the world a horrible place? >> So MKREPRO will set MKARZERO, what's the big deal? Wh

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
STATICLIB:= no . else MKPIC:= no . endif There are others. I don't want to belabor it. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-04 Thread Perry E. Metzger
David Holland writes: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 05:56:04PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > There are others. I don't want to belabor it. > > all the same, I don't remember seeing any justification for adding yet > another switch. I explained the justification du

Re: CVS commit: src/doc

2009-04-05 Thread Perry E. Metzger
osted.org. After a 4.2 and 4.3 release, the project was renamed > to "cronie". (https://fedorahosted.org/cronie/) That is not vixiecron, though, and they probably never should have used the same numbering scheme. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/acpi

2009-04-08 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Jared D. McNeill" writes: > Detaching ACPI is more complicated than this because it is actually > used for much more than just device attachment; think about IRQ > routing, PCI bus discovery, PCI bus/addr/intr fixups, and CPU > attachment as some examples. It's probably not worth the effort. If

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-10 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Joerg Sonnenberger writes: > Modified Files: > src/etc: rc > src/etc/defaults: rc.conf > src/share/man/man5: rc.conf.5 > > Log Message: > Add rc_directories to specify where to look for rc scripts. > For the moment all scripts must be in /root and non-existent directories > are

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/fs/tmpfs

2009-04-12 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Andrew Doran writes: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:21:57AM +0000, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > >> Modified Files: >> src/sys/fs/tmpfs: tmpfs_vnops.c >> >> Log Message: >> SAVENAME was not set for rename and delete as required >> >> Patch from ch

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-04-15 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Joerg Sonnenberger writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: joerg > Date: Wed Apr 15 22:36:05 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/etc/rc.d: Makefile > Added Files: > src/sbin/rcorder: rcorder-visualize.sh > > Log Message: > Add a small script to visualize the rc dependency g

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/crunch/crunchide

2009-04-18 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Izumi Tsutsui writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: tsutsui > Date: Sat Apr 18 11:30:30 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/usr.bin/crunch/crunchide: exec_ecoff.c > > Log Message: > Fix another -Wsign-compare issue. > > XXX: is it really worth to keep non native aout/coff/ecoff

Re: CVS commit: src/etc/rc.d

2009-04-22 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Christos Zoulas writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: christos > Date: Wed Apr 22 18:27:03 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/etc/rc.d: named > > Log Message: > Adjust for new default location of the pid file. Seems kind of weird to have stuff in /var/run/named/named.pid -- w

Re: CVS commit: src/external/bsd/bind/dist/bin/named

2009-04-24 Thread Perry E. Metzger
only other time it writes is to dump a debugging file -- the latter is supposed to be done in /var/tmp though. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-05 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Alistair G. Crooks" writes: > + get rid of some assertions in the code - this is a library - about 100 to go Why does the fact that it is a library make assertions a bad thing, especially in security code? Perry

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-07 Thread Perry E. Metzger
umes something like the idea that time_t is always, say, four bytes. Then, later, someone like Christos comes along and turns the value into an eight byte quantity and assumptions fail. It is nice to have the assumptions fail in a nice loud way at compile time. This is not the same as checking that pi has not changed. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-08 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ity critical code with various checks, even for things that are seemingly unlikely to change. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-08 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Alistair G. Crooks" writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: agc > Date: Fri May 8 06:06:39 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist: TODO configure configure.ac > src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist/src/bin: netpgp.c > src/crypto/external

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-09 Thread Perry E. Metzger
(it should be essentially no performance hit), and I think it would also be nice if NetBSD could zeroize or randomize RAM on voluntary shutdowns. Neither, of course, is a NetPGP issue. > I'd really recommend source-changes-full for reviewing the changes > that are made - the setrl

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-09 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Lubomir Sedlacik writes: > On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 12:44:27PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> By that token, it would be of use for NetBSD to port over the >> encrypted swap features other OSes have (it should be essentially no >> performance hit), [...] > > Per

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-10 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Simon Burge writes: > "Perry E. Metzger" wrote: > >> [ ... ] Encrypted swap should >> be the default -- either using cgd or by simply encrypting the blocks as >> they go in and out without using the cgd layer. > > You've benchmarked the effect of

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-11 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ctly advocate for (besides scrapping the current UI) is something like the ssh-agent functionality. It is painful having to type in your passphrase for every email message you read, every one you want to sign, etc. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sbin/fsck_ffs

2009-05-11 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ve making all man pages refer consistently to FFS, FFSv1, FFSv2, and not to mix in the references to UFS. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sbin/fsck_ffs

2009-05-11 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"M. Warner Losh" writes: > In message: <87r5yv4rqn@snark.cb.piermont.com> > "Perry E. Metzger" writes: > : > : "M. Warner Losh" writes: > : > What I didn't glean from the discussion is what, exactly, you were

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-12 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Alistair G. Crooks" writes: > + allow a choice of hash algorithms for the signature digest (rather > than hardcoding SHA1 - it is looking as though collisions are easier > to manufacture based on recent findings) > + move default signature RSA hash algorithm to SHA256 (from SHA1). This is >

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/dec

2009-05-12 Thread Perry E. Metzger
ged, you will *know*. I don't think you should commit any more cosmetic changes if you aren't willing to do that sort of check. If you script it, it isn't even terribly much effort. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
David Holland writes: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:32:30AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > The only thing I will directly advocate for (besides scrapping the > > current UI) is something like the ssh-agent functionality. It is painful > > having to type in your passp

Re: CVS commit: src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist

2009-05-31 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Alistair G. Crooks" writes: > Modified Files: > src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist: TODO > src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist/include: netpgp.h > src/crypto/external/bsd/netpgp/dist/src/lib: compress.c create.c > crypto.c crypto.h keyring.c keyring.h misc.c netpgp.c

Re: CVS commit: src/external/ibm-public

2009-06-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Matthias Scheler writes: > Log Message: > Add makefile framework to build Postfix 2.6.2. Don't turn it on yet as > the Postfix 2.6.2 binary doesn't work yet because it cannot > find "/usr/libexec/postfix/postfix-script". That has to be /etc/postfix/postfix-script (yes, I know, it is unusual, but

Re: CVS commit: src/external/ibm-public/postfix

2009-06-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Matthias Scheler writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: tron > Date: Tue Jun 23 17:55:06 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/external/ibm-public/postfix: Makefile > src/external/ibm-public/postfix/conf: Makefile > src/external/ibm-public/postfix/postfix-etc: Makefile

Re: CVS commit: src/sys

2009-06-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Andrew Doran writes: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:36:41PM +, Elad Efrat wrote: > >> Log Message: >> Move the implementation of vaccess() to genfs_can_access(), in line with >> the other routines of the same spirit. > ... >> No objections on tech-kern@: >> >> http://mail-index.netbsd.org

Re: CVS commit: src/external/ibm-public

2009-06-23 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Perry E. Metzger" writes: > Matthias Scheler writes: >> Log Message: >> Add makefile framework to build Postfix 2.6.2. Don't turn it on yet as >> the Postfix 2.6.2 binary doesn't work yet because it cannot >> find "/usr/libexec/postfix/post

Re: CVS commit: src/external/ibm-public

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Matthias Scheler writes: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:02:04PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Matthias Scheler writes: >> > Log Message: >> > Add makefile framework to build Postfix 2.6.2. Don't turn it on yet as >> > the Postfix 2.6.2 binary doesn

Re: CVS commit: src/external/ibm-public

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Matthias Scheler writes: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:04:01AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Ah, well, if that has changed, then clearly it should be left in the new >> setup. That does leave the question of whether we should obsolete the >> /etc/postfix/postfix-script

Re: CVS commit: src/sys

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Arnaud Lacombe writes: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Izumi Tsutsui wrote: >> - it's reasonable for me that we should wait at least a week >>  before to consider "no response means no objections." >> > FWIW, I'm not sure the policy "wait for objection and commit if none" > is the best to foll

Re: CVS commit: src/sys

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Marc Balmer writes: > Here I have a question: > > [...] > >> We already have some guidelines: >> >> http://www.NetBSD.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html > > [...] > * Changing existing interfaces in libraries or in the kernel requires prior approval by Core. > > > Does this mean th

Re: CVS commit: src/sys

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
sponsors first, of course. Always a good thing to do when one is a new developer. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.bin/unzip

2009-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Joerg Sonnenberger writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: joerg > Date: Thu Jun 25 20:27:06 UTC 2009 > > Added Files: > src/usr.bin/unzip: Makefile unzip.1 unzip.c > > Log Message: > Add work-in-progress unzip(1) frontend for libarchive. > Derived from FreeBSD's unzip. Very co

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.sbin/wake

2009-06-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Christos Zoulas writes: > I think this utility should be renamed wakeonlan because wake is too > generic. Agreed -- it seems like a better name. Perry

Re: CVS commit: src/usr.sbin/wake

2009-06-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Simon Burge writes: > "wake" is a lot more generic term than "ssh" or "tcpdump". When I first > saw the subject "CVS commit: src/usr.sbin/wake" it wasn't in any way > obvious that this sent wake-on-lan packets to remote hosts. My first > guess was something that "woke up" processes blocked in t

Re: CVS commit: src

2009-07-14 Thread Perry E. Metzger
gt; Rename internal getline() function to get_line() so it does >> conflict with the soon to be added getline(3) libc function. > > You mean, that is does *not* conflict, right ? I'm also confused here -- wouldn't the definition in libc be shadowed by the version in the program itself? Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/gpio

2009-07-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
till a newdev, please get approval from a specific person > before you commit changes. I don't think the change was unreasonable or required more approval than Marc already got. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/gpio

2009-07-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Tonnerre LOMBARD writes: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:14:28PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> > While you're still a newdev, please get approval from a specific person >> > before you commit changes. >> >> I don't think the change was unreason

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/gpio

2009-07-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Tonnerre LOMBARD writes: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:48:06PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> That's another thing: quit being so rude to a new developer. Even if it >> was bad for him to do this commit, it would be unreasonable to tell him >> off so impolitely. >

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/gpio

2009-07-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger
d, and chritos@ too as this should have > been privately discussed. Violent agreement all around. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/sys/dev/gpio

2009-07-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Arnaud Lacombe writes: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> And in addition to being less than 24 hours old, the code was his own >> code. The clear de facto rule is that you can change code you wrote and >> own with a lot less approval, even for

Re: CVS commit: src/lib/libc/string

2009-07-30 Thread Perry E. Metzger
David Laight writes: > Module Name: src > Committed By: dsl > Date: Thu Jul 30 21:42:06 UTC 2009 > > Modified Files: > src/lib/libc/string: strcspn.c strspn.c > > Log Message: > Use a 'register only' str[c]spn() on 64 bit systems. How much of a speedup is this? Also, you have a s

Re: CVS commit: src/etc/rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Perry E. Metzger
still exist. That seems like quite a good thing. We should probably do that, moving ntpd much earlier in the system startup and making kdc etc. depend on ntpd instead of ntpdate. Are you willing to do the work? I don't have time for some days. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/etc/rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Perry E. Metzger
pseudo-dependency (TIME or some such) that any such tools would DEPEND on. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com

Re: CVS commit: src/etc/rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"M. Warner Losh" writes: > In message: <87ab2dat79@snark.cb.piermont.com> > "Perry E. Metzger" writes: > : > : Frank Kardel writes: > : > Actually we can retire ntpdate in rc unless we are very tight on > : > memory. ntpd_fla