Re: [SAtalk] Any good reason why this would not be marked as spam?

2004-01-08 Thread Terry Milnes
Thomas Nilsen wrote: As you can see from the header info, the message got 8, and we have the spam level set to 8.. Why would it not tag this email as spam? Its because the X-Spam-Status: No. is rounded off, it may have only scored 7.75, count the stars in X-Spam-Level, there's 7 tm

Re: [SAtalk] SA.rpm with sendmail install/usage

2004-01-04 Thread Terry Milnes
Try this: http://www.spamassassin.org/full/2.6x/dist/USAGE tm. john walsh wrote: Hi. I am new to spamassassin, but it looks very good and I would like to use it. After reading a lot of DOC's, I have decided what I want to do, but none of them have shown me how to do it. I want to run spamd

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist_from_rcvd question with multiple domains

2003-12-24 Thread Terry Milnes
Mike Kuentz (2) wrote: Terry Milnes wrote: I am not exactly sure what you want, sprintspectrum.com is NOT the same domain as sprint.com, its irelevant that it may be hosted on the same servers and owned by the same people. I'm aware that sprintspectrum.com & sprint.com aren&#

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist_from_rcvd question with multiple domains

2003-12-24 Thread Terry Milnes
I am not exactly sure what you want, sprintspectrum.com is NOT the same domain as sprint.com, its irelevant that it may be hosted on the same servers and owned by the same people. whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sprint.com whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] sprintspectrum.com Terry

Re: [SAtalk] Help with whitelist_to

2003-12-15 Thread Terry Milnes
Have you tried dropping the comma after [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't see the comma included in the spamassassin.conf man page. Marcio Merlone wrote: Hello all, I think my whitelist_to is not working, can someone help me? On /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam]# grep [EMAIL PR

Re: [SAtalk] spamc / vpopmail problem

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Milnes
You could use procmail to call spamc, eg. .qmail-user files look like this: | preline procmail -t -p ./the_users_name_here/Maildir/procmailrc and the user's procmailrc: LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail VERBOSE=ON ### Spam Assassin :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -u the_users_name_here -f :0 * ./th

Re: [SAtalk] Problem getting mail from earthlink

2003-12-11 Thread Terry Milnes
Are you sure the earthlink servers don't have another name prepended? eg mail server name = mail1.earthlink.com, therefore it would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] tm. Billy A. Pumphrey wrote: I added a few entries in the local.cf to let all earthlink email come through hopefully but it didn’t work. Her

Re: [SAtalk] SA tests performed

2003-12-10 Thread Terry Milnes
Barb Bautista wrote: Newbie question...sorry for my ignorance. What do I do with the "tests performed" available here: http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html Could someone please explain if I should just copy this file into a .cf file in my local.cf? I am currently running SA site-wide. That's ju

Re: [SAtalk] script to convert outlook .msg files

2003-12-08 Thread Terry Milnes
Barry Porter sent me a link to the following (we were discussing this off list): http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvz/software/msgconvert.pl This appears to be what I need Terry Terry Milnes wrote: I am looking for a script that can convert the .msg file that is created when you copy an outlook

[SAtalk] script to convert outlook .msg files

2003-12-08 Thread Terry Milnes
I am looking for a script that can convert the .msg file that is created when you copy an outlook message to a folder (out of the .pst tree) into text or some other usable format. Presently when I look at the file, the headers appear intact as does the content, it is however full of other extra

Re: [SAtalk] How to config Spam Assassin to reject spam > x.xx

2003-12-01 Thread Terry Milnes
Robert Harrison wrote: Hi all, Lots of helpfull people say this can be done by configuring SA to do it. Well I guess lots of helpful people are wrong then. However these same people don't mention how this can be done, Thats because SA can't do it so do any of you nice people out there know h

Re: [SAtalk] mysql user rules (no local.cf definition)

2003-11-26 Thread Terry Milnes
What do you mean by "user rules"? if you mean user preferences I have preferences in mysql that are not in the local.cf and they do work. Terry Adam Denenberg wrote: I believe Dallas touched on this some time ago when 2.55 was released but not sure of the status. It appears still that in

Re: [SAtalk] An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-25 Thread Terry Milnes
Logan Harbaugh wrote: To all concerned, I apologize for the apparent maligning of SpamAssassin in my recent article in InfoWorld. In my original article, I stated that I used the 2.44 release of SpamAssassin for two reasons - because it was the version shipping with the latest release of Red Hat

Re: [SAtalk] An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-25 Thread Terry Milnes
Frederick M Avolio wrote: At 06:13 AM 11/25/2003 +0100, Mark wrote: Is SA hard to install? Not harder than any other program based on Perl. Perl is the underlying engine, which, in and by itself, has nothing to do with SA. It is good to keep that in mind; Perhaps this is *my* problem. November

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Really bad Infoworld article

2003-11-24 Thread Terry Milnes
Nancy McGough wrote: On 24 Nov 2003 Fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] SpamAssassin 2.4 is really out-dated, it's missing Bayes and thousands of other fixes that make it a better product. I had a good laugh on your article, you say "Spend the 10 or 20 per month per year for one of the commerci

Re: [SAtalk] Really bad Infoworld article

2003-11-24 Thread Terry Milnes
front than down the road. Software upgrades are done in the comfort of my house, using SSH and webmin, usually taking only a couple hours, if that, at my convenience... -Jim -Original Message- From: Terry Milnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:16 AM To: Je

Re: [SAtalk] Really bad Infoworld article

2003-11-24 Thread Terry Milnes
The company I did this for is a small company, a large user base doesn't mean a large company. The same can be said for the larger companies, they may have an admin who makes 20 bucks an hour so their costs would be in the $30 an hour range. There were other considerations I didn't even mentio

Re: [SAtalk] Meaning of spamassassin -a option

2003-11-23 Thread Terry Milnes
From spamassassin man page: -a, --auto-whitelist, --whitelist Use auto-whitelists. Auto-whitelists track the long-term average score for each sender and then shift the score of new messages toward that long-term average. This can increase or decrease the score for messages, depending on the l

Re: [SAtalk] Really bad Infoworld article

2003-11-23 Thread Terry Milnes
And now for the real world. I was asked a year ago to come up with a solution for spam filtering, in a multiple domain, multiple user environment ( > 4,400 users). After extensive research I recommended SA. I installed SA on my system and ran it for about a month, it was an older version

Re: [SAtalk] log msg "Still running as root: ..."; how to fix suppress [RH8, SA 2.6]

2003-11-20 Thread Terry Milnes
Randall J. Parr wrote: Running Red Hat 8.0 with all current updates, sendmail-8.12.8-9.80, procmail-3.22-7, and spamassassin-2.60-0.fdr.2.rh80 I have /etc/procmailrc passing to SpamAssassin as below: # send mail through SpamAssassin :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f It works BUT I think somet

Re: [SAtalk] Negative score for SAtalk messages

2003-11-20 Thread Terry Milnes
Ditto, kinda, mine is specific to this list: whitelist_to [EMAIL PROTECTED] whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists.sourceforge.net Works for me and is harder for spammers to abuse. Note that for this to work your mail system must be set up in such a way that spamassassin can "see" the e

Re: [SAtalk] Question about user prefs.

2003-11-18 Thread Terry Milnes
Paul Hirschorn wrote: I have been working on a variety of scenarios of how to handle per user spam prefs on a mail gateway machine. Through trial and error found a couple of interesting things. In order to user prefs to be read from SQL I need to invoke the -u "username" flag in spamc. I have my

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot write to bayes_journal

2003-11-17 Thread Terry Milnes
Marco Schnüriger wrote: Hi all I've got spamassassin 2.60 running (as root, not fine I know). Sendmail is working with spamass-milter which calls spamassassin. My system is a red hat 8.0 box. In /var/log/maillog I see those recurring events: Nov 17 10:19:36 probivirix spamd[30674]: cannot write to

Re: [SAtalk] management GUI

2003-11-13 Thread Terry Milnes
Margit Meyer wrote: Further I created accounts for all these "spamboxes". As a result every user has two mailboxes: his "normal" mailbox, e. g. peter and a second, the"spambox", e. g. peter_spam. Now a user may (if he misses a mail) or may not look at his spambox to control whether Spamassassin is

Re: [SAtalk] Bounce all but whitelist

2003-11-12 Thread Terry Milnes
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Milnes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bounce all but whitelist Haha I just had to try this Blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the db for that particular u

Re: [SAtalk] Off topic: Threads

2003-11-12 Thread Terry Milnes
This list seems to be worse than most though, go figure . Matt Kettler wrote: At 07:18 AM 11/12/03 -0500, Terry Milnes wrote: Are the threads on this list screwed up by the list program, or is it just users replying to existing mail to create new? Just wondering, because it seems to be

Re: [SAtalk] Bounce all but whitelist

2003-11-12 Thread Terry Milnes
Haha I just had to try this Blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the db for that particular user, then add his acceptable senders as whitelisted entries. Don't know about any negative ramifications, but it does work and will fit in with the way you want it to. tm Tim Merkel wrote: I have a clie

[SAtalk] Off topic: Threads

2003-11-12 Thread Terry Milnes
Are the threads on this list screwed up by the list program, or is it just users replying to existing mail to create new? Just wondering, because it seems to be terribly messed up Terry... --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 20

Re: [SAtalk] management GUI

2003-11-12 Thread Terry Milnes
Margit Meyer wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:51:51 -0800 "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All seems good. I am trapping all spam and viruses in /var/virusmail (they are in .gz format) Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can add some better management around spam that we have blocked, that we ne

Re: [SAtalk] Problem while configuring Spamassassin

2003-11-11 Thread Terry Milnes
and what happens when you run spamd -D from the command line? Rajdeep Larha wrote: I installed SpamAssassin as per the documentations available at the spamassassin.org. I instaleld all the dependent modules and it installed fine w/o any error, I checked and verified using the command listed in

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-11 Thread Terry Milnes
ess I could start with my corpus and add to it as I do mine, and watch the test accounts to see how well it works. Thanks David B Funk wrote: On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Terry Milnes wrote: The bayes filtering works great, but the typical user is not going to want to jump through what he would conside

Re: [SAtalk] Re: scoring system and values...

2003-11-11 Thread Terry Milnes
Lukreme wrote: On 10 Nov 2003, at 07:33, Terry Milnes wrote: The typical user is capable of making toast in his electric toaster, but when it comes to the overwhelming complexities involved in operating a computer he is totally lost. He will become extremely agitated when he looses the *REALLY

Re: [SAtalk] Looking for Rules

2003-11-10 Thread Terry Milnes
Yeah RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK etc. is annoying, and it is a bug, that is scheduled to be fixed in version 2.7 (the last time I looked) In the meantime maybe notify whoever informed you that spamassassin has a bug (# 2537 dialup dnsbl's don't skip first hop). They can add "score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0"

Re: [SAtalk] MYSql user prefs

2003-11-10 Thread Terry Milnes
Paul Hirschorn wrote: I wanted to allow my users to be able to change there user prefs via the mysql interface. The problem I am facing is most of my users have 3-6 email addresses. Sure there is... I have multiple email accounts but only one user in mysql that each account uses. This is accom

Re: [SAtalk] Re: scoring system and values...

2003-11-10 Thread Terry Milnes
Lukreme wrote: On 08 Nov 2003, at 06:46, Terry Milnes wrote: Some of us though are system administrators and need a solution to offer to the end users. The typical end user wants to open their email and see no spam, period. Since the definition of spam varies from person to person that is

Re: [SAtalk] Is bl.spamcop.net gone?

2003-11-08 Thread Terry Milnes
you are correct, it doesn't resolve for me either Mark wrote: Is it just me, or is bl.spamcop.net gone? I am no longer able to get a DNS resolution for it. - Mark --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Ve

Re: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-08 Thread Terry Milnes
Now I don't expect SA to know dutch; that would be unfair. But what I would like is some way to score those english terms way higher than an american would or could. For an american, mortgage does not spell spam per se. But for ME it does, and I can practically guarantee I will not ever get an em

Re: [SAtalk] spamd startup script hangs system

2003-11-08 Thread Terry Milnes
Russell, I suspect you are not comparing apples to apples here, I asked for the command you use when running manually, I am assuming a) you are not logging in as the user spamd and b) you are not running: (as user spamd) $ spamd -x -H /home/spamd -d -d -c -a Because this is the command your sta

Re: [SAtalk] qmail-scanner-queue.pl never sees username

2003-11-06 Thread Terry Milnes
Although I use qmail/vpopmail/mysql etc. I call spamc from procmail, don't use the qmail-scanner-queue, so my method is a little different than yours but it may help, the spamc call uses the -u username option... eg. users procmailrc file: LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail VERBOSE=ON ### Spam Assassin

Re: [SAtalk] Anti-SA article: "ISP Assassin"

2003-11-06 Thread Terry Milnes
Haha this guy "Doctor Electron" is a moron oops I defamed him... His paper "The Smart Gateway: Port-to-Local-Host Address Mapping" was also entertaining tm. Matthew Cline wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/space/netcensus/ispassassin.html Hmmm... The article claims that SA itself genera

Re: [SAtalk] Anti-SA article: "ISP Assassin"

2003-11-05 Thread Terry Milnes
Haha this guy "Doctor Electron" is a moron oops I defamed him... His paper "The Smart Gateway: Port-to-Local-Host Address Mapping" was also entertaining tm. Matthew Cline wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/space/netcensus/ispassassin.html Hmmm... The article claims that SA itself generate

Re: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Terry Milnes
This is a spammers wet dream come true, send out 15,000,000 'IMPORTANT' emails, use a bell smtp server and it reaches the end user 8 times so he doesn't miss the valuable message. The same problem has been occuring at sympatico.ca as well, another "Bell" company. It started about 3 weeks ago.

Re: [SAtalk] does local.cf override sql prefs ?

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Don't know if I can be of much help here becaue I don't have a required_hits directive in local.cf, I thought it would be redundant when using the sql preferences. Anyway I slapped that directive into local.cf, then reloaded spamd, ran a test message and the answer is the local.cf does not appe

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
s. --Larry -----Original Message- From: Terry Milnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:45 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates Hold it a sec, not all rpms contain the source, in fact unless things have changed I thought that most

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Hold it a sec, not all rpms contain the source, in fact unless things have changed I thought that most contained precompiled binaries, and that was the problem with them. I work primarily with source installations, I have no problem tracking what was involved during the install process, granted

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Hodgson wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:09:36PM -0400, Terry Milnes wrote: Personally I don't see how its possible to run a customized server using rpms only. You need to build your own RPM's for stuff that isn't already packaged or for software that you want special optimizat

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Milnes
Darren Coleman wrote: I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always install everything from source. A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his Linux boxes from RPMs. Personally I don't see how its possible to run a customized server using rpms only. A windows system admi

Re: [SAtalk] CPAN or RPM's?

2003-10-15 Thread Terry Milnes
l be a Fedora n, I would also assume that the concern that started this thread with regards to RPM support is unfounded. tm E R wrote: That might be because it might not be called RedHat anymore, it's the Fedora Project Terry Milnes wrote: I don't know how you arrive at that conclusio

Re: [SAtalk] CPAN or RPM's?

2003-10-15 Thread Terry Milnes
I don't know how you arrive at that conclusion, versions prior to 7.1 have reached end of life. RH states that there will be no errata released for those versions. http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/archives/ They also state that versions up to 9 will reach end of life at the end of this ye

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Ignoring first hop in RBL lookups (RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK - bug 2543)

2003-10-05 Thread Terry Milnes
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2543 This bug is marked as "resolved" with a target milestone of 2.70. Does this mean that there is no fix/patch available, and will not be until 2.70 is released? In the interim, I'd recommend disabling the rule by adding the following to your

Re: [SAtalk] RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK problem

2003-09-26 Thread Terry Milnes
the trusted_networks option Ryan Moore -- Perigee.net Corporation 704-849-8355 (sales) 704-849-8017 (tech) www.perigee.net Terry Milnes wrote: Ryan, Ok here are the two headers again, both messages originated from the same computer, smtp server in outlook express is set up to use aloak.c

Re: [SAtalk] RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK problem

2003-09-25 Thread Terry Milnes
ep they are. The recipient can use the 'trusted_networks' option that was added in 2.60 to get around that problem. I don't have the start of the thread on the machine I'm writing this from so hopefully I understood what was going on ;] Ryan Moore -- Perigee.net Corpor

Re: [SAtalk] RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK problem

2003-09-24 Thread Terry Milnes
ully their policies haven't changed. Thanks for the response btw. Terry Gerry Doris wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Terry Milnes wrote: This may be a little difficult to explain but here goes. All of my systems are behind a nat box. My mail server OS is linux, using qmail/vpopmail/mysql p

[SAtalk] RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK problem

2003-09-24 Thread Terry Milnes
This may be a little difficult to explain but here goes. All of my systems are behind a nat box. My mail server OS is linux, using qmail/vpopmail/mysql procmail etc.etc.. Upgraded to Spamassassin V 2.60 rc6 (the day before the final release) My daughter's system is on the same network as my mai

Re: SV: [SAtalk] RD - Here is a rule to check for Verisign redirect domain

2003-09-19 Thread Terry Milnes
It could be relativly static if each admin makes up their own... The admin could also write a script to verify the name resolution. Alternativly perhaps verisign could register a domain name that could be used for this purpose. tm. Gert Lynge wrote: So presumably, looking up a garbage address

Re: [SAtalk] Blocking a Domain

2003-06-23 Thread Terry Milnes
I just wanted to ask , can I blacklist an entire domain for a particular user in his spam settings (Web iterface) blacklist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Put that in the users config file Chris I prefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], the example above will not blacklist the entire domain, mail from [EMAIL