RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil PF

2004-01-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Ah, I see now. It's probably the link to exclaimer.co.uk which is a product that puts boilerplate disclaimers at the end of Exchange 200x emails. Lawyers love those things. Idunno why it's in there. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >

RE: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Meunier
Upgrade to 1.14. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Arpi > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed > > Hi, > > After upgrading chichekpox to Version 1.11, spa

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil PF

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Meunier
You're asking why would "exotic playthings" or "excellentoffers" be a spam indicator? If it gives you FPs, just lower the score in your local.cf. Or view the source of the email in question and look at what's tripping it. 3.0 isn't enough to FP all on its own, after all - there's some other spa

RE: [SAtalk] thank you guys

2004-01-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I'll never complain about my old PII-400 taking 8.5 seconds to process a message through spamd again. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kinghorn Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:32 AM To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Subject: [SAt

RE: [SAtalk] Country codes

2004-01-09 Thread Tom Meunier
Since they rarely declare the TRUE country they're sending from, I'd probably use the blackholes.us rbls. And probably host them locally to reduce DNS lookup time. http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html It only has zones for argentina, brazil, china, hong kong, japan, korea, malaysia, mexico,

RE: [SAtalk] Thank you, thank you, thank you to the developers of SpamAssassin!

2004-01-08 Thread Tom Meunier
You forgot the part about the free Blaupunkt car stereos and Sony WEGA televisions. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk]

RE: [SAtalk] Finding a rule to catch a particular spam

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Pyzor and BigEvil nailed both of them. The second one hit a whole ton of RBLs also. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Geoff Soper > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:18 PM > To: Chris Santerre > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: *

RE: [SAtalk] Continuing saga of runaway spamd

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Interesting to me mostly because spamc/spamd by default won't even look at a 1.2mb email. I'm interested in how/where that happened. -tom > -Original Message- > > After we upgraded to SA 2.61 as was suggested by this list we > had a mail-machine crash again when spamd expanded beyond

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil.cf

2004-01-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Start spamd with -D debug options and then tail -f /var/log/maillog |grep -i bigevil > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of SAtalk Mail User > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] BigEvil.c

RE: [SAtalk] Detailed explanation of rules?

2003-12-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Gordon, > > Firstly, I can bring up the list of tests, but is there any > way that I can find out more explanation of the tests? http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html There > are really two aspects to this question - the brief > descriptions of the tests often refer to technical details

RE: [SAtalk] Image-only spam

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Before you play with the settings, consider updating to the current version of SpamAssassin. You're probably using 2.44; the current version is 2.61. At this point, that much spam getting through would be expected behavior. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of AltGrendel > > We're running Exchange 2k that was upgraded from 5.5, which > was upgraded from ...(you get the idea). Anyway, I'm still > seeing the old header style and I'm wondering if it's n

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:41 AM > To: Tom Meunier; AltGrendel; SA-Talk > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? > > > Interesting... what did you set o

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of AltGrendel > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM > To: SA-Talk > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? > > Wasn't there a big issue with public folders stripp

RE: [SAtalk] Detecting strings of Gibberish

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl Most of the gibberish I see is encoded tracking information. I plugged in my domain name to the little script thingy, saved the .cf file, and it catches 'em like crazy. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
What would differentiate the proposed public corpus from the public corpus at http://www.spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/? -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Adam Denenberg > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:10 AM > To: [EMAI

RE: [SAtalk] How do I catch obfuscated characters?

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
You'll want to look at http://www.exit0.us/index.php/MaskedWordList Take a gander at the link to Chris' Mediocre ObfuScript, which is soon (I hear) to be upgraded to Chris' Somewhat Adequate ObfuScript. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [SAtalk] SecuritySage spam filters and Postfix/SpamAssassin integration

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Porter > > http://www.securitysage.com/guides/postfix_uce.html > > I just got some mail bounced by an ISP using this setup and > after reviewing the details, it looks like the system is se

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange 2000 + SpamAssassin + Postfix

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Guentert Matthias > > I have successfully installed spamassassin on my linux server which > runs postfix as mta. Our Exchange 2000 server pops the emails from the > linux server which stands in th

RE: [SAtalk] spamassasin without the mess

2003-11-11 Thread Tom Meunier
You've just described how spamassassin works. So I'm pretty certain the you don't want to sit at a command line, saving your mails to text files, and checking them one-by-one. What is it that you would LIKE to do, really? Chances are someone's already doing it. Do you have a non-*n?x enterprise

RE: [SAtalk] Is bl.spamcop.net gone?

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > > IIRC, bl.spamcop.net isn't supposed to resolve. Try running an RBL > > query against it instead of trying to resolve it. > > > > > Surely it has to resolve to *something* - the NS records have > gone as well. > > Tony > No, it doesn't have to. When you que

RE: [SAtalk] Filtering on returned mails not written with my mail client

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
No. How would this be a bug? By definition it would have to be a custom rule, since you've specified that it be user-specific and custom header specific. Such a rule would work for nobody in the universe but Wolfgang Rohdewald. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [m

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Tom Meunier
The CASHCASHCASH rule tests for the string '$$$' not for the phrase CASH! CASH! CASH! The ADDRESSES_ON_CD rule caught almost as much ham when tested against a half-million message corpus as it did spam. The BLANK_LINES_90_100 caught MORE ham than it did spam. http://search.cpan.org/src/JMASON/Mail

RE: [SAtalk] RE: [RD] spam sentences

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
VSNL is, I believe, the largest ISP in India or at least in the top 2. I'd tread lightly on blocking them if you do business with India at all. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chris Santerre > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 20

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 Custom scores?

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
Since I'm stupid, you'll want to test this thoroughly. In 20_body_checks.cf you'll find: bodyRAZOR2_CF_RANGE_11_50 eval:check_razor2_range('11','50') bodyRAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 eval:check_razor2_range('51','100') tflags RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_11_50 net tflags RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 net

RE: [SAtalk] Patterns and load, progress???

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Example 1. Use spamc/spamd, it defaults to only scanning messages under 250k and you can change that limit with spamc's -s switch. Example 2. What version of Spamassassin are you running? There's a whole ton of tests based upon the ratio of image to text. -tom ___

RE: [SAtalk] a new rule

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
If it's already 100% sure that it's spam, how is it helpful to train it that it's spam? It's not like it's going to be 110% sure that it's spam. It's already trained! Not trying to be a wise-ass, I've just seen this question come up fairly often, and can't wrap my head around it. -tom > -O

RE: [SAtalk] Are these blacklists widely used, anywhere?

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
No, but you can enable it if you like. Their web site tells you how. Just save this text as /etc/mail/spamassassin/something.cf http://www.ahbl.org/using/spamassassin.txt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nigel Featherston > Sen

RE: [SAtalk] Best Blacklists

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Matt, thanks for this. It's a great resource. However, I'm wondering why the following were scored as zero and thus don't have numbers to support their efficacy or lack thereof: 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.110.00 RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.110.

RE: [SAtalk] spamd using up all system memory and swap space

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
-m 15 will limit it to 15 spamd instances. Give that a shot. I'm kinda surprised by how quickly this happens, though. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dennis Duval > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Problems with bayes "forgetting" in 2.60

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
John, if you run the email through Spamassassin -tD -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stewart, John > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 1:13 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [SAtalk] Problems with bayes "forgetting" in 2.60 > >

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Sweet. 27 hours for that to show up. (And looking at headers it's the ISP anyway, heh) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom Meunier > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, this is the sixth copy of this email that I've gotten. Is it me, is it sourceforge, or is it maybelline? (Yeah, I know it's sourceforge, but I wanted to kvetch) -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chris Trudeau > Sent:

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Even on good mail? Or only on Spam? Because when I see spam, I'm 99% sure it's spam, and a well-trained Bayes engine would be 99% sure also. If it's on good mail that you're seeing 99%, every time, then your database is screwed up and you should start over. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: [SAtalk] list of test gone

2003-10-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Sorry, I should've left a note. I had brought it to the printers to get a banner made, and thought I'd take it out for a nice ice cream sundae too. It's back now, though. I put it at http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Auto learning and manual blacklists

2003-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier
> I have a pretty > comprehensive (and paranoid) list of blacklisted from > addresses that I *know* will only send spam. > > Is there any way I configure SA such that these will be used > to train the bayes? Make a custom header rule for the domain, and score it with a crazy amount of points.

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes location setting?

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
That's right. It seems weird, doesn't it? But basically, that setting tells SA that the filenames are /usr/local/share/bayes_* To achieve what you think it should be, you'd want to do bayes_path /usr/local/share/bayes/bayes - funny as that sounds. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL P

RE: [SAtalk] LOTS of mail being tagged wrong

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
Train Bayes with sa-learn --ham using a sizable representative sample of the shipping company's "known good" email. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Håkon Nilsen (Exinet AS) > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:21 AM > To: [EMAIL P

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > > I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always > install everything from source. > A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his > Linux boxes from RPMs. > > What does that tell you? :) > Tells me we need a larger sample size. I'm a Wind

RE: [SAtalk] Automatic Unsubscribe

2003-10-14 Thread Tom Meunier
It's arguable whether that will unsubscribe them, or confirm to the spammer that they've scored a direct hit, and make your users a more valuable spam target. Think about it: Is someone who just hijacked a Taiwanese elementary school's mail server to send out necrophilia pornography with forged he

RE: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-H should list a directory other than the default home directory of the user that's calling spamc. Else, don't use it at all. -m5 should be -m 5 I believe. Other than that, Idunno. Feel free to ignore me. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
tom > -Original Message- > From: Robert Leonard III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:00 PM > To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA > > Thanks for the tip.. I guess it was an address

RE: [SAtalk] SA memory utilization (Was: Evil rules HUGE update!

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ ] > > 2) Is there any way of setting up logging to know which rules > are being hit & which ones aren't without grabbing all of the > message headers? I'd like to be able to profile which rules > are being hi

RE: [SAtalk] Too many rules?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
Call it with spamd and limit the number of spamd processes with the -m switch. For comparison sake, I have a light-volume postfix/spamd gateway server that handles about 1000 messages per hour during business hours. It's a PII-400 with 512mb RAM. I can't give you spamstats time statistics outpu

[SAtalk] Popcorn & Weeds & Backhair

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
So I'm loving the rules http://spamhammers.nxtek.net/ that Jennifer Wheeler wrote , but I'm up against a few (philosophical?) questions, and would like to invite discussion. I've noticed that about 95% of the time when these rules are hit, they're listed as BAYES_99. In this case, should I even b

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, are you running spamassassin as root? If not, you'll probably want to specify bayes_path in your local.cf - so that when you do a spamassassin -D it reflects the ACTUAL location of the Bayes databases. Then run it again, and see if you actually have zero spams in the database. It will tell

RE: [SAtalk] How to ignore attachments of a certain size?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
How do you call SpamAssassin? Please be specific with your answer. :) If you use spamc/spamd it defaults to only scanning up to 250kb, configurable with the -s switch. No config file necessary, you set it as a switch on the line that you call spamc with. http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/spamc.ht

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: O-Zone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:40, Tom Meunier wrote: > > (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which > > machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does > siena also > > have

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
(I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena also have spamassassin? That would cause this behavior. -tom - headers - On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:25, you wrote: > It's difficult to see because you're not incl

RE: [SAtalk] RBL check

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Doug, The answer to your question varies depending on what version of SpamAssassin you're using, and what RBL's you're seeing scores on. This is crucial information to answering your question. Since this is a well-documented issue with versions before 2.60, I'm going to assume that, and that y

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, so SpamAssassin is working fine. The mail is properly marked up when it leaves SpamAssassin at the original place SpamAssassin is called. Then the next process is what's marking it as 0.0. It almost looks as if it's running spamassassin twice, once on the original mail and once on the alr

RE: [SAtalk] OT: anti-spam email-only host

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Sounds like Postini. Or Messagelabs. postini dot com or messagelabs dot com. Messagelabs is using a modified SpamAssassin, iirc. > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Vanasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk

RE: [SAtalk] 2.60 Problems

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
6 asterisks indicates it's not quite 7.0. Probably 6.9something. You could add up the scores to verify if you really like, but that's what's happening. X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=7.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_10,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED

RE: [SAtalk] spamassassin -tD creates higher score than MailScanner & SpamAssassin

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
So you're saying that when you cut and paste the body of a spam into an email, removing the spammer's headers, SpamAssassin doesn't rate your headers as spammy as the spammer's headers? And you include only the spammy body, and it trips off all the spammy body checks? That's to be expected, isn't

RE: [SAtalk] SA's recently slowed down for me!

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
You need to either upgrade to 2.60 or remove your Osirusoft and orbs tests tests as specified in the article at http://news.spamassassin.org. Those blocklists are dead and are waiting until your timeout. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jim Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday,

RE: [SAtalk] 50% Spam Reduction Rate

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
What version of SpamAssassin? You can implement Razor, DCC, RBLs, and train your Bayes up to 200 each of spam/ham to augment the tools at SA's disposal. -tom > -Original Message- > From: David M. Carney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PRO

RE: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60?

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
It's the first option on the list if you type spamd --help > -Original Message- > From: Rob Mangiafico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60? > > In the 2.60 docs, the -a "auto whitelis

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Pyzor in 2.60?

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
I've been able to re-discover pyzor servers (and it always winds up with the same server) and get pyzor working for a couple hours before the "couldn't grok response '...TimeoutErrors'" begins again. I've disabled Pyzor and just written it off to my own ignorance. Basically once it starts not

RE: [SAtalk] Highest Score

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Look, there's a poll for this at http://news.spamassassin.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-Polls&file=index Is it inappropriate to suggest that we see who's got the biggest thingy over there? -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:Think

[SAtalk] Bayes poison

2003-10-02 Thread Tom Meunier
What to do with a spam that includes this garbage at the bottom, in a hidden font? Bayes freaked, I'm kinda glad it didn't auto-learn it. I'd rather have the false negative than that. (Only snipped the Bayes poison from the mail, I think maybe Mozilla TBird put all the = in there.) -tom ---

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes (again)

2003-10-01 Thread Tom Meunier
1. It's okay to train with the spam with Spamassassin markup. sa-learn ignores the markup. 2. It's not okay to train with "this month's sent-mail" - you need to be training it with mail that reflects the type of mail you GET, not send. The headers are as crucial as the body. -tom > -Origi

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Automating usage of sa-learn

2003-09-30 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Malte S. Stretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > and 3 ways to > > attach a complete message (as sent by the POP3 server) to a new > > message. > > Could you tell me the way to do it with Outlook 2000? I > searched for that > option on a customers box today,

RE: [SAtalk] Auto-whitelist (AWL) enable/disable?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
AFAICT you'd do auto_whitelist_factor 0 use_bayes 0 will disable bayes, not the (unfortunately named - it's as much an auto blacklist as an auto whitelist, innit?) auto whitelisting feature. I hope if I'm mistaken somebody will jump in and correct me. I remember this being asked a few months a

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes question: Can I change the number of messages required before bayes kicks in?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Why not just go get 80 spams from the public corpus? It'll be not optimal, but it'll be better than forcing it with 120. http://spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/ > -Original Message- > From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] SA WISH LIST Country Identification 2 Digit Codes

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
You could probably make some of that happen yourself by implementing some of the blacklists at http://www.blackholes.us See http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html#spamassassin for usage info. -tom -Original Message- From: Andrew Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I think the main thrust of his answer was that Google Is Your Friend. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jim Knuth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > First hit after googling for spamstats and perl: > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/spamstats/?topic_id=245 > > tha

RE: [SAtalk] problems with 2.60

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
Go check your filesystem rights on those file & directories. That's happened to me before, and I was waiting for it to happen this time too, and mysteriously, it didn't. My gateway boxen must be contagious. :) -tom > -Original Message- > From: Steve Heggood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [SAtalk] required_hits 10 email scores a 7 and is blocked

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't block mail. All it does is mark it up for content. That mail seems to have been marked up for spam content correctly. Therefore, your problem is not with SpamAssassin but rather with the product that you've configured to quarantine mail. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: [SAtalk] Philosophical SA questions

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Darren, > 256 Ham, 1040 Probably Spam (>5 points), 256 Almost Certainly > Spam (>15 points), and 269 false negatives, 0 false > positives. Bayes was trained with 16680 Spam, 4092 Ham, > 125776 tokens. I have auto-learning enabled, and feed all > the false negatives back into sa-learn th

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Klein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 3:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the > box... [] > > As far as I could tell, my spam email was pfs (that's pretty f%$%$king

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
It's not abysmal. You just don't understand it. Most people get in excess of 99% of spam with SpamAssassin. Isn't it great to know that SpamAssassin is so well geared against false positives that you're TRYING to send a spammy email and can't do it? http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html Break

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Spamstats does that. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ > -Original Message- > From: Markus Gaugusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Better logging? > > Hi, > I'm using spamassassin on our relay server (with pos

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh pooh. Ignore me. Of course Patrick is right; it doesn't support qmail. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Meunier > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:51 AM > To: 'Tomáš Macek'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on scor

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Why, Google of course! http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt/ Yes, it works with qmail. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Tomáš Macek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based o

RE: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to accumulate 4 points

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Bayes, RBL checks, Razor, DCC, Pyzor. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ed Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:58 AM > To: spamassassin talk > Subject: [SAtalk] Really really simple spams - not enough to > accumulate 4 points > > I've been getting

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes questions

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Ed, You can either wait until the auto-learning catches up and learns 200 messages, or if you're impatient (like me) and just want to get it going: Train it with as much recent good mail as you can get, then make up for it with older mail. Don't get all wrapped up in the timestamp issue. Train

RE: [SAtalk] Spam and bounces

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't bounce mail, period. If you want it to bounce mail, please do so. If you don't, don't. Further documentation in your MTA's man pages. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Regis Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:56 PM > To: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Gary Funck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:38 AM > To: Spamassassin List > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size > > Define "safe" - I stick with the default of 250kb and have > never had > > an issue with it. I can't se

RE: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
Absolutely. www.exit0.us/index.php/VirusBounceRules among other things. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Ivar Magne Auestad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ >

RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Meunier
Define "safe" - I stick with the default of 250kb and have never had an issue with it. I can't see receiving a spam anywhere near that size, that wouldn't also trigger an attachment blocking rule on my gateway MTA. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [SAtalk] disable rbls, but keep pyzor, dcc, razor

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Meunier
skip_rbl_checks 1 #even though they're default if installed anyway... use_razor2 1 use_pyzor 1 use_dcc 1 You've disabled the Osirusoft tests, I hope. Those hit everything on the Internet. -tom > -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, Sept

RE: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs

2003-09-17 Thread Tom Meunier
http://blackholes.us/ > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs > > I'm getting sick of all the spam that comes from rr.com and > have been b

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
Message- > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly > > > "Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:37 +1100" > > -tom > > > -Original Me

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
"Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:37 +1100" -tom > -Original Message- > http://www.iab.org/Documents/icann-vgrs-response.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _

[SAtalk] Rules for hoaxes

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
I'm mulling over whether to make some SA rules for some of the more common urban legends and virus hoaxes. Has anyone played with this, that is willing to share experiences? -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to gee

RE: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
If there's no BAYES_ test whatsoever, it isn't thinking it's ham. It's not saying anything whatsoever. Probably based upon the fact that it didn't have sufficient tokens or something. Please note that Bayes doesn't use keywords. It uses tokens, which may or may not resemble words. Also note

RE: [SAtalk] SA only ran 1 test??

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
How can you tell it only ran one test? I'd say it ran all of the tests but only hit on one of them. What rule do you feel your example spams broke, that SpamAssassin missed tagging? The only answer to spams like your example is Bayes, RBLs, and distributed checksums such as Razor/Pyzor/DCC, if

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
Yes, you're not running spamd as root, but you ran spamassassin -D --lint as root. Note the different paths to the bayes databases in your output. > -Original Message- > From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:07 PM > To: To

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
if you run spamassassin -D --lint it will show you a dbug line: debug: bayes corpus size: nspam = [number], nham = [number] > -Original Message- > From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Plus I'd just like to know how much further I > have to go before the Bayes kicks in

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
You are correct. It needs 68 more spams. > -Original Message- > From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to > the score > ... > > [snip] > Sep 9 10:

RE: [SAtalk] Performance optimization for bigger setups

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
> > currently I am looking for options on how to speed up > spamassassin 2.54. > Hi Jochen, I've been considering the idea proferred at http://www.advosys.ca/papers/printable/postfix-filtering.html under "A Word About Performance" The method shown here is an easy and reliable way to filter m

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn says it learnt from 134 messages butcheck_bayes__db only reports 19 as nspam?

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Feed it 1400 more? -tom > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yes I don't expect it to activate in SA until then but how can you get > it to over 200 when I feed it 134 emails but the db says it > only learned > 19? --

RE: [SAtalk] osirusoft still working?

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
1. It *is* the case indeed. Look at your email. Since Osirusoft has blacklisted the entire internet, every one would have that test flagged, wouldn't it? Yes. It doesn't, does it? No. Setting it to 0 disables the test. 2. Even if it *did* run the test, if a test were to score zero points,

RE: [SAtalk] Change RBL lookup

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier
There are already tests for SpamCop and NJABL: RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RCVD_IN_NJABL X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY X_NJABL_DIALUP You can see what blacklists are tested by default, and their assigned scores, at http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html For examples of rules for alternative blacklists, see

RE: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier
http://useast.spamassassin.org/tests.html You've got negative scores all over that thing. Add them up. > -Original Message- > From: landy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:31 AM > To: SA > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] why so low > > i have

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning

2003-09-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Dave, hope I can help here beyond parroting what I've read & played with... > > On this one, it's because autolearn learns the message pre-Bayes > > test. Without your Bayes_90, that message scored under 1.9 points, > > and so it was autolearned. The other reason that applies here is > > expl

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning

2003-09-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Dave, You've got two different things happening here. > -Original Message- > From: Dave Kliczbor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning > > > | X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.1 requ

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Ron Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Because without a few hundred messages, it would be > completely and utterly > useless? > > Yes, i do understand that. I guess my complaint is that I > would have rather > it started working and been somewhat us

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
Because without a few hundred messages, it would be completely and utterly useless? It would be like meeting an airline pilot who was 5'7" tall and had a scar on his left cheek and wore his hat backwards. Bayes would think that scars on left cheeks were as reliable an indicator of airline-pilo

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
You'll likely find that those words wouldn't be considered "interesting tokens" - and if they do, they will also be considered interesting tokens for all the ham you receive discussing these topics. The bayesian engine doesn't simply grab words; it grabs tokens, and it grabs them in some really (t

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