RE: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed

2004-01-26 Thread Tom Meunier
Upgrade to 1.14. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arpi Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] new chicnpox --lint failed Hi, After upgrading chichekpox to Version 1.11, spamassassin

RE: [SAtalk] thank you guys

2004-01-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I'll never complain about my old PII-400 taking 8.5 seconds to process a message through spamd again. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kinghorn Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:32 AM To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Subject:

RE: [SAtalk] Country codes

2004-01-09 Thread Tom Meunier
Since they rarely declare the TRUE country they're sending from, I'd probably use the blackholes.us rbls. And probably host them locally to reduce DNS lookup time. http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html It only has zones for argentina, brazil, china, hong kong, japan, korea, malaysia,

RE: [SAtalk] Continuing saga of runaway spamd

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Interesting to me mostly because spamc/spamd by default won't even look at a 1.2mb email. I'm interested in how/where that happened. -tom -Original Message- After we upgraded to SA 2.61 as was suggested by this list we had a mail-machine crash again when spamd expanded beyond

RE: [SAtalk] Finding a rule to catch a particular spam

2004-01-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Pyzor and BigEvil nailed both of them. The second one hit a whole ton of RBLs also. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Soper Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:18 PM To: Chris Santerre Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil.cf

2004-01-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Start spamd with -D debug options and then tail -f /var/log/maillog |grep -i bigevil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SAtalk Mail User Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] BigEvil.cf

RE: [SAtalk] Image-only spam

2003-12-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Before you play with the settings, consider updating to the current version of SpamAssassin. You're probably using 2.44; the current version is 2.61. At this point, that much spam getting through would be expected behavior. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AltGrendel Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:54 AM To: SA-Talk Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? Wasn't there a big issue with public folders stripping off

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:41 AM To: Tom Meunier; AltGrendel; SA-Talk Subject: RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn? Interesting... what did you set on exchange to make it do

RE: [SAtalk] importing spam from exchange users for sa-learn?

2003-12-18 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AltGrendel We're running Exchange 2k that was upgraded from 5.5, which was upgraded from ...(you get the idea). Anyway, I'm still seeing the old header style and I'm wondering if it's not an

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
What would differentiate the proposed public corpus from the public corpus at http://www.spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/? -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Denenberg Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Detecting strings of Gibberish

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
http://www.wot.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/detoken.pl Most of the gibberish I see is encoded tracking information. I plugged in my domain name to the little script thingy, saved the .cf file, and it catches 'em like crazy. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Exchange 2000 + SpamAssassin + Postfix

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guentert Matthias I have successfully installed spamassassin on my linux server which runs postfix as mta. Our Exchange 2000 server pops the emails from the linux server which stands in the dmz.

RE: [SAtalk] SecuritySage spam filters and Postfix/SpamAssassin integration

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Porter http://www.securitysage.com/guides/postfix_uce.html I just got some mail bounced by an ISP using this setup and after reviewing the details, it looks like the system is set up

RE: [SAtalk] How do I catch obfuscated characters?

2003-11-13 Thread Tom Meunier
You'll want to look at http://www.exit0.us/index.php/MaskedWordList Take a gander at the link to Chris' Mediocre ObfuScript, which is soon (I hear) to be upgraded to Chris' Somewhat Adequate ObfuScript. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [SAtalk] spamassasin without the mess

2003-11-11 Thread Tom Meunier
You've just described how spamassassin works. So I'm pretty certain the you don't want to sit at a command line, saving your mails to text files, and checking them one-by-one. What is it that you would LIKE to do, really? Chances are someone's already doing it. Do you have a non-*n?x

RE: [SAtalk] Filtering on returned mails not written with my mail client

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
No. How would this be a bug? By definition it would have to be a custom rule, since you've specified that it be user-specific and custom header specific. Such a rule would work for nobody in the universe but Wolfgang Rohdewald. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Is bl.spamcop.net gone?

2003-11-08 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- IIRC, bl.spamcop.net isn't supposed to resolve. Try running an RBL query against it instead of trying to resolve it. Surely it has to resolve to *something* - the NS records have gone as well. Tony No, it doesn't have to. When you query against

RE: [SAtalk] scoring system and values...

2003-11-07 Thread Tom Meunier
The CASHCASHCASH rule tests for the string '$$$' not for the phrase CASH! CASH! CASH! The ADDRESSES_ON_CD rule caught almost as much ham when tested against a half-million message corpus as it did spam. The BLANK_LINES_90_100 caught MORE ham than it did spam.

RE: [SAtalk] Razor2 Custom scores?

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
Since I'm stupid, you'll want to test this thoroughly. In 20_body_checks.cf you'll find: bodyRAZOR2_CF_RANGE_11_50 eval:check_razor2_range('11','50') bodyRAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 eval:check_razor2_range('51','100') tflags RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_11_50 net tflags RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100

RE: [SAtalk] RE: [RD] spam sentences

2003-11-06 Thread Tom Meunier
VSNL is, I believe, the largest ISP in India or at least in the top 2. I'd tread lightly on blocking them if you do business with India at all. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Santerre Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003

RE: [SAtalk] Best Blacklists

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Matt, thanks for this. It's a great resource. However, I'm wondering why the following were scored as zero and thus don't have numbers to support their efficacy or lack thereof: 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.110.00 RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0.000 0. 0.0.500 0.11

RE: [SAtalk] Are these blacklists widely used, anywhere?

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
No, but you can enable it if you like. Their web site tells you how. Just save this text as /etc/mail/spamassassin/something.cf http://www.ahbl.org/using/spamassassin.txt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Featherston Sent:

RE: [SAtalk] a new rule

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
If it's already 100% sure that it's spam, how is it helpful to train it that it's spam? It's not like it's going to be 110% sure that it's spam. It's already trained! Not trying to be a wise-ass, I've just seen this question come up fairly often, and can't wrap my head around it. -tom

RE: [SAtalk] Patterns and load, progress???

2003-11-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Example 1. Use spamc/spamd, it defaults to only scanning messages under 250k and you can change that limit with spamc's -s switch. Example 2. What version of Spamassassin are you running? There's a whole ton of tests based upon the ratio of image to text. -tom

RE: [SAtalk] Problems with bayes forgetting in 2.60

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
John, if you run the email through Spamassassin -tD mail.txt |more then you should be able to see which tokens it's finding, and the weight it's giving. Perhaps that particular email contains tokens which have been found in several learnable hams as well. If you save the output at the initial

RE: [SAtalk] spamd using up all system memory and swap space

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Meunier
-m 15 will limit it to 15 spamd instances. Give that a shot. I'm kinda surprised by how quickly this happens, though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Duval Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, this is the sixth copy of this email that I've gotten. Is it me, is it sourceforge, or is it maybelline? (Yeah, I know it's sourceforge, but I wanted to kvetch) -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Trudeau Sent:

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-25 Thread Tom Meunier
Sweet. 27 hours for that to show up. (And looking at headers it's the ISP anyway, heh) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Meunier Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes always 99%

2003-10-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Even on good mail? Or only on Spam? Because when I see spam, I'm 99% sure it's spam, and a well-trained Bayes engine would be 99% sure also. If it's on good mail that you're seeing 99%, every time, then your database is screwed up and you should start over. -Original Message- From:

RE: [SAtalk] list of test gone

2003-10-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Sorry, I should've left a note. I had brought it to the printers to get a banner made, and thought I'd take it out for a nice ice cream sundae too. It's back now, though. I put it at http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Auto learning and manual blacklists

2003-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier
I have a pretty comprehensive (and paranoid) list of blacklisted from addresses that I *know* will only send spam. Is there any way I configure SA such that these will be used to train the bayes? Make a custom header rule for the domain, and score it with a crazy amount of points. The

RE: [SAtalk] LOTS of mail being tagged wrong

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
Train Bayes with sa-learn --ham using a sizable representative sample of the shipping company's known good email. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HÃ¥kon Nilsen (Exinet AS) Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:21 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes location setting?

2003-10-17 Thread Tom Meunier
That's right. It seems weird, doesn't it? But basically, that setting tells SA that the filenames are /usr/local/share/bayes_* To achieve what you think it should be, you'd want to do bayes_path /usr/local/share/bayes/bayes - funny as that sounds. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin updates

2003-10-16 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- I'm Linux SysAdmin at the company I work for, I always install everything from source. A colleague, a Windows SysAdmin, installs everything on his Linux boxes from RPMs. What does that tell you? :) Tells me we need a larger sample size. I'm a Windows

RE: [SAtalk] Automatic Unsubscribe

2003-10-14 Thread Tom Meunier
It's arguable whether that will unsubscribe them, or confirm to the spammer that they've scored a direct hit, and make your users a more valuable spam target. Think about it: Is someone who just hijacked a Taiwanese elementary school's mail server to send out necrophilia pornography with forged

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
Message- From: Robert Leonard III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:00 PM To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA Thanks for the tip.. I guess it was an addressing/permission issue.. I see now, when I

RE: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-H should list a directory other than the default home directory of the user that's calling spamc. Else, don't use it at all. -m5 should be -m 5 I believe. Other than that, Idunno. Feel free to ignore me. -tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] How to ignore attachments of a certain size?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
How do you call SpamAssassin? Please be specific with your answer. :) If you use spamc/spamd it defaults to only scanning up to 250kb, configurable with the -s switch. No config file necessary, you set it as a switch on the line that you call spamc with.

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
Okay, are you running spamassassin as root? If not, you'll probably want to specify bayes_path in your local.cf - so that when you do a spamassassin -D it reflects the ACTUAL location of the Bayes databases. Then run it again, and see if you actually have zero spams in the database. It will tell

[SAtalk] Popcorn Weeds Backhair

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
So I'm loving the rules http://spamhammers.nxtek.net/ that Jennifer Wheeler wrote , but I'm up against a few (philosophical?) questions, and would like to invite discussion. I've noticed that about 95% of the time when these rules are hit, they're listed as BAYES_99. In this case, should I even

RE: [SAtalk] Too many rules?

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
Call it with spamd and limit the number of spamd processes with the -m switch. For comparison sake, I have a light-volume postfix/spamd gateway server that handles about 1000 messages per hour during business hours. It's a PII-400 with 512mb RAM. I can't give you spamstats time statistics

RE: [SAtalk] SA memory utilization (Was: Evil rules HUGE update!

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ ] 2) Is there any way of setting up logging to know which rules are being hit which ones aren't without grabbing all of the message headers? I'd like to be able to profile which rules are being hit the

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
top-posting Okay, so SpamAssassin is working fine. The mail is properly marked up when it leaves SpamAssassin at the original place SpamAssassin is called. Then the next process is what's marking it as 0.0. It almost looks as if it's running spamassassin twice, once on the original mail and

RE: [SAtalk] RBL check

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Doug, The answer to your question varies depending on what version of SpamAssassin you're using, and what RBL's you're seeing scores on. This is crucial information to answering your question. Since this is a well-documented issue with versions before 2.60, I'm going to assume that, and that

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
top posting again (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena also have spamassassin? That would cause this behavior. -tom - headers - On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:25, you wrote: It's difficult to see

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: O-Zone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:40, Tom Meunier wrote: top posting again (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena also have spamassassin

RE: [SAtalk] 2.60 Problems

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
6 asterisks indicates it's not quite 7.0. Probably 6.9something. You could add up the scores to verify if you really like, but that's what's happening. X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=7.0 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_10,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,

RE: [SAtalk] OT: anti-spam email-only host

2003-10-07 Thread Tom Meunier
Sounds like Postini. Or Messagelabs. postini dot com or messagelabs dot com. Messagelabs is using a modified SpamAssassin, iirc. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Vanasco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk]

RE: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60?

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
It's the first option on the list if you type spamd --help -Original Message- From: Rob Mangiafico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] spamd and -a option in 2.60? In the 2.60 docs, the -a auto whitelist

RE: [SAtalk] 50% Spam Reduction Rate

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
What version of SpamAssassin? You can implement Razor, DCC, RBLs, and train your Bayes up to 200 each of spam/ham to augment the tools at SA's disposal. -tom -Original Message- From: David M. Carney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:09 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] SA's recently slowed down for me!

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
You need to either upgrade to 2.60 or remove your Osirusoft and orbs tests tests as specified in the article at http://news.spamassassin.org. Those blocklists are dead and are waiting until your timeout. -tom -Original Message- From: Jim Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

RE: [SAtalk] spamassassin -tD creates higher score than MailScanner SpamAssassin

2003-10-06 Thread Tom Meunier
So you're saying that when you cut and paste the body of a spam into an email, removing the spammer's headers, SpamAssassin doesn't rate your headers as spammy as the spammer's headers? And you include only the spammy body, and it trips off all the spammy body checks? That's to be expected,

RE: [SAtalk] Highest Score

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Look, there's a poll for this at http://news.spamassassin.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=NS-Pollsfile=index Is it inappropriate to suggest that we see who's got the biggest thingy over there? -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Pyzor in 2.60?

2003-10-03 Thread Tom Meunier
I've been able to re-discover pyzor servers (and it always winds up with the same server) and get pyzor working for a couple hours before the couldn't grok response '...TimeoutErrors' begins again. I've disabled Pyzor and just written it off to my own ignorance. Basically once it starts not

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Automating usage of sa-learn

2003-09-30 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Malte S. Stretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and 3 ways to attach a complete message (as sent by the POP3 server) to a new message. Could you tell me the way to do it with Outlook 2000? I searched for that option on a customers box today, without

RE: [SAtalk] SA WISH LIST Country Identification 2 Digit Codes

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
You could probably make some of that happen yourself by implementing some of the blacklists at http://www.blackholes.us See http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html#spamassassin for usage info. -tom -Original Message- From: Andrew Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes question: Can I change the number of messages required before bayes kicks in?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Why not just go get 80 spams from the public corpus? It'll be not optimal, but it'll be better than forcing it with 120. http://spamassassin.org/publiccorpus/ -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Auto-whitelist (AWL) enable/disable?

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Meunier
AFAICT you'd do auto_whitelist_factor 0 use_bayes 0 will disable bayes, not the (unfortunately named - it's as much an auto blacklist as an auto whitelist, innit?) auto whitelisting feature. I hope if I'm mistaken somebody will jump in and correct me. I remember this being asked a few months

RE: [SAtalk] required_hits 10 email scores a 7 and is blocked

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't block mail. All it does is mark it up for content. That mail seems to have been marked up for spam content correctly. Therefore, your problem is not with SpamAssassin but rather with the product that you've configured to quarantine mail. -Original Message- From:

RE: [SAtalk] problems with 2.60

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
Go check your filesystem rights on those file directories. That's happened to me before, and I was waiting for it to happen this time too, and mysteriously, it didn't. My gateway boxen must be contagious. :) -tom -Original Message- From: Steve Heggood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-23 Thread Tom Meunier
I think the main thrust of his answer was that Google Is Your Friend. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ -tom -Original Message- From: Jim Knuth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] First hit after googling for spamstats and perl: http://freshmeat.net/projects/spamstats/?topic_id=245 thank you,

RE: [SAtalk] Better logging?

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Spamstats does that. http://www.gryzor.com/tools/ -Original Message- From: Markus Gaugusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Better logging? Hi, I'm using spamassassin on our relay server (with postfix),

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
It's not abysmal. You just don't understand it. Most people get in excess of 99% of spam with SpamAssassin. Isn't it great to know that SpamAssassin is so well geared against false positives that you're TRYING to send a spammy email and can't do it? http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html

RE: [SAtalk] Philosophical SA questions

2003-09-22 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Darren, 256 Ham, 1040 Probably Spam (5 points), 256 Almost Certainly Spam (15 points), and 269 false negatives, 0 false positives. Bayes was trained with 16680 Spam, 4092 Ham, 125776 tokens. I have auto-learning enabled, and feed all the false negatives back into sa-learn the same

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Why, Google of course! http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/spamass-milt/ Yes, it works with qmail. -tom -Original Message- From: Tom Macek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on

RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh pooh. Ignore me. Of course Patrick is right; it doesn't support qmail. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:51 AM To: 'Tom Macek'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam Why

RE: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
Absolutely. www.exit0.us/index.php/VirusBounceRules among other things. -tom -Original Message- From: Ivar Magne Auestad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Question for the FAQ

RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Gary Funck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:38 AM To: Spamassassin List Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Scan Message Max Size Define safe - I stick with the default of 250kb and have never had an issue with it. I can't see receiving

RE: [SAtalk] Spam and bounces

2003-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier
SpamAssassin doesn't bounce mail, period. If you want it to bounce mail, please do so. If you don't, don't. Further documentation in your MTA's man pages. -tom -Original Message- From: Regis Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] disable rbls, but keep pyzor, dcc, razor

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Meunier
skip_rbl_checks 1 #even though they're default if installed anyway... use_razor2 1 use_pyzor 1 use_dcc 1 You've disabled the Osirusoft tests, I hope. Those hit everything on the Internet. -tom -Original Message- From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs

2003-09-17 Thread Tom Meunier
http://blackholes.us/ -Original Message- From: Peter Kiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Recognising dynamic rr.com IPs I'm getting sick of all the spam that comes from rr.com and have been blocking

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:37 +1100 -tom -Original Message- http://www.iab.org/Documents/icann-vgrs-response.html --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly

2003-09-16 Thread Tom Meunier
- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] The Verisign folly Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:19:37 +1100 -tom -Original Message- http://www.iab.org/Documents/icann-vgrs-response.html

RE: [SAtalk] SA only ran 1 test??

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
How can you tell it only ran one test? I'd say it ran all of the tests but only hit on one of them. What rule do you feel your example spams broke, that SpamAssassin missed tagging? The only answer to spams like your example is Bayes, RBLs, and distributed checksums such as Razor/Pyzor/DCC, if

RE: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
If there's no BAYES_ test whatsoever, it isn't thinking it's ham. It's not saying anything whatsoever. Probably based upon the fact that it didn't have sufficient tokens or something. Please note that Bayes doesn't use keywords. It uses tokens, which may or may not resemble words. Also note

[SAtalk] Rules for hoaxes

2003-09-10 Thread Tom Meunier
I'm mulling over whether to make some SA rules for some of the more common urban legends and virus hoaxes. Has anyone played with this, that is willing to share experiences? -tom --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
You are correct. It needs 68 more spams. -Original Message- From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ... [snip] Sep 9 10:25:55

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
if you run spamassassin -D --lint it will show you a dbug line: debug: bayes corpus size: nspam = [number], nham = [number] -Original Message- From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Plus I'd just like to know how much further I have to go before the Bayes kicks in

RE: [SAtalk] Not sure if my Bayesian filter is adding to the score ...

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Meunier
Yes, you're not running spamd as root, but you ran spamassassin -D --lint as root. Note the different paths to the bayes databases in your output. -Original Message- From: James Herschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:07 PM To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] osirusoft still working?

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
1. It *is* the case indeed. Look at your email. Since Osirusoft has blacklisted the entire internet, every one would have that test flagged, wouldn't it? Yes. It doesn't, does it? No. Setting it to 0 disables the test. 2. Even if it *did* run the test, if a test were to score zero points,

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn says it learnt from 134 messages butcheck_bayes__db only reports 19 as nspam?

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
only half joking Feed it 1400 more? -tom -Original Message- From: Peter Kiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes I don't expect it to activate in SA until then but how can you get it to over 200 when I feed it 134 emails but the db says it only learned 19?

RE: [SAtalk] Performance optimization for bigger setups

2003-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
currently I am looking for options on how to speed up spamassassin 2.54. Hi Jochen, I've been considering the idea proferred at http://www.advosys.ca/papers/printable/postfix-filtering.html under A Word About Performance quoted The method shown here is an easy and reliable way to filter

RE: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier
http://useast.spamassassin.org/tests.html You've got negative scores all over that thing. Add them up. -Original Message- From: landy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:31 AM To: SA Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] why so low i have been

RE: [SAtalk] Change RBL lookup

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier
There are already tests for SpamCop and NJABL: RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RCVD_IN_NJABL X_NJABL_OPEN_PROXY X_NJABL_DIALUP You can see what blacklists are tested by default, and their assigned scores, at http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html For examples of rules for alternative blacklists, see

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning

2003-09-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Dave, You've got two different things happening here. -Original Message- From: Dave Kliczbor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning | X-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.1

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes filter and autolearning

2003-09-03 Thread Tom Meunier
Hi Dave, hope I can help here beyond parroting what I've read played with... On this one, it's because autolearn learns the message pre-Bayes test. Without your Bayes_90, that message scored under 1.9 points, and so it was autolearned. The other reason that applies here is explained

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes and whitelisting

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
You'll likely find that those words wouldn't be considered interesting tokens - and if they do, they will also be considered interesting tokens for all the ham you receive discussing these topics. The bayesian engine doesn't simply grab words; it grabs tokens, and it grabs them in some really (to

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
Because without a few hundred messages, it would be completely and utterly useless? It would be like meeting an airline pilot who was 5'7 tall and had a scar on his left cheek and wore his hat backwards. Bayes would think that scars on left cheeks were as reliable an indicator of

RE: [SAtalk] bayes feedback

2003-09-02 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Ron Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Because without a few hundred messages, it would be completely and utterly useless? Yes, i do understand that. I guess my complaint is that I would have rather it started working and been somewhat useless (like

RE: [SAtalk] Changing Bayes scoring

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Meunier
Somebody already answered the syntax for modifying your scores in your local.cf, so... The auto-learn bayes evaluator doesn't take the Bayes scores into account when deciding whether to learn as spam or ham. So you could have autolearn threshold set to 10, have your Bayes tests at 20 points,

RE: [SAtalk] Changing Bayes scoring

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Meunier
I don't need to sa-learn it. -tom -Original Message- From: Jon Gabrielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:03 PM To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Changing Bayes scoring Is there a way to change this behavior

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and Razor

2003-08-28 Thread Tom Meunier
http://www.spamassassin.org/tests.html It adds points to the total score, as in any other SA test. See the RAZOR2_CHECK and RAZOR2_CF_RANGE rules. -Original Message- From: Mike Burkhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and Mail Relay

2003-08-28 Thread Tom Meunier
1. Don't delete your user's mail. Just mark it and let them make rules client-side. If you've an intermediary gateway that can do some content filtering, you can use that to delete or quarantine especially high-scoring spam. 2. See (3.) 3. http://lawmonkey.org/anti-spam.html

RE: [SAtalk] Spamassassin and Mail Relay

2003-08-28 Thread Tom Meunier
Oh yeah: If I were running Imail (I don't, but I play a person who does on TV) I'd at least give a cursory glance to IMGATE. http://imgate.meiway.com/ -Original Message- From: John B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SAtalk] Pyzor misconfig?

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Meunier
I must be doing something stupid, or have something misconfigured. My server times out on Pyzor tests about 90% of the time, and on DCC tests about 5-10% of the time. I've set the timeouts to 10 seconds. My average message analysis time due to these tests taking so long is 13-15 seconds. It

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Meunier
Keep in mind when you modify 20_head_tests.cf it'll be overwritten with each subsequent upgrade of SpamAssassin. Your local.cf won't. -Original Message- From: Larry Gilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SAtalk] Custom Rules - spamd

2003-08-26 Thread Tom Meunier
Chris, A google of [reg2rule] and [reg2rule.pl] brings up nada. Throw me a bone? fwiw, I blacklist 'em when they come in, and my average spam score is up in the 40s. -tom -Original Message- From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:12 AM To:

RE: [SAtalk] Sobig virus blocking

2003-08-26 Thread Tom Meunier
http://www.exit0.us/index.php/VirusBounceRules -Original Message- From: Steve Combs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Sobig virus blocking Can someone help me write a rule to block the sobgi

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Meunier
-Original Message- From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:33 PM To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

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