Re: [SAtalk] An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread Satya
On Nov 24, 2003 at 17:05, Logan Harbaugh wrote: >Regarding some of the other comments that have been made, some of you have >said that SA is not hard to install, taking no more than an hour or two to >download, install, configure and begin using. That is consistent with the 10 Actually, it took m

RE: [SAtalk] Re: An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread John Parken
Well, it's very easy to blame the copy editor, especially an un-named one that can't defend herself. Seems awfully convenient, too, given that there is really no point in using SA for the purpose which Logan claims (and which the copy editor supposedly trimmed out of the article). When you stop

[SAtalk] rewrite_subject problems and partial solution? (spamassassin 2.60, spamc/spamd config)

2003-11-26 Thread John Jasen
One of my users has outlook express, and I've not found a good way of doing filtering other than modifying the subject line for her. I installed spamassassin 2.60, and immediately ran into problems with rewrite_subject. It seems that no matter what combination of directives I used in local.cf,

Re: [SAtalk] What level to delete at?

2003-11-26 Thread Gary Schrock
At the moment, on our server we don't delete anything. However, I do plan on eventually making mail with a score over 10 get deleted automatically. As it is, a fair number of our users have already set filters in eudora to trash mail above a score of 10 anyways. After bayes was running and f

RE: [SAtalk] Re: An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread Logan Harbaugh
Title: RE: [SAtalk] Re: An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum I'd say that there's little difference between my saying that SA 2.44 is not as good as commercial products without noting that it's an out of date version and saying that I'm a poor journalist because you disagree with my methods a

[SAtalk] Re: Resolving and hat-checking spamvertised URLs...

2003-11-26 Thread Florian L. Klein
Chris Thielen wrote: > > I just wanted to share my success using your hosted_in rbl rules. So far, > it's hit about 2 spam per day on my primary email account. One of those > would have been a false negative, had it not been for your mod :) Thank you for testing it! :-) I'm still doing some exp

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes expiry

2003-11-26 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Yevgeniy Miretskiy wrote: > Hello, > > sa-learn stopped learning messages. Debugging shows that it can > successfully tie Bayes db, extracts tokens, etc, but never actually > writes data to the database. > > I had a db corruption issue some time ago, so, this could very > wel

[SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread alan premselaar
I've recently noticed something I think is a little strange but I'd like to confirm it with the list. My bayes database seems excessively large at 967M: -rw-rw-rw-1 defang defang61k Nov 26 16:34 bayes_journal -rw-rw-rw-1 defang defang 624k Nov 26 15:58 bayes_seen -rw-rw

Re: [SAtalk] Bayesian 100% on all my mail

2003-11-26 Thread Simon Byrnand
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Robert Menschel wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hello Aaron, >> >> Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 8:58:58 AM, you wrote: >> >> AY> ... Recently I started getting a lot of false positives with SA >> 2.60. >> AY> I noticed that all my mail was g

Re: [SAtalk] bayes_auto_learn 0 doesn't work?

2003-11-26 Thread Chip Paswater
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 09:32:15PM -0800, Chip Paswater wrote: > > I have bayes_auto_learn turned off in .spamassassin/user_prefs: > > ok. > > > I see bayes_journal getting some action: > > the journal, by default, records atime updates for tokens when scanning > occurs. it's unrelated to l

[SAtalk] Re: An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread Bryan Hoover
Oh! It's been a brutal, seat of the pants, knock down, drag out, riot! Things were said. Observations made. And lessons learned all around. It's been exciting to the point of being unnerving. And Logan, hanging tough. I for one, can't wait to read the edtorial letters, and the follow up revi

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: "alan premselaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Spam Assassin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: [SAtalk] bayes database size > I've recently noticed something I think is a little strange but > I'd like to confirm it with the li

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: "alan premselaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Spam Assassin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: [SAtalk] bayes database size > I've recently noticed something I think is a little strange but > I'd like to confirm it with the li

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread McWhirter,Julia
This rule worked thanks, also upgraded to mimedefang 2.39 and spamassassin 2.60 which help with some other spam that was slipping through. Regards Julia McWhirter IT Manager SuperH (UK) Ltd Network House 2410 Aztec West Almondsbury Bristol BS32 4QX Tel : 01454 465661 Fax : 01454 465601 Mobile

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, alan premselaar wrote: > I've recently noticed something I think is a little strange but I'd > like to confirm it with the list. > > My bayes database seems excessively large at 967M: > > -rw-rw-rw-1 defang defang61k Nov 26 16:34 bayes_journal > -rw-rw-rw-1 d

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Re[2]: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/11/14/45FEspam_1.html?s=tc

2003-11-26 Thread Nix
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Evan Platt said: > A mechanic of 2 seater Cessna's wouldn't be repairing a 747 or DC-10. A > helicopter pilot wouldn't fly a DC-10. Why would anything but a experienced > Linux System Administrator be administrating a linux System? Because you have to *learn* to be a system ad

Re: [SAtalk] What level to delete at?

2003-11-26 Thread alan premselaar
On 2003/11/25, at 6:58, Matt Chapman wrote: Hello, I have been deleting at a score of 5 via Mimedefang. I notice that some spam is scoring at 3.5 and 4ish. Is is better to tag at say 3-4.9 and delete if it is any higher? What are some of the setups out there? What score do you delete at? -

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread alan premselaar
On 2003/11/26, at 19:22, David B Funk wrote: ...snip... Yes, that size seems way out of line. It should be using about 30~50 bytes per token, assuming typical token size. According to your 'non-token data: ntokens' that bayes_toks file should be using about 5~6 Mbytes; unless something is whacko, o

Re: [SAtalk] An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread alan premselaar
On 2003/11/26, at 1:37, Frederick M Avolio wrote: At 06:39 AM 11/25/2003 -0800, Brook Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 25 November 2003 05:18 am, Frederick M Avolio wrote: > Yesterday I again tried to install 2.60 on RedHat Linux 7.3. This is your problem^^ I unde

[SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Tong
Hi All, Now I am very new to S.A so please excuse my ignorance. I'm would like to use S.A but I can't seam to find a plug-in or similar application that will allow me to run on windows. I don't have a Unix box so I can't test it at all. Does it need to run on unix due to MimeDeFang? If anyone

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
Do you want to use it with an email client, or with an email server? regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Nick Tong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 Nove

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Bayesian 100% on all my mail

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 12:09:39 AM, you wrote: SB> IMHO Nigerian style spams will always be "Bayes poison" simply due to SB> the nature of the wording of the messages being so similar to normal SB> conversational text compared to

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello alan, Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 11:42:07 PM, you wrote: ap> I've recently noticed something I think is a little strange but I'd ap> like to confirm it with the list. ap> My bayes database seems excessively large at 967M: Yes, this seems exc

RE: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help

2003-11-26 Thread JC
Few more questions: What version of SA are you using? What platform are you running? Have you done a recent upgrade? If so, what version did you upgrade from? -Original Message- From: German Staltari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:07:50 -0500, JC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
i think you'll find it more difficult to integrate it with most Windows MTAs than if you were running something on unix/linux. last i looked getting SA compiled and working on Windows was simple enough, the problem was getting the MTAs to pass mail to it and accept the output.. If you have a litt

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Tong
Hi Paul, On a email server? Thanks - Nick Tong -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings Sent: 26 November 2003 12:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows?? Do you want to use it with an email client, or with a

[SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread Mail Monitor
Hi, I have installed SA on FreeBSD 4.7, I have started spamd and spamassassin (both are in /usr/bin directory); i donot know how to confirm functionality of spmassassin, there is no extra header information in the received mail. Following is my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file: required_hit

Re: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help

2003-11-26 Thread German Staltari
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:37:57 -0500, JC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Few more questions: What version of SA are you using? What platform are you running? Have you done a recent upgrade? If so, what version did you upgrade from? I'm running SA 2.60, RedHat 8.0/9.0 (up2date), fresh installs, on SMP

Re: [SAtalk] report_safe 2 behavior

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
just to update my previous post, text/plain messages are appearing in the orginal email, but all the headers are showing up in the email body as well. Is this supposed to happen? I just want to be able "defang" emails if necessary, otherwise leave text/plain messages untouched.. is this possible t

[SAtalk] report_safe 2 behavior

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
Hello, I am having an issue with the behavior of report_safe 2. I would only like "unsafe" emails to be attached if spam is detected (non text/plain MIME type). However it seems that report_safe 2 attaches _ALL_ spam emails, and then in addition to the spam report, creates an unsafe_report if t

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Chris Santerre
WOW!! I missed this rule. This rule is NOT good. High FP rate!!! All someone has to do is not put a space after a period, and *bang* they are spam. What about abbreviations like USA with periods? --Chris > -Original Message- > From: McWhirter,Julia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wedn

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread McWhirter,Julia
Yes so I found out, but too be fair he did say it might be too restrictive and in my case it is. I am now looking at enabling bayes unless anyone has any other suggestions. Regards Julia McWhirter IT Manager SuperH (UK) Ltd Network House 2410 Aztec West Almondsbury Bristol BS32 4QX Tel : 0145

[SAtalk] Building a bayes database

2003-11-26 Thread Tobin
I was wondering if anyone could help. I run GW 6.5 standalone with SA running on a windows 2000 server with Guinevere. Im building the bayes database and trying to figure out the best way to do it. I have collect 1000+ ham by individually saving them to disk as mime.001, mime 002 etc. I have a inb

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Jennifer Wheeler
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McWhirter,Julia > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:46 AM > To: Gilson, Larry; Marvin Raab > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin > > Yes so I found out,

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:42:07PM +0900, alan premselaar wrote: > My bayes database seems excessively large at 967M: > > -rw-rw-rw-1 defang defang 967M Nov 26 15:58 bayes_toks Hrm. Yes, that is rather large. I would try forcing an expire and see if that helps. If not, I'd see if t

Re: [SAtalk] Odd errors after upgrade to 2.60

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Goodrich
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:40:33AM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > Good morning, > > I've been running Spamassassin since 2.43 and we are quite happy with it. > I just finished an upgrade from 2.55 to 2.60 and seemed to go well. I > upgraded two servers, boith configured identically, with same softw

Re: [SAtalk] bayes database size

2003-11-26 Thread Scot E. Wilcoxon
> Yes, that size seems way out of line. It should be using about 30~50 > bytes per token, assuming typical token size. > According to your 'non-token data: ntokens' that bayes_toks file should > be using about 5~6 Mbytes; unless something is whacko, or you have some > -very- large tokens in there.

Re: [SAtalk] Evil rules, popcorn, etc too much?

2003-11-26 Thread Nix
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Chris Santerre stated: > The FP rate for all of these is just about zero. Has anyone run these on a large corpus to see how it goes? (I've seen no mass-check-style output for these rules.) -- `Me, I want exploding spaceships and pulverized worlds and clashes of billion-yea

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Jennifer Wheeler > > > Yes so I found out, but too be fair he did say it might be too > > restrictive and in my case it is. I am now looking at enabling > > bayes unless anyone has any other suggestions. I have been using Bayes for about 3 weeks to a mont

Re: [SAtalk] report_safe 2 behavior

2003-11-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:17:46AM -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: > Is there a way to use report_safe 2 simply to "defang mime" spam > emails and not attach them all? I thought this was something that could > be controlled but i cant seem to get it to do so. There is no "defang" ability anymore i

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Julia, > -Original Message- > From: McWhirter,Julia > > Larry/Jennifer, > > I have copied the chickenpox and popcorn rules which are > working fine thanks very much Jennifer. Larry my install is > also outside the firewall and therefore needs site-wide > config and not user based

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread McWhirter,Julia
Larry/Jennifer, I have copied the chickenpox and popcorn rules which are working fine thanks very much Jennifer. Larry my install is also outside the firewall and therefore needs site-wide config and not user based and therefore getting bayes working is going to mean collecting a lot of hams/spam

Re: [SAtalk] report_safe 2 behavior

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
so basically if i do report_safe > 0, and the message is text/plain and found to be spam, there is no way of keeping the message in tact without attachment? adam On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 10:38, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:17:46AM -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: > > Is there a

Re: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread Evan Platt
--On Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:40 PM +0530 Mail Monitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have installed SA on FreeBSD 4.7, I have started spamd > and spamassassin (both are in /usr/bin directory); i donot > know how to confirm functionality of spmassassin, there is > no extra header information

Re: [SAtalk] report_safe 2 behavior

2003-11-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 11:02:19AM -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: > so basically if i do report_safe > 0, and the message is text/plain and > found to be spam, there is no way of keeping the message in tact without > attachment? As I said, there are two options: add headers to the message, or encap

RE: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread JC
Check your incoming mail headers for "X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.XX" or X-spam-status. -Original Message- From: Mail Monitor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA Hi,

Re: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:44 AM 11/26/2003, Nick Tong wrote: Now I am very new to S.A so please excuse my ignorance. I'm would like to use S.A but I can't seam to find a plug-in or similar application that will allow me to run on windows. I don't have a Unix box so I can't test it at all. Does it need to run on uni

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Resolving and hat-checking spamvertised URLs...

2003-11-26 Thread Marcio Merlone
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:33:06 +0100 "Florian L. Klein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (...) > --- /usr/share/spamassassin/20_uriip_tests.cf > [...] > > ### URLs hosted on RBL'd servers ### > # > uriip HOSTED_SBLeval:check_uriip_rbl('sbl', 'sbl.spamhaus.org.') > describe HOSTED_SBL Uses a URL whose

RE: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread JC
Actually, I realise now that my answer was to your subject line, and not to your actual question. lol sorry bout that! ;) -Original Message- From: JC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:18 AM To: 'Mail Monitor'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] How do I c

Re: [SAtalk] How can I test my local.cf ????

2003-11-26 Thread mairhtin
I don't use spamd, I use the program. (yes, I should prolly use spamd). The tests I add to the local.cf are picked up and used, but not the header re-write. It's most odd. I'd really like to tackle this and get it solved !! Mairhtin On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:02:45 -0800, Kai Mac

[SAtalk] SPAMC not getting run

2003-11-26 Thread Vee Persaud
Hi, I am very new to Spamassassin. I just installed Spamassassin on a Solaris 7 box. I use Qmail and I'm using Qmail scanner. My problem is that I cannot seem to get SPAMC to run for my mail. If I run the test that was supplied with qmail-scanner, it works (this uses qmail-inject). When I

Re: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:10 AM 11/26/2003, Mail Monitor wrote: I have installed SA on FreeBSD 4.7, I have started spamd and spamassassin (both are in /usr/bin directory); i donot know how to confirm functionality of spmassassin, there is no extra header information in the received mail. Following is my /etc/mail/spam

Re: [SAtalk] How can I test my local.cf ????

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:21 PM 11/24/2003, Mairhtin O'Feannag wrote: What can I be doing wrong? I recently upgraded from 2.5x to 2.6, but I was told that my old local.cf file would still work? Was that person wrong? Sorry for the late reply.. however, you can always verify if your configfiles are valid by running

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Staudenmayer
Pop3proxy with spamassassin works GREAT I've been using it for months and no problems. Install was fairly strait forward. -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:33 AM To: Nick Tong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] SA o

[SAtalk] How to Upgrade auto_whitelist in SA 2.60 to latest db version?

2003-11-26 Thread Khalid J Hosein
Hello all - I've scoured the mailing list, done the requisite Google search, read the docs, but can't seem to find any info on how to get my SA auto_whitelist updated to the latest DB version. SA isn't doing it automatically the first time it sees the old version either. I've successfully used

RE: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Gilson, Larry
> -Original Message- > From: McWhirter,Julia > > This rule worked thanks, also upgraded to mimedefang 2.39 and > spamassassin 2.60 which help with some other spam that was slipping > through. But I think you will get a lot of FPs with that one. C.B.S., N.B.C., B.B.C. --Larry L.G.

[SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread Mail Monitor
Hi, I have installed SA on FreeBSD 4.7, I have started spamd and spamassassin (both are in /usr/bin directory); i donot know how to confirm functionality of spmassassin, there is no extra header information in the received mail. Following is my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file: required_hits

[SAtalk] SA Newbie

2003-11-26 Thread Barb Bautista
Hello, I just finished installing RH9/Postfix/SA can you please tell me: -how reliable the default config files are? -what is the simplest way/recommended way of moderating messages that are being recognized as spam. I do not want to delete messages...but in case a message is incorrectly filte

Re: [SAtalk] How can I test my local.cf ????

2003-11-26 Thread spamassassin
I don't use spamd, I use the program. (yes, I should prolly use spamd). The tests I add to the local.cf are picked up and used, but not the header re-write. It's most odd. I'd really like to tackle this and get it solved !! Mairhtin On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:02:45 -0800, Kai MacTa

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Tong
Right many thanks to: Michael Bell (http://www.openhandhome.com/howtosa260.html) Jason Stauden Matt Kettler Paul Hutchings Rubin Bennett Evan Platt David Funk and others. I now how SA running on windows but I can run the app with a batch file: E:\InetPub\wwwroot\Perl\bin\SpamAssassin

Re: [SAtalk] bayes_auto_learn 0 doesn't work?

2003-11-26 Thread Chip Paswater
And again this morning: [EMAIL PROTECTED] chip]$ ls -la .spamassassin/ total 30048 drwx--3 chip chip 4096 Nov 26 09:33 . drwxr-xr-x 13 chip chip 4096 Nov 26 09:44 .. -rw---1 chip chip 13 Nov 26 09:33 bayes.lock -rw---1 chip chip

Re: [SAtalk] A faster and more scalable matching engine.

2003-11-26 Thread Kris Deugau
Pedro Sam wrote: > hehe, we can give a state to each possible combination of HITS for the > rules. So if rules 1, 3, 5, 7 hit, we give that a state, and if 2, 4, > 6, 8 hit, we give it another state, and so on... I think they call it > subset construction or something... Which is next to useless

RE: [SAtalk] SA Newbie

2003-11-26 Thread Yackley, Matt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Barb Bautista > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:40 AM > To: Spam Assassin > Subject: [SAtalk] SA Newbie > > Hello, > > I just finished installing RH9/Postfix/SA can you please tell me: >

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Tong
Right many thanks to: Michael Bell (http://www.openhandhome.com/howtosa260.html) Jason Stauden Matt Kettler Paul Hutchings Rubin Bennett Evan Platt David Funk and others. I now how SA running on windows but I can run the app with a batch file: E:\InetPub\wwwroot\Perl\bin\SpamAssassin

[SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0

2003-11-26 Thread Smart,Dan
Easynet.nl goes offline on Dec 1 Be sure to set score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0 (unless you rsync this list locally) Another DNSBL death <> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you b

RE: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA

2003-11-26 Thread JC
What do you mean you started spamd AND spamassassin? What commands did you run? -Original Message- From: Mail Monitor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] How do I confirm functioning of SA Hi, I have installed SA

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Resolving and hat-checking spamvertised URLs...

2003-11-26 Thread Chris Thielen
> That looks like a quite good idea, but running on my SA 2.6: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] postfix]# spamassassin --lint > Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: uriip > MM_HOSTED_SBL eval:check_uriip_rbl('sbl', 'sbl.spamhaus.org.') > [EMAIL PROTECTED] postfix]# > > I think my SA d

RE: [SAtalk] SA on windows??

2003-11-26 Thread Bret Miller
> Hi Paul, > > On a email server? > > Thanks - Nick Tong Which server? I'm running it with CommuniGate Pro on Windows. It's awesome! Bret --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more

[SAtalk] couldnt find a good delta atime

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
Hello, I am getting the following errors when running an "sa-learn -D --rebuild" on a 2.6 installation on solaris 2.9. not sure what the errors means, but i cant seem to expire my tokens. Any ideas? thanks adam synced Bayes databases from journal in 1 seconds: 795 unique entries (1115 total e

Re: [SAtalk] Odd errors after upgrade to 2.60

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Goodrich
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:48:18AM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:40:33AM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > I've been running Spamassassin since 2.43 and we are quite happy with it. > > I just finished an upgrade from 2.55 to 2.60 and seemed to go well

[SAtalk] ANN: SAConf 1.2 for Windows

2003-11-26 Thread Michael Bell
Has been released. It's a free GUI for configuring SA. running on any Win32 system. New features - 2.6 compatibility (1.1 was compatible but missed many features) - tons of new stuff added (sql configuration, spamreportheaders configuration, many more bayes parameters, etc) SAConf now supports

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Resolving and hat-checking spamvertised URLs...

2003-11-26 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Florian L. Klein" writes: >Chris Thielen wrote: >> >> I just wanted to share my success using your hosted_in rbl rules. So far, >> it's hit about 2 spam per day on my primary email account. One of those >> would have been a false negative, had it n

RE: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help

2003-11-26 Thread JC
I'm going to guess that you are running spamassassin as an unprivliged user... Based on that, I would like to suggest that you run spamd and spamc on a port higher than 1024. That's what worked for me. Give it a try and let me know how it works out for ya. -Original Message- From: German S

Re: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help PLEASE

2003-11-26 Thread German Staltari
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:30:02 -0500, JC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm going to guess that you are running spamassassin as an unprivliged user... Based on that, I would like to suggest that you run spamd and spamc on a port higher than 1024. That's what worked for me. Give it a try and let me kno

Re: [SAtalk] Odd errors after upgrade to 2.60

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Goodrich
Hm, no ideas? No thoughts? No flames? DAve On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:50:07PM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:48:18AM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:40:33AM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: > > > Good morning, > > > > > > I've been running Spa

Re: [SAtalk] mysql user rules (no local.cf definition)

2003-11-26 Thread Terry Milnes
What do you mean by "user rules"? if you mean user preferences I have preferences in mysql that are not in the local.cf and they do work. Terry Adam Denenberg wrote: I believe Dallas touched on this some time ago when 2.55 was released but not sure of the status. It appears still that in

[SAtalk] mysql user rules (no local.cf definition)

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
I believe Dallas touched on this some time ago when 2.55 was released but not sure of the status. It appears still that in order to have user rules work in a mysql database, they need to exist in the local.cf file still. I have been testing this all day and the only time i can get it to work was w

Re: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help PLEASE

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:48 PM 11/26/2003, German Staltari wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:30:02 -0500, JC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to guess that you are running spamassassin as an unprivliged > user... Based on that, I would like to suggest that you run spamd and spamc > on a port higher than 1024. That

RE: [SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Van Gordon
Why would I want to score this 0? -Original Message- From: Smart,Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:53 AM To: Spamassassin-Talk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: [SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0 Easynet.nl goes offline on Dec 1 Be sure to set sc

Re: [SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0

2003-11-26 Thread Chip Paswater
If I recall the annoucement details correctly, the IP is still going to resolve for a little while (few months?), but will not return any results. Unlike Osirusoft's wildcard positive behavior, I don't see Dynablock's shutdown having any immediate negative consquences. Am I mistaken? On Wed, Nov

Re: [SAtalk] A faster and more scalable matching engine.

2003-11-26 Thread Pedro Sam
On November 26, 2003 12:58 pm, Kris Deugau wrote: > Which is next to useless for even 30-40 rules.  You would have to have > n![1] states for n rules- there is NO way to determine which individual > rules will trigger in advance. Yeah, I wondered about that... I was just proposing how one may be

Re: [SAtalk] mysql user rules (no local.cf definition)

2003-11-26 Thread Adam Denenberg
no preferences work fine.. i mean rules as in header TEST_RULE Subject =~ /testsubject/ score TEST_RULE 100 description TEST_RULE 100 as of now, you need to define these in local.cf, then override them in the DB to make them work. If they only exist in the DB but not in local.cf, they never get

RE: [SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0

2003-11-26 Thread Mike Kuentz (2)
It disables the test. *.Easynet.nl goes offline on Dec 1 (this coming Monday) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matt Van Gordon > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:55 PM > To: 'Smart,Dan'; Spamassassin-Talk > ([EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [SAtalk] Remember to score RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK 0

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:54 PM 11/26/2003, Matt Van Gordon wrote: Why would I want to score this 0? Um.. what part of "Easynet.nl goes offline on Dec 1" did you not understand? dynablock is dynablock.easynet.nl. Scoring the rule 0 prevents it from being queried.. Since this DNSBL will be effectively dead starti

Re: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help PLEASE

2003-11-26 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, German Staltari wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:30:02 -0500, JC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm going to guess that you are running spamassassin as an unprivliged > > user... Based on that, I would like to suggest that you run spamd and > > spamc > > on a port higher than

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin getting around dnsbls?

2003-11-26 Thread John Oliver
I'me getting more than a few spams which should be caught by dnsbls at the SMTP level. Like: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 18:51:33 2003 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from cpe-66-68-241-177.rgv.rr.com (cpe-66-68-241-177.rgv.rr.com +[66.68.241.177]) by mail.sdsitehosting

[SAtalk] Idea for spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Nichols, William
I attended a seminar yesterday about spam.  One of the idea that was pitched as being in a product was training the inbound spam detecting on the patterns of outbound mail.   They talked about their filters looking at outbound mail, building patterns off it, then applying those patterns to

Re: [SAtalk] lock failed: little help PLEASE

2003-11-26 Thread Chip Paswater
Can someone explain to me what this debug log entry means: debug: bayes: something fishy, calculating atime (first pass) I get it every time I run sa-learn --force-expire Is that normal? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giv

Re: [SAtalk] Odd errors after upgrade to 2.60

2003-11-26 Thread Dave Goodrich
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 03:04:39PM -0500, Dave Goodrich wrote: In case anyone needs this info, for the archive; I changed my runscript for spamd to not include the $PATH Taint errors are gone, user_prefs are now being created. I also switched to sockets. run script now reads, #!/sbin/sh PATH=/

[SAtalk] Lint and SaUriCustomRules

2003-11-26 Thread Alan Munday
I'm not sure if this is old news... If I lint with this in the SaUriCustomRules uri MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED /http:\/\/srd\.yahoo\.com\/drst\/.*\* http:\/\/ describe MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED Trying to hide real URL through Yahoo redirect score MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED0.5 I get a shed load of erro

[SAtalk] Re: A faster and more scalable matching engine.

2003-11-26 Thread Scott A Crosby
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:58:19 -0500, Kris Deugau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pedro Sam wrote: > > hehe, we can give a state to each possible combination of HITS for the > > rules. So if rules 1, 3, 5, 7 hit, we give that a state, and if 2, 4, > > 6, 8 hit, we give it another state, and so on...

[SAtalk] Re: A faster and more scalable matching engine.

2003-11-26 Thread Scott A Crosby
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:24 -0500, Pedro Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On November 26, 2003 12:58 pm, Kris Deugau wrote: > > Which is next to useless for even 30-40 rules.  You would have to have > > n![1] states for n rules- there is NO way to determine which individual > > rules will trigge

Re: [SAtalk] Idea for spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nichols, William writes: > I attended a seminar yesterday about spam. One of the idea that was > pitched as being in a product was training the inbound spam detecting on > the patterns of outbound mail. > > They talked about their filters looking a

RE: [SAtalk] Idea for spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Richard Bewley
You mean like having all outbound mail learned as “HAM”?   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nichols, William Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:30 PM To: SA Mailing list Subject: [SAtalk] Idea for spamassassin   I attended a seminar yesterday

Re: [SAtalk] Lint and SaUriCustomRules

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:10 PM 11/26/03 +, Alan Munday wrote: If I lint with this in the SaUriCustomRules uri MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED /http:\/\/srd\.yahoo\.com\/drst\/.*\* http:\/\/ describe MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED Trying to hide real URL through Yahoo redirect score MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED0.5 I get a shed load

RE: [SAtalk] Lint and SaUriCustomRules

2003-11-26 Thread Alan Munday
Matt Well it certainly passes lint with the extra / Ignoring comments and blank lines I count line 21. regards Alan -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 November 2003 23:42 To: Alan Munday; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Lint and SaUriCustom

Re[2]: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello McWhirter,Julia, Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 7:50:31 AM, you wrote: MJ> I have copied the chickenpox and popcorn rules which are working fine MJ> thanks very much Jennifer. Larry my install is also outside the MJ> firewall and therefore need

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] New to Spamassassin

2003-11-26 Thread Chris Thielen
> Once Bayes has begun to work, you can slowly decrease the auto-learn > limits back to defaults (well, I have a problem allowing Bayes to learn > as ham anything with a 0 or positive score, but YMMV), and Bayes will be > mostly self-maintaining. It won't work as well as on systems where every > em

RD: Re: [SAtalk] Lint and SaUriCustomRules

2003-11-26 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 11:10 PM 11/26/03 +, Alan Munday wrote: > >If I lint with this in the SaUriCustomRules > > > >uri MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED /http:\/\/srd\.yahoo\.com\/drst\/.*\* > >http:\/\/ > >describe MY_YAHOO_BOUNCED Trying to hide real URL through Yahoo re

Re: [SAtalk] An Open Letter to the SA-talk forum

2003-11-26 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:44 AM -0500 Satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately, I haven't read the original article (I was hanging out on /. yesterday and picked up some bad habits). For those who missed the link: 5 produ

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