RE: [SAtalk] Why keep caughtspam?

2003-06-14 Thread Shayne Lebrun
The trick we use here for users who don't want their spam is to pipe it, via
a maildrop script, into the Trash folder of their account on our IMAP
server.

Benefits:
1: They can check it via web mail, or via their client if they're IMAP4
users.
2: It gets autodeleted from the Trash folder after a week.
3: POP3 users don't download it; they get what's in their root folder, not
subfolders.
4: Being in the trash folder, it doesn't count against their quotas.

It's the best of all worlds, or at least, the closest I can come to it.
Email doesn't get deleted arbitrarily, but users who choose to trust the
system can do so.

Oh, and our webmail client also has the interface for users to deal with
their per-user settings in a SQL backend. :-)

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 Hi,

 I've got procmail putting spam identified by SA into a caughtspam mailbox.
 Apart from checking it to see if ham has slipped into it, or
 mabye to notify
 Razor of spam that hasn't been tagged as Razor'ed, is there any reason
 why I should keep it for long?

 Regards: Jim Ford

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Re: [SAtalk] Why keep caughtspam?

2003-06-14 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 16:05, Jim Ford wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've got procmail putting spam identified by SA into a caughtspam mailbox.
 Apart from checking it to see if ham has slipped into it, or mabye to notify
 Razor of spam that hasn't been tagged as Razor'ed, is there any reason
 why I should keep it for long?
 
 Regards: Jim Ford

Don't just throw it away, dump it in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, It
might be useful to someone.

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Re: [SAtalk] Why keep caughtspam?

2003-06-14 Thread Jim Ford
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:47:21PM +0100, Yorkshire Dave wrote:

 Don't just throw it away, dump it in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings, It
 might be useful to someone.

Thanks - looks like a good idea. I use slrn as a newsreader - offhand, any
idea how I could dump a whole mailbox into news.admin...etc. - I've not
spotted it in the docs?

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Re: [SAtalk] Why keep caughtspam?

2003-06-14 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Jim Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got procmail putting spam identified by SA into a caughtspam
 mailbox.  Apart from checking it to see if ham has slipped into it, or
 mabye to notify Razor of spam that hasn't been tagged as Razor'ed, is
 there any reason why I should keep it for long?

In addition to what others have said:

1. You can use it to train Bayes.  Even if you are autolearning spam,
   SpamAssassin doesn't learn on spam messages with lower scores, so
   manual training is required for those.

2. Corpus runs.  It's always handy to have a corpus of *all* of your
   incoming email if you want to help with SA development.  Partial
   corpuses (like just the highest-scoring spam, for example) aren't
   good since they skew results.  :-)

Daniel

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