Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)
Jeremy Oddo wrote: There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local law enforcement to determine if this is legal in your area. ;) Jeremy The funny thing is that at the moment I AM looking at refinancing and lower mortgage rates and saw a few spams go by (that were successfully tagged by SA) on the subject. I looked at the emails to see if there was any way to get to the business without going through a tracking link that would show it as being a successful spam and there wasn't, so I just deleted the notes and didn't go to any sites. When I used to get telemarketing phone calls there were times when I was actually interested in the category of product being called about, but I always told the caller that it was too bad they had called because I am actually interested in such a product, but have a policy of never doing business with a company that telemarketed me so they were now out of the running. Steve --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)
Hi, I usually take it one step further and call most spammers who list a 1-800 number, thanking them for suppling further tests we can integrate into SA. If everyone did that once a day, they might get the clue that the majority of their email isn't getting through (especially those clueless newbie spammers whos spam this list). Regards, Rick Jeremy Oddo wrote: Benjamin A. Shelton said: Aw, can't we gather up enough $$ to buy out a congresscritter? I'm sure that we can get hunting licenses extended to spammers those that buy from spammers... can we try? Please? I like the hunting license part. Although I hear that they don't taste particularly well, so you might want to donate the hide instead ;-) It's actually not that bad...tastes like pork...but a little stringy. Whoops! I've said too much! ...and this coming from a vegetarian. I should be ashamed of myself. Oddly, I was thinking of the whole hunting license thing for illegal immigrants. I think Texans would go for it...but that's a whole other e-mail thread ;) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 21:23, Jeremy Oddo wrote: There is, of course, one other thing we need to do: we need to find those people that BUY stuff from SPAM, take them out back and shoot them dead. CAUTION: before implementing said procedure, please check with your local law enforcement to determine if this is legal in your area. ;) Jeremy pr0n spammers, freeloaders, snake oil peddlers etc.. I never met anyone who did business with a freeloader spammer more than a couple of times without getting ripped off one way or another. Spam has only existed for this long due to a constant feed of naive newbies queueing up to be ripped off. The rapid growth of the internet is the only thing keeping spam alive. Sooner or later there won't be any newbies left and spamming will only produce complaints and more filters. Once a spam victim has been ripped off, s/he can easily be 'turned' to a rabid bloodthirsty lart-wielding anti. Nobody likes being defrauded, nobody likes to lose, that's just human nature. Complaining is human nature too, a lot of people just love to complain about anything they dislike. Every spam run must cause a higher level of complaints than the one before it which is why spammers will lose and spam will pretty much die out. The more they send, the quicker they'll fall. The mainsleazers are having 'their territory' destroyed for them by the freeloaders 419'ers and pr0n pedallers, spam victims are learning that spam is everything they did not specifically request, and the bigger spammers are quite rightly being tarred with the same brush. Without the generic viagra and hot teens, we would have a far harder time stopping the big mainsleazers. Don't shoot the spam victims, even the ones who sent money to the spammers. They're still victims, albeit victims of their own stupidity. Have a good laugh at their expense, then show them there is a better way. Teach them how to read headers and report spammers, introduce them to spamassassin, give them the hard sell on the boulder pledge, guide them to nanae if they need to be really rabid :) -- Yorkshire Dave If I'm ranting, sorry, it's the medication -- Scanned by MailScanner at wot.no-ip.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 22:36, Jim Ford wrote: But _does_ it really hurt them. They don't get any feedback - users that install spam filters wouldn't have responded to to the spam anyway, other than deleting it manually. The only difference is that the deletion process is automated by a spam filter. I reckon spammers don't really care about the users that install filters. They get all the feedback they need in the form of reduced profits and increased running costs. Users with enough technical ability to install filters wouldn't have responded, but non-techy users who just got tired of hot teens and viagra and managed to find their way to a filtered inbox are a definite win, in that they will almost certainly start off using default settings, which block more spam than just hot teens and viagra. Granny's dislike of porn spam can have a direct effect on a cell phone spammer's sales. If spammers weren't bothered about filters we would never have seen a spammer attempt to bypass filters, forge mua's, or damage dnsbl's with litigation. I believe spews suffered a DoS over the weekend, sure sounds like someone's bothered. Of course they're bothered, filtering hurts them, and their attempts to bypass filters can hurt them too. Spamassassin's great and works like a charm for me, but we need to put the bite on spammers in some other way! We need to put the bite on spammers in every way. We still need to send abuse reports, submit hosts to blacklists etc, these are all good. Educating and empowering ordinary users is even better, because two can bite better than one, and if you educate a user well they will educate others. -- Yorkshire Dave -- Scanned by MailScanner at wot.no-ip.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was WeTEACH you how to ...)
I'd buy the hide. Tan it, and make a rug out of it ... I could make millions selling Spammer Rugs on ebay... Robert, Hehe. You're right, you'd sell quite a few. You could even have the spammer hides painted with little targets and (jokingly) demeaning slogans about someone's manhood or personal debt which would, of course, encourage visitors to wipe their feet a bit more vigorously when they stop by your place of residence. And the real beauty of this is that the products would essentially recycle themselves because the Spammer Hunters would be inclined to buy back what they sold you for additional target practice ;-) Heck, I know I would! --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
