Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Mark Atwood (Amazon.com) via lists.spdx.org
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Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Richard Purdie
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 14:54 -0400, Dick Brooks wrote: > Thanks for providing your feedback and insights Mike. It seems we > agree on two important points: >   > AGREE: “We can all agree that improving the security of software is > necessary. Consumers deserve protections that they currently do not

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
bleenergyanalytics.com > > Tel: +1 978-696-1788 > > > > > > *From:* spdx@lists.spdx.org *On Behalf Of *Mike > Linksvayer > *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2023 4:19 PM > *To:* spdx@lists.spdx.org > *Cc:* sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo < > swsupplychain...@nis

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Dick Brooks
pdx@lists.spdx.org On Behalf Of Mike Linksvayer Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 4:19 PM To: spdx@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo ; Steve Springett Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:12 PM Brian Fox mailto:bri...@son

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:12 PM Brian Fox wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 3:10 PM David Prater via lists.spdx.org cisco@lists.spdx.org> wrote: > >> Addressing the open-source business model by ensuring that no commercial >> entities will participate in/contribute to open source work for

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread David Prater via lists.spdx.org
@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM You make a good point Brian. Clearly the restaurant owner bears responsibility in your analogy. But what about the case where a consumer takes the tainted cucumbers from the farm stand and gets sick/dies? Who

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
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Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread David Edelsohn
Center +1 914 945 4364 From: on behalf of Dick Brooks Organization: Reliable Energy Analytics LLC Reply-To: "spdx@lists.spdx.org" Date: Monday, July 31, 2023 at 15:27 To: "spdx@lists.spdx.org" Cc: "sc...@ietf.org" Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [spdx] EU CRA is ver

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Krippner Daniel (ETAS-VCS/ETH) via lists.spdx.org
uttgart, HRB: 19033 ​ From: spdx@lists.spdx.org On Behalf Of Dick Brooks via lists.spdx.org Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:05 To: spdx@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org; 'scrm-nist' ; 'swsupplychain-eo' ; 'Steve Springett' Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM Mike, I ag

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Warner Losh
; > Email: d...@reliableenergyanalytics.com > > Tel: +1 978-696-1788 > > > > > > *From:* spdx@lists.spdx.org *On Behalf Of *Brian Fox > *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2023 1:57 PM > *To:* spdx@lists.spdx.org > *Cc:* sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo < > swsu

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Dick Brooks
pdx@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo ; Steve Springett Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 8:05 AM Dick Brooks mailto:d...@reliableenergyanalytics.com> > wrote: Mike, I agree. The CRA is raising questio

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
> *Cc: *sc...@ietf.org , 'scrm-nist' , > 'swsupplychain-eo' , 'Steve Springett' < > steve.spring...@owasp.org> > *Subject: *Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM > > Thanks for providing your feedback and insights Mike. It seems we agree on > two important points:

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Dick Brooks
l: +1 978-696-1788 From: spdx@lists.spdx.org On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 1:25 PM To: spdx@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org; 'scrm-nist' ; 'swsupplychain-eo' ; 'Steve Springett' Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM Dick,

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread David Prater via lists.spdx.org
' , 'swsupplychain-eo' , 'Steve Springett' Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM Dick, We can all agree that improving the security of software is necessary. Consumers deserve protections that they currently do not have. Regulation of the software industry is coming

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Brian Fox
gyanalytics.com > > Email: d...@reliableenergyanalytics.com > > Tel: +1 978-696-1788 > > > > > > *From:* spdx@lists.spdx.org *On Behalf Of *Mike > Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org > *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2023 4:51 PM > *To:* spdx@lists.spdx.org > *Cc:* sc...@iet

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Nick Vidal
> If you think of this in another context, would you as a consumer accept a > free food product that causes cancer to occur? > > Would you accept software that causes a malicious cyber incident to occur? > I think a better analogy would be: if you as an inspector/consumer find spoiled food in a

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-31 Thread Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org
ics.com <mailto:d...@reliableenergyanalytics.com> Tel: +1 978-696-1788 *From:* spdx@lists.spdx.org *On Behalf Of *Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2023 4:51 PM *To:* spdx@lists.spdx.org *Cc:* sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo ; Steve Springett *Sub

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-30 Thread Dick Brooks
alytics.com> d...@reliableenergyanalytics.com Tel: +1 978-696-1788 From: spdx@lists.spdx.org On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 4:51 PM To: spdx@lists.spdx.org Cc: sc...@ietf.org; scrm-nist ; swsupplychain-eo ; Steve Springett Subject: Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-29 Thread Olle E Johansson
While the CRA mentions SBOM in the draft many times, it is not requiring that the vendor provides customers with an SBOM. It says that SBOM is a good tool for vulnerability tracking and opens up for the EU to decide on a recommendation on a particular SBOM format. So yes, it’s mentioning SBOM

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-29 Thread Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org
On 2023-07-27 10:52 a.m., Dick Brooks wrote: Today, all the risks and cost from a cyber attack fall on the consumer. IMO the EU CRA is designed to protect consumers by sharing responsibility for cyber attack liabilities with software producers. The issue IMO is the open source model fails to

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-29 Thread Mike Milinkovich via lists.spdx.org
On 2023-07-26 4:24 p.m., John Sullivan wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 09:21:30AM -0400, Dick Brooks wrote: Very encouraging language in the EU CRA for SBOM adoption and vulnerability monitoring/reporting. Small consolation given what a potential disaster the CRA is for open source / free

Re: [spdx] EU CRA is very supportive of SBOM

2023-07-27 Thread Dick Brooks
Today, all the risks and cost from a cyber attack fall on the consumer. IMO the EU CRA is designed to protect consumers by sharing responsibility for cyber attack liabilities with software producers. The issue IMO is the open source model fails to properly compensate the talented people