Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread Richard Fontana
Hi Jilayne, I can see why SPDX would want to try to have some consistent approach to forming identifiers for related licenses (although I think the value of having a standard identifier is more important than consistency across multiple identifiers). My view is that an SPDX short identifier has

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread J Lovejoy
Hi All, I probably should have explained this to begin with and Richard has now provided some key background, which I’ll add to here: OSI has adopted (and did endorse via a joint public announcement that was probably back in 2011) the SPDX identifiers. This is implemented on the OSI list via t

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread Richard Fontana
On Fri, Jun 02, 2017 at 05:16:01PM -0400, Wheeler, David A wrote: > J Lovejoy: > > Specifically, when adding other BSD-x-Clause licenses, we have tried to > > follow the same pattern for the identifiers as it aids in identifying what > > exactly the license is, which I think everyone finds helpfu

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread Wheeler, David A
J Lovejoy: > Specifically, when adding other BSD-x-Clause licenses, we have tried to > follow the same pattern for the identifiers as it aids in identifying what > exactly the license is, which I think everyone finds helpful!  Hence the use > of BSD-x-Clause- was intentional and thus, why I sugg

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread Smith, McCoy
ne 02, 2017 8:34 AM To: Smith, McCoy Cc: SPDX-legal Subject: Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent) On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Smith, McCoy wrote: > The text for this license is BSD 2-clause, plus a patent grant. > The patent grant is based primarily on the Apache 2.0 patent gra

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-02 Thread Philippe Ombredanne
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:34 PM, Smith, McCoy wrote: > The text for this license is BSD 2-clause, plus a patent grant. > The patent grant is based primarily on the Apache 2.0 patent grant, > with some language from the Eclipse patent grant, and some relatively > slight modifications for clarity an

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread W. Trevor King
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 05:29:52PM -0400, Wheeler, David A wrote: > > So basically “use an exception when the author asks for it, > > otherwise use a new license”. > > Typically the "WITH" clauses are for a separate fragment of text > that can be added to the "end" of a base license as a "rider".

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread Smith, McCoy
: J Lovejoy ; SPDX-legal ; Smith, McCoy Subject: Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent) On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 12:28:55PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote: > On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 11:39:21AM -0600, J Lovejoy wrote: > > As for an identifier, there is no reason to use “OSI” in the >

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread Smith, McCoy
attached markup shows the origin of all the text from the license. -Original Message- From: W. Trevor King [mailto:wk...@tremily.us] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:29 PM To: J Lovejoy Cc: Richard Fontana ; SPDX-legal ; Smith, McCoy Subject: Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread Wheeler, David A
> So basically “use an exception when the author asks for it, otherwise use a > new license”. Typically the "WITH" clauses are for a separate fragment of text that can be added to the "end" of a base license as a "rider". It looks like this license text has it all merged in a single document.

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread Richard Fontana
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 12:28:55PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote: > On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 11:39:21AM -0600, J Lovejoy wrote: > > As for an identifier, there is no reason to use “OSI” in the > > identifier - we have all of the OSI-approved licenses included on > > the SPDX License List. > > Right.

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread W. Trevor King
On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 11:39:21AM -0600, J Lovejoy wrote: > This would not be treated as an exception because it was drafted > (and submitted to the OSI) as a complete license, not as an > exception or separate, add-able text to BSD-2-Clause. While you > raise a good point about the potential diff

RE: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread Zavras, Alexios
“exception” (non-OSI approved, obviously). -- zvr – From: spdx-legal-boun...@lists.spdx.org [mailto:spdx-legal-boun...@lists.spdx.org] On Behalf Of J Lovejoy Sent: Thursday, 1 June, 2017 19:39 To: W. Trevor King Cc: Smith, McCoy ; SPDX-legal Subject: Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent) Hi

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread J Lovejoy
Hi Trevor, This would not be treated as an exception because it was drafted (and submitted to the OSI) as a complete license, not as an exception or separate, add-able text to BSD-2-Clause. While you raise a good point about the potential different ways one might express such a situation as thi

Re: New OSI approved license (BSD+Patent)

2017-06-01 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:57PM -0600, J Lovejoy wrote: > Following our existing pattern for variations on BSD (listed below > for reference), we might want to consider: > Full name: BSD 2-clause plus Patent (could also be BSD 2-Clause with > Patent - as the use of with in the full name is not pro