Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-12 Thread W. Trevor King
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 08:14:30PM -0700, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > I suggest modifying the tutorial at https://spdx.org/ids to address > the issue head-on, with perhaps a explanation on why you would carry > license information in individual files at all. The *only* reason > it's useful to do so

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-12 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
My concern about https://spdx.org/ids is that its current drafting helps to perpetuate the fiction that licenses apply primarily to individual "files", not works, as if files on a filesystem have some real connection with copyrightability, boundries in copyright, and/or how licenses apply to

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 09:52:39PM +, Wheeler, David A wrote: > W. Trevor King: > > I think that would be clearer if, instead of scoping this as “SPDX > > IDs”, you scoped it as “SPDX License Expression Comments” or some > > such. > > Agreed. Perhaps call these "SPDX license comments" - since

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Wheeler, David A
W. Trevor King: > I think that would be clearer if, instead of scoping this as “SPDX IDs”, you > scoped it as “SPDX License Expression Comments” or some such. Agreed. Perhaps call these "SPDX license comments" - since that's what they are? > Along those lines, I wish the comment tag had been >

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 02:59:20PM -0600, Jilayne Lovejoy wrote: > No problem, Steve. I think this all looks great, but we definitely > need to be consistent. The advice we came up with in Appendix V was > pretty well vetted, so I think that’s safe to stay within those > boundaries. > > Along the

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread gary
Way cool  Looks great. Gary From: spdx-tech-boun...@lists.spdx.org On Behalf Of Steve Winslow Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:57 PM To: spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org Cc: Jilayne Lovejoy Subject: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread John Sullivan
Jilayne Lovejoy writes: > Hi John, > > Steve Winslow writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > I've been working on a few pages on the SPDX website on why and how to > use > > SPDX short-form IDs. This is intended to be

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
ins...@linuxfoundation.org> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:52 PM To: Jilayne Lovejoy <opensou...@jilayne.com> Cc: John Sullivan <jo...@fsf.org>, "spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org" <spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org> Subject: Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site Thanks all (and Jilayne,

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 01:39:03PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote: > The centered entries in the table from [11] caught me out, and I > initially thought the beginning ong the “Apache-2.0 AND (MIT OR > GPL-2.0-only)” explanation was a later paragraph in the “Apache-2.0 > AND MIT” explanation. You

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread John Sullivan
Hi Steve, Steve Winslow writes: > Hello all, > > I've been working on a few pages on the SPDX website on why and how to use > SPDX short-form IDs. This is intended to be developer-focused, usable by > someone who isn't otherwise familiar with SPDX, to get them to

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Steve Winslow
Thanks all (and Jilayne, apologies for the multiple copies!) Hi John, Jilayne is correct, I was aiming to frame this as something a bit more "user-friendly" for developers who might not be familiar with SPDX more broadly. I'll take another look at the language from the appendix, and will likely

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
Hi John, Steve Winslow writes: > Hello all, > > I've been working on a few pages on the SPDX website on why and how to use > SPDX short-form IDs. This is intended to be developer-focused, usable by > someone who isn't otherwise

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread W. Trevor King
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 02:56:38PM -0400, Steve Winslow wrote: > I've been working on a few pages on the SPDX website on why and how > to use SPDX short-form IDs. This looks good to me :). A few minor nits: > This is intended to be developer-focused, usable by someone who > isn't otherwise

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Yev Bronshteyn
That looks amazing! Please give a shout when it’s OK to share. From: on behalf of Steve Winslow Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 2:57 PM To: "spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org" Cc: "jilayne.love...@arm.com"

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Steve Winslow
Thanks Sam! Good point on the copyright notice. I'll add something to clarify that those should remain in place. I also think that this site could benefit from an FAQs page to go into more detail on some items. If people have suggestions for questions / answers, feel free to send them my way and

Re: [spdx-tech] SPDX short-form IDs site

2018-04-11 Thread Philippe Ombredanne
Steve: On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Steve Winslow wrote: > Hello all, > > I've been working on a few pages on the SPDX website on why and how to use > SPDX short-form IDs. This is intended to be developer-focused, usable by > someone who isn't otherwise familiar