pape.auth_time versus pape.auth_age

2008-02-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
The PHP library (and examples) from openidenabled.com currently return 
in the Auth_OpenID_PAPE_Response function pape.max_auth_age. Reading the 
specs from 
http://openid.net/specs/openid-provider-authentication-policy-extension-1_0-02.html#anchor10 
this should be however pape.auth_time. The sample consumer seems to be 
happy with that, but I think this to be a mistake...


Can somebody confirm that sending pape.max_auth_age is wrong and it 
should be pape.auth_time instead?


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Re: [OpenID] pape.auth_time versus pape.auth_age

2008-02-02 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
  Can somebody confirm that sending pape.max_auth_age is wrong and it should
 be pape.auth_time instead?

Hi Eddy,

The PHP library implements Draft 1 of PAPE, not Draft 2.  The same is
true of the other openidenabled.com implementations.

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Re: [OpenID] pape.auth_time versus pape.auth_age

2008-02-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Jonathan and Martin, thanks a lot for clearing this. I wasn't aware that 
there is  already a second draft (should look more carefully next time 
;-) ).


Now, since there isn't a way to differentiate between drafts (i.e.  the 
policy URL is http://specs.openid.net/extensions/pape/1.0 until the 
final), what is the best suggestion for implementation? Going for draft 
1 or 2? Most likely RPs will not understand one or the other...


BTW, what's the time frame for the final version? Any estimates?

Martin Paljak wrote:


On Feb 2, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:

Can somebody confirm that sending pape.max_auth_age is wrong and it 
should be pape.auth_time instead?
max_auth_age should be the time in seconds from last authentication in 
the PAPE *request*.


AFAIK Draft 1 had auth_time as 'seconds passed from last 
authentication', Draft 2 has auth_time as 'the timestamp of the last 
authentication'



m.


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Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-02 Thread James Henstridge
On 02/02/2008, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I also wonder why the IDP can't just return the ID. As of now I think 
 it's
 two steps for this, with the RP explicit requesting it? Or am I wrong with 
 that?

When used in directed identity mode, the OP can pick the identity:


http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#responding_to_authentication

Of course, the OP is restricted to returning identities that it is
authoritative for.  This is what allows any yahoo user to enter
yahoo.com as their OpenID identifier while still letting RPs tell
them apart.

My point was that in cases where you do want to limit things to a
single OP, it is worth considering this mode, since it does not
require the user to enter any credentials (username or password) at
the RP site.

James.
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