Re: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Justin S. Peavey
Manger, James H wrote: > > For most RPs there shouldn’t be a high price (if any price). When the > login only gives access to the user’s own resources (be they colour > preferences, reputation, personal details, money…), then any > inappropriately weak authentication of the user by their OP only >

RE: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Manger, James H
The RP is not saying “this is very very important to *me*”. It is saying “in my opinion, this is likely to be very very important to *you*”. Consequently, it is not a contradiction for the RP to also say “I leave it to you as to the specifics”. > Does participating in OpenID mean the RP givin

Re: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Justin S. Peavey
Echoing Kevin's comments from October on this (http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2006-October/000223.html) This model will only fly in the general case when the user or some other non-RP agent is willing to assume all risk/liability for the transaction the user's identity is requesting. Barring t

Re: Comments on Auth 2.0 - Pre-Draft 11

2006-12-12 Thread Joaquin Miller
Thanks, Johnny. Good points. How about one of these: When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST be sent only in the POST body and the parameters processed MUST be only those from the POST body. When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST be sent only in and

RE: [OpenID] Opened IPR Policy Draft

2006-12-12 Thread Gabe Wachob
Well said Phill. We'd like to take an off-the-shelf policy that is comes with an off-the-shelf process (the two are very intertwined) that produces specifications that can be taken to more established SDOs. Once this thing exists, this IPR discussion can be very much quicker. As you've noted in

Re: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Martin Atkins
Paul Madsen wrote: > Is there not a potential contradiction between an RP expressing both of > 'this is very very important to me' and 'I leave it to you as to the > specifics'? > Perhaps, but that is the case in both the "IdP reports" and the "RP suggests" case: either way the IdP is calling

Re: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Paul Madsen
Is there not a potential contradiction between an RP expressing both of 'this is very very important to me' and 'I leave it to you as to the specifics'? If the RP authenticated the user locally and not through OpenID, and the resources it was protecting were of any value or sensitivity, it woul

Re: Comments on Auth 2.0 - Pre-Draft 11

2006-12-12 Thread Johnny Bufu
On 12-Dec-06, at 11:31 AM, Joaquin Miller wrote: >> When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST only be >> sent in and processed from the POST body. > > Does that mean the same as this: > >When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST be sent > only in the POST body

Re: Comments on Auth 2.0 - Pre-Draft 11

2006-12-12 Thread Joaquin Miller
When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST only be sent in and processed from the POST body. Does that mean the same as this: When a message is sent as a POST, OpenID parameters MUST be sent only in the POST body; the parameters processed MUST be only those from the POST bo

Re: [OpenID] Assertion Quality Extension => openid.importance

2006-12-12 Thread Martin Atkins
Manger, James H wrote: > > The user-centric solution is not for the RP to specify a max auth age (or > captcha or email verification or handbio or hardotp…), but for the RP to > indicate the importance of the authentication. The user (with a little help > from their OP) decides how to react (eg

RE: [OpenID] Opened IPR Policy Draft

2006-12-12 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
The problem is not the people who contribute, it's the ones who never join the group or agree to any license because they never intend to make or sell anything. Align with the standards bodies, that way we have the option of going to a standards body later. I have been through the pain here...

Re: [OpenID] Opened IPR Policy Draft

2006-12-12 Thread David Nicol
On 12/12/06, James A. Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Changes and enhancements to the openID standard are > patentable. When the standard was originally proposed, > it was far from clear that it would be widely adopted, > so it is unlikely that anyone patented it in time, so > the original sta

Re: Comments on Auth 2.0 - Pre-Draft 11

2006-12-12 Thread Johannes Ernst
On Dec 11, 2006, at 16:41, Johnny Bufu wrote: > Hi Johannes, > > Josh and I went through the remaining issues, so I have addressed > and/or commented on some of them below. > > For easier tracking I've inserted [josh] after the ones that Josh > agreed to handle. Looking forward to Josh's inpu