RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier

2008-04-02 Thread Paul E. Jones
Dick, I'll give you that one: that's certainly easier. But, does not cause some confusion? After all, one's identity is not yahoo.com, but that is the identity provider. Perhaps the prompts around the Internet ought to Say OpenID Provider: instead? :-) Presently, this variant works form

Re: Using email address as OpenID identifier

2008-04-02 Thread James Henstridge
On 02/04/2008, Paul E. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A solution that matches closer with what the user expects would be to map [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a claimed ID of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. The average user is not going to know what mailto:; is. The mailto: transition would be something

Re: Using email address as OpenID identifier

2008-04-02 Thread Dick Hardt
On 1-Apr-08, at 11:15 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote: Dick, I’ll give you that one: that’s certainly easier. But, does not cause some confusion? After all, one’s identity is not yahoo.com, but that is the identity provider. Perhaps the prompts around the Internet ought to Say “OpenID

Re: Using email address as OpenID identifier

2008-04-02 Thread Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten
Does anyone have the time to write an email - xrds discovery spec so we can formally ignore it? And so people can argue with their dns providers instead of on list? http:// Joseph Holsten .com On 02008:04:01, at 9:30CDT, Paul E. Jones wrote: Folks, I’ve seen discussion here and there

OpenID and Yahoo

2008-04-02 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
Does anyone have a perspective on Yahoo and AOL and their weak support for OpenID? It is good that they are a provider, but shouldn't they really also allow access based on an OpenID issued by signon.com, myvidoop.com and others...

Re: OpenID and Yahoo

2008-04-02 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2-Apr-08, at 6:28 AM, McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) wrote: Does anyone have a perspective on Yahoo and AOL and their weak support for OpenID? It is good that they are a provider, but shouldn't they really also allow access based on an OpenID issued by signon.com, myvidoop.com and others...

RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier

2008-04-02 Thread Paul E. Jones
Joseph, That argument was given to me yesterday, but I don't think you really need to worry with your DNS provider unless you're also trying to operate your own OP. Suppose, for example, you have an ID assigned by myopenid.com. I don't know what URI format they'll use, but let's say it is

Re: IDMML (was RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier)

2008-04-02 Thread George Fletcher
Drummond Reed wrote: Dick Hardt wrote: :-) ... that label would be more accurate. There is lots of work to be done to make OpenID simpler for users. I think that what will be easy for users is something provided by the browser that lets the user click to initiate a login or registration.

Re: IDMML (was RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier)

2008-04-02 Thread Chris Drake
Hi Drummond, I pushed hard for RP identification for 2 or 3 months back around October 2006. If anyone wants to go back through the archives, there's a pile of other important reasons to have some way that an IdP and/or browser agent can identify an OpenID-enabled site. The antique thread below

RE: IDMML (was RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier)

2008-04-02 Thread Drummond Reed
Chris, I remember that well, and I agree that it makes a lot of sense. I think when this is combined with George's concept of the other ways in which a local identity agent can assist the use, then IDMML really starts to gain some legs. See also my reply to George. =Drummond -Original

RE: IDMML (was RE: Using email address as OpenID identifier)

2008-04-02 Thread Drummond Reed
George Fletcher wrote: I think relying party sites that support OpenID could do more to make it clear on their home pages that they support OpenID (as often it's hidden behind another click). This could be as simple as some link tags that advertise support for OpenID. Maybe a link to