Discovery Coordination Report, Dec 5th 2008

2008-12-05 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
[Originally posted to the Metadata Discovery Coordination Group]


* Link Relations and HTTP Header Linking

Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-03
Author: Mark Nottingham
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Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/
Org: IETF

The Link draft revives the RFC 2068 Link header, as well as attempts to 
standardize link relationships between HTTP, HTML, and ATOM. The recently 
published revision of the spec switched the focus from the HTTP Link header to 
'typed link relationships'. The new draft inspired an active debate on the list 
with focus on the following topics:

- Relationship between 'rel' and 'rev' and their semantic meaning
- The authoritative nature of the Link header and various attributes
- The context of the link to be between 'representation->resource' or 
'resource->resource' (or even 'representation->representation')

The link concept is the most fundamental building block for discovery. With the 
draft taking a wider focus on typed links in general, not just the HTTP header, 
this work is now positioned as the centerpiece of the discovery discussion. A 
-04 draft is expected soon.


* /site-meta: Site-Wide Metadata for the Web

Document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-site-meta-00.txt
Authors: Mark Nottingham, Eran Hammer-Lahav
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Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-talk/
Org: IETF

/site-meta provides a known-location-based solution for providing site-wide 
metadata. In practice this translate into a list of links for a given website 
at the authority level (domain name). Some view this solution as a registry to 
avoid new known-location solution by creating one final known-location document.

The /site-meta proposal came out of multiple discussions and as a result of 
trying to solve the 'dynamic mapping' option explained in 'Discovery and HTTP' 
[1]. Dynamic mapping is the idea of proving a map or template that can 
transform a resource URI to its descriptor URI. A map is simply a 
template-based link where the linked resource URI is generated using a template 
language instead of being explicitly specified. The overall idea is tightly 
coupled with typed links.

The discussion about /site-meta is currently focused on:

- The authority an HTTP server in general and /site-meta in particular have to 
provide descriptors/metadata about non-HTTP URIs. This is related to the OpenID 
use case of wanting to use email addresses (mailto URIs) as identity 
identifiers which requires a way to obtain a resource descriptor (currently 
OpenID uses the XRDS format) from a non-HTTP URI.
- The document format of /site-meta. The -00 draft defines a new and very 
simple XML-based schema. A proposal has been made to use a simple 
one-link-per-line text format instead.
- The mechanism in which /site-meta will support URI templates (template-based 
links). The discussion is in its early stage and will focus on whether 
/site-meta should allow such links (at all), simply enable the use case through 
future extensions (not prevent it), or directly address the use case.
- Should there be a fallback mechanism when failing to obtain the /site-meta 
document for example.com to www.example.com. Consensus seems to be that this is 
an application specific need and not part of the generic solution.


* Uniform Access to Information About

Document: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/more-uniform-access.html
Author: Jonathan Rees
List: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
Org: W3C

The W3C TAG (Technical Architecture Group) is scheduled to hold a face-to-face 
meeting Dec 9-11 in Cambridge, MA. This draft has been submitted as the basis 
for discussion on the topic of locating 'information about' resources. The work 
originated from past discussions related to the POWDER specification from the 
W3C (see below). The TAG is trying to address the discovery topic from a 
high-level architectural stand point which is usually different from the 
discussion over technical details (header format, parameter names, etc.). Such 
discussions tend to be more "philosophical" than implementation-based, which 
gives a great complimentary perspective to this work.

The topics discussed in this draft:

- Use of Link header and elements to identify the location of a resource 
descriptor (information about).
- Relationship between the resource URI scheme and the use of HTTP for 
performing discovery itself.
- Interaction with HTTP status codes.
- Trust issues (authority and rights).

The W3C TAG is expected to produce some written outcome from this upcoming 
discussion. It is not known at this point what level of output will be 
agreed-upon and produced and the timeline for that.


* POWDER: Protocol for Web Description Resources

Document: http://www.w3.org/TR/powder-dr/
Editors:  Phil Archer, Kevin Smith, Andrea Perego
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Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/

RE: P&C Insurance Carriers

2008-12-05 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
I would think the "membership" of Japan in P&C would be a different
audience than in the US. Maybe we should keep the conversations separate
but leverage the same "playbook".
 
I do hope that the "vendors" on this forum would encourage their P&C
insurance customers to participate as well...



From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:40 PM
To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
Cc: specs@openid.net
Subject: Re: P&C Insurance Carriers


That sounds interesting. 

We have some member companies from P&C insurance in OpenID Japan as
well, so I might able to cordinate something with you. 

=nat


On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:31 AM, McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am attempting to put together a discussion amongst "employees"
of P&C
insurance carriers to discuss scenarios for using OpenID for
independent
insurance agents. Does anyone on this list know of employees at
carriers
that have an understanding at a technical level regarding
OpenID?

NOTE: I am not interested in turning this into a vendor lead
generation
mechanism.

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