Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-11 Thread Nat Sakimura
; 'Nat Sakimura'; 'John Bradley'; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group) I'd advocate for waiting until all of the discovery work occurring in OASIS, IETF, and W3C shakes out before we make changes to how OpenID

Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-10 Thread Breno de Medeiros
(was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group) I'd advocate for waiting until all of the discovery work occurring in OASIS, IETF, and W3C shakes out before we make changes to how OpenID discovery works. I'd much rather make this sort of change once rather than twice. --David

Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-06 Thread Nat Sakimura
*To:* Drummond Reed *Cc:* sappe...@gmail.com; 'Nat Sakimura'; 'John Bradley'; specs@openid.net *Subject:* Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group) I'd advocate for waiting until all of the discovery work occurring in OASIS, IETF, and W3C shakes out

RE: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-05 Thread Drummond Reed
@openid.net Subject: Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group) I'd advocate for waiting until all of the discovery work occurring in OASIS, IETF, and W3C shakes out before we make changes to how OpenID discovery works. I'd much rather make this sort

Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-04 Thread Drummond Reed
Sakimura Cc: John Bradley; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Nat Sakimura n-sakim...@nri.co.jp wrote: 2. Separation of OP into Discovery Service and Authentication Service. In the current terminology, OP spans both

Re: Separation of Discovery from AuthN (was Proposal to form Discovery Working Group)

2009-01-04 Thread David Recordon
Bradley; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Nat Sakimura n- sakim...@nri.co.jp wrote: 2. Separation of OP into Discovery Service and Authentication Service. In the current terminology, OP spans both Discovery Service

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-27 Thread David Fuelling
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Nat Sakimura n-sakim...@nri.co.jp wrote: 2. Separation of OP into Discovery Service and Authentication Service. In the current terminology, OP spans both Discovery Service and Authentication Service. We should be explicit about it. +1. I would like to

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread David Recordon
Agreed with Breno here. We're going to have to make a change to OpenID discovery at some point over the next year as other groups finish their evolutions of Yadis, XRDS, etc. I like this being a separate WG since it means that the core Auth spec can choose to move to using it at a later

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread Breno de Medeiros
For the time being, I would be happy if the 2.1 spec moved all the references to discovery to a second document. The first version of the separate document would just clone the current approach to discovery in the 2.0 spec. If the updated version that explains XRD discovery is available before

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread Breno de Medeiros
BTW, the discovery WG proposal does not appear in the new version of the wiki. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Breno de Medeiros br...@google.com wrote: For the time being, I would be happy if the 2.1 spec moved all the references to discovery to a second document. The first version of the

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread David Recordon
Can you please put it on http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AOpenID_Discovery? Thanks, --David On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Breno de Medeiros wrote: BTW, the discovery WG proposal does not appear in the new version of the wiki. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Breno de Medeiros

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-22 Thread Breno de Medeiros
Done. Also updated the status of both the Discovery and the AX 2.0 WG to say status = Draft charter submitted for consideration by the specs council I have emailed the OpenID spec with the proposed charters, so I understand that the above status description is accurate. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008

Re: Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-20 Thread Breno de Medeiros
It is part of the scope of this group to develop a best-practices guidance for transition from YADIS to XRD discovery. Full backward-compatibility is not a goal, since at least one new mechanism for publishing discovery information is expected to make part of XRD discovery (dynamic mapping type),

Proposal to form Discovery Working Group

2008-12-19 Thread Mike Jones
Can you add a clear statement to the draft charter that implementations already using Yadis will remain compatible with the output of this working group, since, as I understand it, XRDS-Simple is intended to be compatible with Yadis? Or is backwards-compatibility with existing OpenID 2.0