RE: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-27 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
sage- From: Paul Madsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:23 PM To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: OpenID 3.0 in a B2B case, would not the insurance agency be the OP, and its identity carried through the relevant assertion fields? As Mas

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread NISHITANI Masaki
f the agent but also >> the insurance agency, the insurance agent is employed by. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: NISHITANI Masaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 AM >> To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) >> Cc: specs@openi

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread Paul Madsen
gt; From: NISHITANI Masaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 AM > To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) > Cc: specs@openid.net > Subject: Re: OpenID 3.0 > > Let me confirm a point. > > On #1, do you mean to enforce OpenID to control the identity-hol

RE: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
: NISHITANI Masaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 AM To: McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: OpenID 3.0 Let me confirm a point. On #1, do you mean to enforce OpenID to control the identity-holders are permitted to access what kind of

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread NISHITANI Masaki
Let me confirm a point. On #1, do you mean to enforce OpenID to control the identity-holders are permitted to access what kind of content or service on RP or provide some kind of help making RP's decision easier? I feel it is natural for RP to do access-control be itself, but on the other

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-08 Thread David Recordon
+1. Let's get 2.0 deployed and figure out what it might be lacking before just starting on 3.0. On Feb 3, 2008, at 11:05 PM, Johannes Ernst wrote: > Amen. Let's build (optional) extensions, and only if that absolutely > does not work for an essential feature, meekly suggest that the > smallest

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-04 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) wrote: One of the scenarios that reputation would need to consider is the security of all channels. For example, in my role I may deem that I will only trust interactions that occurred 100% over SSL. If someone specified an HTTP Open ID (e.g. http://james.myopenid.com

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-04 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) wrote: The provider authentication policy extension handles half of this already (telling you what checking the OP did). It does not cover the trust issue though, so without a pre-existing trust relationship there is no reason to believe the PAP assertions. Right

RE: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-04 Thread McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT)
I'm not sure what there would be to say in the spec about this: SQL injection is not party of the standard, but rather a feature of some implementations :) [JFM] I agree that many of the ways that have been implemented to date are insecure and that many of the implementors would be well served by

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-04 Thread Nat Sakimura
u may want to read it as well. http://www.sakimura.org/en/modules/wordpress/index.php?p=30 Re: OpenID 3.0 While we were writing (are still writing) OpenID Trusted data Exchange (TX) proposal, we started to feel that if we introduce Reputation Service appropreately, we can

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-03 Thread Johannes Ernst
Amen. Let's build (optional) extensions, and only if that absolutely does not work for an essential feature, meekly suggest that the smallest possible set of changes be made to an existing spec. Note that any term such as "OpenID 3.0" is mostly a marketing / branding term, just like "OpenID

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-03 Thread James Henstridge
On 04/02/2008, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > James Henstridge wrote: > > Of course, the OP is restricted to returning identities that it is > > authoritative for. This is what allows any yahoo user to enter > > "yahoo.com" as their OpenID identifier while still letting R

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-03 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
James Henstridge wrote: Thanks for your reply... When used in directed identity mode, the OP can pick the identity: http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0.html#responding_to_authentication Of course, the OP is restricted to returning identities that it is authoritative for. Th

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-02 Thread James Henstridge
On 02/02/2008, Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I also wonder why the IDP can't just return the ID. As of now I think > it's > two steps for this, with the RP explicit requesting it? Or am I wrong with > that? When used in directed identity mode, the OP can pick the id

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-02 Thread Martin Atkins
I apologise that this message doesn't directly address any of the points you've made, but others have been doing that. I just want to make a general point: In my opinion, we should resist the urge to start specing "OpenID 3.0" (aka OpenID vNext) and try to do everything else that needs to be do

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-01 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Yes, I also wonder why the IDP can't just return the ID. As of now I think it's two steps for this, with the RP explicit requesting it? Or am I wrong with that? James Henstridge wrote: On 02/02/2008, Kevin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 08:51 +1100, James Henstridg

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-01 Thread James Henstridge
On 02/02/2008, Kevin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 08:51 +1100, James Henstridge wrote: > > > 5. A way for OpenID relying parties to filter out Ops. In a business > > > scenario, if I run the Sun employee store, I may only want the Sun OP to > > > talk with me. > > > > T

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-01 Thread Kevin Turner
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 08:51 +1100, James Henstridge wrote: > > 5. A way for OpenID relying parties to filter out Ops. In a business > > scenario, if I run the Sun employee store, I may only want the Sun OP to > > talk with me. > > This is already possible with OpenID 2.0: [snip] This is already p

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-01 Thread James Henstridge
On 02/02/2008, McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Figured I would ask if anyone is interested in brainstorming the next > version of OpenID and how it can be used in Enterprise B2B settings and not > solely focusing on consumerish interactions. Some things that I would like >

Re: OpenID 3.0

2008-02-01 Thread Hans Granqvist
I'm not sure what the new intellectual property policy means as regards to discussing on the mailing lists. Do I implicitly agree to this policy by posting ideas here? Can someone explain? More info at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg2.html Thanks, Hans On 2/1/08, McGovern,