Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-18 Thread Johannes Ernst
On Oct 17, 2006, at 15:16, Recordon, David wrote: As I said back in September, I'm only tracking proposals listed on the wiki page. :) We have a process, yea! More power to the guy who gave us a process!!! Let's drive it to a conclusion, shall we? ;-) Cheers, Johannes. Johannes Ernst Ne

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
> > --David > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Hardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:25 PM > To: Recordon, David > Cc: Josh Hoyt; specs@openid.net > Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At > > > On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Recordon, David
yt; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > And here are my votes: > > Request nonce and name > * Take no action So you are saying to NOT rename the parameter? +1 rename nonce to response_nonce +1 to put request_

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 2:30 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, authentication is optional in the spec, so perhaps we should >> pull that out and make it an extension? >> In order to just do attribute exchange, we have it so that the RP can >> decide NOT t

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, authentication is optional in the spec, so perhaps we should > pull that out and make it an extension? > In order to just do attribute exchange, we have it so that the RP can > decide NOT to request an identifier. Honestly, I think that'd

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 11:52 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> * Authentication Age >> >> >> - Re-proposed today adding clarity in motivation, general >> >> >> consensus is >> >> >> needed to add to specification. >> >> > >> >> > -1 >> > >> > There is n

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> * Authentication Age > >> >> - Re-proposed today adding clarity in motivation, general > >> >> consensus is > >> >> needed to add to specification. > >> > > >> > -1 > > > > There is no reason for this to be in the core. I could make more >

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 17-Oct-06, at 10:30 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that >> I (and others) understand? > > Sure. I'll try to be brief. Thanks! > >> > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/17/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that > I (and others) understand? Sure. I'll try to be brief. > > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * Request Nonce and Name > >> - Has been partially i

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
Josh, would you elaborate on the reasoning behind your votes so that I (and others) understand? On 16-Oct-06, at 11:21 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > Here are my reactions to what's outstanding: > > On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Request Nonce and Name >> - Has been parti

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 16-Oct-06, at 3:24 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > And here are my votes: > > Request nonce and name > * Take no action So you are saying to NOT rename the parameter? +1 rename nonce to response_nonce +1 to put request_nonce in an extension for RP identity related functionality > Authentica

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 15-Oct-06, at 7:25 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > Hi Chris, > The rush is that 2.0 has been in a drafting phase for almost six > months > now, with draft five being posted at the end of June. While we > certainly can continue taking the time to make everyone happy, we > ultimately will never

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-17 Thread Dick Hardt
On 16-Oct-06, at 11:21 AM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > >> * Bare Request >> - Proposed, no discussion yet. > > -0 (YAGNI) Sorry, I don't know what YAGNI means ... ___ specs mailing list specs@openid.net http://openid.net/mailman/listinfo/specs

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Drummond Reed
Recordon, David Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:24 PM To: Josh Hoyt; specs@openid.net Subject: RE: Summarizing Where We're At And here are my votes: Request nonce and name * Take no action Authentication age * -1, write as an extension first Remove setup_url * 0 for removing, +1 for a

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Mike Glover
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:24:25 -0700 "Recordon, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Change default session type > * +1 I'm not sure what changing the default buys us. The RP still has to create a public modulus and send it in the request in order to use DH, so there's still a positive action

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Granqvist, Hans
I want to avoid the "wait-I-thought-we-decided-something-else" or "ahh-yes-seems-we-forgot-it-had-an-impact-there" delays . . . Spec work gain tremendously by unambiguous up-front definitions of what *exactly* is voted on. A good way to do this is to force the vote to be on an explici

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Recordon, David
two-identifier Change default session type * +1 Bare request * 0 --David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:21 AM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We&#x

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-16 Thread Josh Hoyt
Here are my reactions to what's outstanding: On 10/15/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Request Nonce and Name > - Has been partially implemented, openid.nonce -> > openid.response_nonce, no agreement on the need of a request nonce > specifically, rather discussion has evolved in

RE: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-15 Thread Recordon, David
--Original Message- From: Chris Drake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:09 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Summarizing Where We're At Hi David, What is the rush for? There's a lot of unhappy people here due to missing protocol elements

Re: Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-15 Thread Chris Drake
Hi David, What is the rush for? There's a lot of unhappy people here due to missing protocol elements. I for one believe the lack of privacy considerations is an entire OpenID "killer". Is there a reason why you've omitted my IdP-initiated login proposal from your short list (also known as "boo

Summarizing Where We're At

2006-10-15 Thread Recordon, David
So previously I had set the goal of the final draft coming out last Friday, though we've missed that. I'm resetting this bar to Wednesday which means we need to wrap up discussion on proposals where there is general consensus as well as accept that some proposals will not make it into this version