Re: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-04 Thread Dick Hardt
On 3-Oct-06, at 11:48 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > On 10/3/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > * Authentication age >> > (http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2006-September/000141.html) >> > Still being discussed, varying opinions on if the spec >> mandates >> > this will IdPs cooperat

Re: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-03 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/3/06, Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Authentication age > > (http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2006-September/000141.html) > > Still being discussed, varying opinions on if the spec mandates > > this will IdPs cooperate. Proposal of having it as an extension. > > +1 - per

RE: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-03 Thread Drummond Reed
send tonight.) =Drummond -Original Message- From: Jonathan Daugherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:58 AM To: Drummond Reed Cc: 'Josh Hoyt'; 'Recordon, David'; specs@openid.net Subject: Re: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Pr

Re: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2-Oct-06, at 4:46 PM, Recordon, David wrote: > * IdP-supported Delegation > (http://openid.net/pipermail/specs/2006-September/02.html) > Postponed as it changes a fundamental way in which delegation is > architected in that currently the IdP has no way to know that > delegation > is

Bare Response (was: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2-Oct-06, at 5:34 PM, Josh Hoyt wrote: > > * Bare response / bare request (adds complexity) > -0.5 I'm not convinced that it's necessary (there are other ways to > do it that don't make the spec more complicated) How does it add complexity? If the return_to value is NULL/blank/ missing, th

RE: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-03 Thread Kevin Turner
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 22:52 -0700, Drummond Reed wrote: > Although it's easy to dismiss the privacy issue, there *can* be use > cases under which an end-user may not want to reveal to their IP the > identifier they present to the RP. The problem is, the mapping of RP-facing-identifier to IdP-facin

Re: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-03 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
# Although it's easy to dismiss the privacy issue, there *can* be use # cases under which an end-user may not want to reveal to their IP the # identifier they present to the RP. What is an example of such a use case? -- Jonathan Daugherty JanRain, Inc. ___

Re: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Johannes Ernst
On Oct 2, 2006, at 22:07, Josh Hoyt wrote: On 10/2/06, Johannes Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It appears to me that OpenID should be able to do the same thing that we've been doing in LID: "one-way" nonces. This is the way that it's currently written up in the spec. When I wrote it up I h

RE: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Drummond Reed
at any day this week (except Thurs. 4-6PM PT, which is the XRI TC telecon). =Drummond -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:44 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: What is delegation for?

Re: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/2/06, Johannes Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears to me that OpenID should be able to do the same thing that > we've been doing in LID: "one-way" nonces. This is the way that it's currently written up in the spec. When I wrote it up I had LID nonces in mind. The current proposal

Re: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Johannes Ernst
L PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:44 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals) On 10/2/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * IdP-supported Delegation While it reduces co

RE: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Recordon, David
.html --David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:44 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals) On 10/2/06, Recordon, David <[EM

What is delegation for? (was Re: Wrapping Up Proposals)

2006-10-02 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/2/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * IdP-supported Delegation > While it reduces complexity, it means that each IdP now has to > handle delegated identifiers as well. As the point of delegation is to > use an identifier your IdP doesn't assert, for whatever reason, I

RE: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-02 Thread Recordon, David
D] On Behalf Of Josh Hoyt Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:35 PM To: Recordon, David Cc: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Wrapping Up Proposals On 10/2/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreement? Disagreement? Generally agreed, though I'd like to see a verdict on IdP-sup

Re: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-02 Thread Josh Hoyt
On 10/2/06, Recordon, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreement? Disagreement? Generally agreed, though I'd like to see a verdict on IdP-supported delegation. I think that it's a good idea to put the bar high for putting new stuff in the spec. The spec has been in the works for a long time, an

RE: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-02 Thread Recordon, David
Yeah, my mis-type on the SIGNALL. --David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of larry drebes Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:57 PM To: specs@openid.net Subject: Re: Wrapping Up Proposals +1 to fully vetting existing proposals and wrapping up

Re: Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-02 Thread larry drebes
+1 to fully vetting existing proposals and wrapping up this week. I don't think anyone is -1 on removing SIGNALL. larry- Recordon, David wrote: > Since it is now October, I'm looking to have us quickly wrap up the > proposals on the table and not add any additional (unless of course > things com

Wrapping Up Proposals

2006-10-02 Thread Recordon, David
Since it is now October, I'm looking to have us quickly wrap up the proposals on the table and not add any additional (unless of course things come up during implementations); though we shouldn't rush discussion either. Here is my read on the discussion thus far: http://www.lifewiki.net/openid/Ope