Re: [spectre] futurlab hungary

2021-07-03 Diskussionsfäden János Sugár
Title: Re:futurlab hungary


dear zeljko, patrice et al,

    sorry
for the late reaction, and another sorry for the lots of urls, but the
illiberal reality produces every day something new and
depressing:

Orban's dirty little trick: Conflating pedophilia with
homosexuality
https://kafkadesk.org/2021/06/13/orbans-dirty-little-trick-conflating-pedophilia-with-homosexuality/

Hungary Adopts Child Sex Abuse Law That Also Targets L.G.B.T.
Community
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/15/world/europe/hungary-child-sex-lgbtq.html

and concerning the Fudan university a brave act:
the mayor of Budapest names streets at planned Chinese university
after Uyghurs, Hong Kong
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/budapest-names-streets-planned-chinese-university-after-uyghurs-hong-kong-2021-06-02/

+

Orbán: government will appoint people
with "national worldview" to lead Hungarian
universities
https://insighthungary.444.hu/2021/05/06/orban-government-will-appoint-people-with-national-worldview-to-lead-hungarian-universities

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/orban-seen-entrenching-right-wing-dominance-through-hungarian-university-reform-2021-04-26/

Hungary Transfers 11 Universities to
Foundations Led by Orban Allies. The transfer, accompanied by billions
of euros in state assets, will enable the prime minister and his
supporters to exert long-term influence.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/27/world/europe/hungary-universities-orban.html?referringSource=articleShare

"They have essentially seized every major institution in
society"-Hungary's university takeover
https://www.economist.com/podcasts/2021/04/30/they-have-essentially-seized-every-major-institution-in-society-hungarys-university-takeover

Orbán has begun taking steps to preserve
his power
https://telex.hu/english/2021/05/04/orban-has-begun-taking-steps-to-preserve-his-power



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Re: [spectre] on Hungary

2018-04-13 Diskussionsfäden heath bunting
here in the United Kingdom (UK) [the key partner in the United States of 
America Empire (USAE)], its seems unfair to expect the Hungarian people to 
solve the Syrian refugee crisis, which has been caused by the actions of 
the USAE, while the Hungarian people have had no material benefits from 
these conquests


the UK has a long history of imperialism and dealing with both the 
benefits and negative effects


on the other hand, i don't see Hungary in this mode

labelling non-imperial nation states as racist or corrupt instead of 
attacking the much larger organised criminal network of the USAE seems

dis-proportionate

the same goes for expecting Swedish people to integrate 100,000s of north 
Africans - its wrong to denounce them as racist



perhaps of interest

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/myth-european-democracy-shocking-revelation

but i would be concentrating on this today

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/taking-world-brink-annihilation


hope all is well



On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Andreas Broeckmann wrote:


janos,

it is weird to read this, but isn't it clear that these things are happening? 
and isn't the really worrying thing that hungarians have voted for fidesz 
(party, leader, and candidates) despite the likelihood of this kind of 
manipulation of public opinion?


i don't want to sound fatalistic, but the worrying thing is that while 
telling the truth is still important, it does not seem to make much of a 
difference...


ok, yes, we have to keep on telling the truth, searching, telling...

excuse the fatalistic glitch.

regards,
-a



Am 13.04.18 um 11:29 schrieb János Sugár:

*Hungarian journalists admit role in forging anti-migrant 'atmosphere of
fear'*
/Employees of state TV network describe how channels pumped out
pro-government messaging ahead of Victor Orbán's election victory this 
week/

/.../
The journalists believe the anti-migrant messages often come directly
from the government. People who work on stories directly involving Orbán
receive a list of keywords to use. "Sometimes the editor will come into
the office on the phone and dictate a whole story to us, word for word.
We do not know who is on the other end of the phone," said one.
/.../
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/13/hungary-journalists-state-tv-network-migrants-viktor-orban-government


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Re: [spectre] on Hungary

2018-04-13 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Broeckmann

janos,

it is weird to read this, but isn't it clear that these things are 
happening? and isn't the really worrying thing that hungarians have 
voted for fidesz (party, leader, and candidates) despite the likelihood 
of this kind of manipulation of public opinion?


i don't want to sound fatalistic, but the worrying thing is that while 
telling the truth is still important, it does not seem to make much of a 
difference...


ok, yes, we have to keep on telling the truth, searching, telling...

excuse the fatalistic glitch.

regards,
-a



Am 13.04.18 um 11:29 schrieb János Sugár:

*Hungarian journalists admit role in forging anti-migrant 'atmosphere of
fear'*
/Employees of state TV network describe how channels pumped out
pro-government messaging ahead of Victor Orbán's election victory this week/
/.../
The journalists believe the anti-migrant messages often come directly
from the government. People who work on stories directly involving Orbán
receive a list of keywords to use. "Sometimes the editor will come into
the office on the phone and dictate a whole story to us, word for word.
We do not know who is on the other end of the phone," said one.
/.../
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/13/hungary-journalists-state-tv-network-migrants-viktor-orban-government


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Re: [spectre] on Hungary

2018-04-13 Diskussionsfäden János Sugár
Title: Re:on Hungary


Hungarian journalists admit role in forging anti-migrant
'atmosphere of fear'
Employees of state TV network describe how channels pumped out
pro-government messaging ahead of Victor Orbán's election victory
this week
/.../
The journalists believe the anti-migrant messages often come
directly from the government. People who work on stories directly
involving Orbán receive a list of keywords to use. "Sometimes the
editor will come into the office on the phone and dictate a whole
story to us, word for word. We do not know who is on the other end of
the phone," said one.
/.../
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/13/hungary-journalists-state-tv-network-migrants-viktor-orban-government


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