[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread panhudie gmail

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You do know you can change packet TTL both at the local level and at the
> router / firewall?  If that's all they are doing for detecting machines
> then it is simply avoided.  Likewise with a socks / HTTP proxy server.
> Ofcourse that would be breaking the terms and conditions but you can do
> it if you want to.


It should be, but to my mind it doesn't sound like a very good idea.
> You have a set up that works and you are planning to keep to the same
> network topology, so why not invest in some reasonable structured
> cabling?  Alternatively why not replace the 4 routers with one Linux
> box?  I suspect these are more time efficient ways of solving the same
> problem and will result in a better, more stable system.


Thanks for your advices. Current I start to learn how to use iptables,
iproute, squid to do that.(TTL, IPID, proxying...)


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[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread panhudie gmail

Thanks. It works.

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Gilles Espinasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> As you see in  ATM 0.0.35, there is 3 parameters, the first being the atm
> interface number, that by default has atm0 value.
> You should try with each modem a different atm interface, so
> br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.0.35
> br2684ctl -b -c 1 -a 1.0.35
>
>


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[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread Martin

On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 05:44 +0800, panhudie gmail wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Giampaolo Tomassoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> > It doesn't work this way, especially if you are trying to double your
> > download speed: your ISP(s) have to co-operate to put your two lines in
> > bundle.
> >
> > If you are looking to double your UPLOAD speed, than it can be done at
> > routing level provided you ISP(s) don't block traffic sourcing from an
> > address different from the one your line got at dial-up (which is seldom
> > the
> > case).
> >
> 
> Sorry for my poor English.
> 
> The situation is I totally have 4 adsl lines and 16+ machines, and my ISP
> can detect my lan machines(using something like this
> http://www.sflow.org/detectNAT/, my ISP specifys one adsl only allow be
> shared by no more than 4 machines).
You do know you can change packet TTL both at the local level and at the
router / firewall?  If that's all they are doing for detecting machines
then it is simply avoided.  Likewise with a socks / HTTP proxy server.
Ofcourse that would be breaking the terms and conditions but you can do
it if you want to.

>  So I have to use 4 adsl lines(one adsl
> for 4 machines), and 4 adsl modems and 4 routers. There are too many devices
> and network cable,so I try to use usb adsl modem to replace they(modems and
> routers).And I want to use one machine to dail-up all the adsl connnections
> with usb modems. Is there a possible way to do that?
It should be, but to my mind it doesn't sound like a very good idea.
You have a set up that works and you are planning to keep to the same
network topology, so why not invest in some reasonable structured
cabling?  Alternatively why not replace the 4 routers with one Linux
box?  I suspect these are more time efficient ways of solving the same
problem and will result in a better, more stable system.

HTH

Cheers,
 - Martin



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[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread panhudie gmail

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:07 AM, Giampaolo Tomassoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
> It doesn't work this way, especially if you are trying to double your
> download speed: your ISP(s) have to co-operate to put your two lines in
> bundle.
>
> If you are looking to double your UPLOAD speed, than it can be done at
> routing level provided you ISP(s) don't block traffic sourcing from an
> address different from the one your line got at dial-up (which is seldom
> the
> case).
>

Sorry for my poor English.

The situation is I totally have 4 adsl lines and 16+ machines, and my ISP
can detect my lan machines(using something like this
http://www.sflow.org/detectNAT/, my ISP specifys one adsl only allow be
shared by no more than 4 machines). So I have to use 4 adsl lines(one adsl
for 4 machines), and 4 adsl modems and 4 routers. There are too many devices
and network cable,so I try to use usb adsl modem to replace they(modems and
routers).And I want to use one machine to dail-up all the adsl connnections
with usb modems. Is there a possible way to do that?


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[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread Gilles Espinasse


- Original Message - 
From: "panhudie gmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: [speedtouch] How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch
330 modems?


> I has two usb speedtouch 330 modems and two adsl accounts.
> I tried to use br2684ctl to bridge two nas interface(nas0, nas1) with two
> modems, but not sucessfully, only nas0 can be used to dail up one adsl.
>
> gateway:~# br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.35
> br2684ctl[2354]: Interface "nas0" created sucessfully
> br2684ctl[2354]: Communicating over ATM 0.0.35, encapsulation: LLC
> br2684ctl[2354]: Interface configured
> gateway:~# br2684ctl -b -c 1 -a 0.35
> br2684ctl[2373]: Interface "nas1" created sucessfully
> br2684ctl[2373]: Communicating over ATM 0.0.35, encapsulation: LLC
> br2684ctl[2373]: Fatal: failed to connect on socket
>
> Is there a way to make several nas bridges or to dial up several adsl with
> several modems?
> Thanks ahead.
>
>
As you see in  ATM 0.0.35, there is 3 parameters, the first being the atm
interface number, that by default has atm0 value.
You should try with each modem a different atm interface, so
br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.0.35
br2684ctl -b -c 1 -a 1.0.35

Gilles


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[speedtouch] Re: How to make two adsl connnections with two speedtouch 330 modems?

2008-12-06 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of panhudie gmail
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:21 PM
> To: speedtouch@ml.free.fr
> Subject: [speedtouch] How to make two adsl connnections with two
> speedtouch 330 modems?
> 
> I has two usb speedtouch 330 modems and two adsl accounts.
> I tried to use br2684ctl to bridge two nas interface(nas0, nas1) with
> two
> modems, but not sucessfully, only nas0 can be used to dail up one adsl.
> 
> gateway:~# br2684ctl -b -c 0 -a 0.35
> br2684ctl[2354]: Interface "nas0" created sucessfully
> br2684ctl[2354]: Communicating over ATM 0.0.35, encapsulation: LLC
> br2684ctl[2354]: Interface configured
> gateway:~# br2684ctl -b -c 1 -a 0.35
> br2684ctl[2373]: Interface "nas1" created sucessfully
> br2684ctl[2373]: Communicating over ATM 0.0.35, encapsulation: LLC
> br2684ctl[2373]: Fatal: failed to connect on socket
> 
> Is there a way to make several nas bridges or to dial up several adsl
> with
> several modems?

It doesn't work this way, especially if you are trying to double your
download speed: your ISP(s) have to co-operate to put your two lines in
bundle.

If you are looking to double your UPLOAD speed, than it can be done at
routing level provided you ISP(s) don't block traffic sourcing from an
address different from the one your line got at dial-up (which is seldom the
case).


> Thanks ahead.

You welcome.

Giampaolo

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