[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-12 Thread Ed Vaessen

>
> Hi Ed,
>
>> A search through the WindowsXP directory brought to light that the very
>> old file alcaudsl.sys is still there. Not a suprise as I used the
>> installation disk from 06-06-2002 to load the speedtouch driver under
>> WindowsXP after I had installed WindowsXP. So I suppose it is the one
>> used
>> by WindowsXp.
>>
>> file: /Windows/C/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/alcaudsl.sys
>> md5sum: 8080b5ea17a763bbce6c92bbc6ceefe8
>>
>> The firmware files that I have been using for years for all Linux
>> distributions are:
>> /lib/firmware/speedtch-1.bin
>> md5sum: be58aef97d8435dce070c96574c06564
>> /lib/firmware/speedtch-2.bin
>> md5sum: 4dc23adb72007919f30d50ebcf222f8a
>>
>> I tried to find the .inf files that contain the words you mentioned
>> using
>> search commands like:
>>
>> grep -rsiH modem /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi option
>> grep -rsiH DSL /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi Max
>>
>> but none had anything the like.
>
> try searching for alcaudsl.

alcaudsl is found in file
/Windows/C/WINDOWS/setupapi.log
and
/Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem9.inf

What file setupapi.log says is that it understands the driver program to
be of 06-06-2002, what matches with the date of alcaudsl.sys and that it
installs from section [alcaudsl.Install] in "h:\windows\inf\oem9.inf".

Looks as if alcaudsl.sys is the microcode that is loaded.

>
>> I only find the files
>> /Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem8.inf
>> /Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem9.inf
>> that contain words like speedtouch or alcatel.
>>
>> So, as a consequence, I do not find any parameter information.
>> Suppose I boot into WindowsXP, is there some manner in which I can
>> retrieve information about the parameters you mentioned?
>
> Not really.  You can use a usb snooper to see what windows is sending
> to the modem, but that's not for the faint hearted.
>
> Do you see the message "OAM not supported" in dmesg output?

No. It is not there.

Would it be an idea to use the alcaudsl.sys microcode as suggested in the
README file of the speedtouchconf project?
Alternatively: can you tell me how to change parameters of the speedtch
module using the modprobe command?

Regards,

Ed



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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Duncan Sands

Hi Ed,

> A search through the WindowsXP directory brought to light that the very
> old file alcaudsl.sys is still there. Not a suprise as I used the
> installation disk from 06-06-2002 to load the speedtouch driver under
> WindowsXP after I had installed WindowsXP. So I suppose it is the one used
> by WindowsXp.
> 
> file: /Windows/C/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/alcaudsl.sys
> md5sum: 8080b5ea17a763bbce6c92bbc6ceefe8
> 
> The firmware files that I have been using for years for all Linux
> distributions are:
> /lib/firmware/speedtch-1.bin
> md5sum: be58aef97d8435dce070c96574c06564
> /lib/firmware/speedtch-2.bin
> md5sum: 4dc23adb72007919f30d50ebcf222f8a
> 
> I tried to find the .inf files that contain the words you mentioned using
> search commands like:
> 
> grep -rsiH modem /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi option
> grep -rsiH DSL /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi Max
> 
> but none had anything the like.

try searching for alcaudsl.

> I only find the files
> /Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem8.inf
> /Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem9.inf
> that contain words like speedtouch or alcatel.
> 
> So, as a consequence, I do not find any parameter information.
> Suppose I boot into WindowsXP, is there some manner in which I can
> retrieve information about the parameters you mentioned?

Not really.  You can use a usb snooper to see what windows is sending
to the modem, but that's not for the faint hearted.

Do you see the message "OAM not supported" in dmesg output?

Ciao,

Duncan.

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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Duncan Sands

Hi Giampaolo,

> I see. Lacking firmware documentation seems a common problem with these
> devices, isn't it?

for these devices everything has been reverse engineered.

Ciao,

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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Ed Vaessen

I had to switch to WindowsXP te maintain a normal connection. Under
OpenSuSE the line is going down nearly every minute this evening.
So far the advantages of xs4all with their upgrade that I never asked for...

Ed


>
> Hi Duncan,
>
>> > Duncan, what about adding speed, signal strength, agreed ADSL
>> standard and
>> > bins composition to the driver's procfs file?
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't know how to get anything except the speed.  The
>> speed is already reported to the ATM layer.
>
> I see. Lacking firmware documentation seems a common problem with these
> devices, isn't it?
>
> Bonsoir,
>
> Giampaolo
>
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Duncan.
>
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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni

Hi Duncan,

> > Duncan, what about adding speed, signal strength, agreed ADSL
> standard and
> > bins composition to the driver's procfs file?
> 
> Unfortunately I don't know how to get anything except the speed.  The
> speed is already reported to the ATM layer.

I see. Lacking firmware documentation seems a common problem with these
devices, isn't it?

Bonsoir,

Giampaolo

> 
> Ciao,
> 
> Duncan.


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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Ed Vaessen

>
> Hi Ed,
>
>> pop up every 10 minutes. What is strange is that this behavior does not
>> happen under WindowsXP. Distributions like OpenSuSE however suffer from
>> this problem. Ubuntu 9.04 is even worse. Under Unbuntu, the modem is
>> more
>> busy with synchronizing than with serving my connection.
>
> perhaps the modem needs newer firmware to handle these speeds.  Are you
> using the same firmware as with windows XP?  It may also be that the
> modem needs to be initialized differently (all kinds of mysterious stuff
> happens at modem initialization time, and it's not clear what it is).
> In the windows ".inf" file you may find settings like "BMaxDSL",
> "ModemMode" and "ModemOption", perhaps not with exactly those names.
> These seem to be important parameters, and we managed to implement them
> as module parameters for the speedtch module.  The default values are
> "8128", "11" and "0x10,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x20" respectively.  Try changing
> these to the values you see in your ".inf" file.  The values can be set
> using modprobe.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Duncan.
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>
Hello Duncan,

A search through the WindowsXP directory brought to light that the very
old file alcaudsl.sys is still there. Not a suprise as I used the
installation disk from 06-06-2002 to load the speedtouch driver under
WindowsXP after I had installed WindowsXP. So I suppose it is the one used
by WindowsXp.

file: /Windows/C/WINDOWS/system32/drivers/alcaudsl.sys
md5sum: 8080b5ea17a763bbce6c92bbc6ceefe8

The firmware files that I have been using for years for all Linux
distributions are:
/lib/firmware/speedtch-1.bin
md5sum: be58aef97d8435dce070c96574c06564
/lib/firmware/speedtch-2.bin
md5sum: 4dc23adb72007919f30d50ebcf222f8a

I tried to find the .inf files that contain the words you mentioned using
search commands like:

grep -rsiH modem /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi option
grep -rsiH DSL /Windows/C/WINDOWS/* | grep -rsi Max

but none had anything the like.
I only find the files
/Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem8.inf
/Windows/C/WINDOWS/inf/oem9.inf
that contain words like speedtouch or alcatel.

So, as a consequence, I do not find any parameter information.
Suppose I boot into WindowsXP, is there some manner in which I can
retrieve information about the parameters you mentioned?


Regards,

Ed



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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Duncan Sands

Hi Giampaolo,

> Duncan, what about adding speed, signal strength, agreed ADSL standard and
> bins composition to the driver's procfs file?

Unfortunately I don't know how to get anything except the speed.  The
speed is already reported to the ATM layer.

Ciao,

Duncan.

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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni

> My provider, xs4all in the Netherlands, has served me well for 8 years.
> Since last summer however, after they changed the properties of the
> connection (it was upgraded to 6112 kb/s down, 832 kb/s up) things got
> problematic.
> The first is that the synchronizing of my speedtouch 330 modem (the
> purple
> one) takes much longer now. Since the synchronizing takes place during
> boot time, that generally is not such a big problem. What is a problem
> is
> that, especially late at night, the modem goes down frequently. Message
> like:
> 
> Oct 10 23:19:08 linux-31l4 kernel: ATM dev 0: DSL line goes down
> Oct 10 23:19:08 linux-31l4 kernel: ATM dev 0: ADSL line is down
> Oct 10 23:19:50 linux-31l4 kernel: ATM dev 0: DSL line goes up
> Oct 10 23:19:50 linux-31l4 kernel: ATM dev 0: ADSL line is up (6080
> kb/s
> down | 832 kb/s up)
> 
> pop up every 10 minutes. What is strange is that this behavior does not
> happen under WindowsXP. Distributions like OpenSuSE however suffer from
> this problem. Ubuntu 9.04 is even worse. Under Unbuntu, the modem is
> more
> busy with synchronizing than with serving my connection.
> 
> Has anyone ever experienced this problem?

Well, yes: my provider started peeping the remote modem status through OAM
cells, to which my systems didn't reply (unfortunately OAM is not supported
in usbatm and in the linux ATM stack and, anyway, they were using
non-standard OAM requests). After few of these unreplied OAM requests, my
provider was starting an ADSL re-synchronization.

However, your case seems different to me. It seems you have synchronization
problems. Unfortunately, the speedtch driver doesn't report any signal
and/or bins information (not even the agreed speed) in its
/proc/net/atm/speedtch* file, so it is difficult to inspect further. I would
suggest to use a Windows system in order to have a look to your signal
quality. If you signal quality is good, it may be a firmware problem related
to border conditions. Try updating/changing your firmware version.

Duncan, what about adding speed, signal strength, agreed ADSL standard and
bins composition to the driver's procfs file? Actually the only status data
available are the VC one (which is basically redundant since the
/proc/net/atm/vc file already reports it) and a lone "Line Up/Synchronizing"
line...

Giampaolo

> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Ed
> 
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[speedtouch] Re: Speedtouch line going down under Linux

2009-10-11 Thread Duncan Sands

Hi Ed,

> pop up every 10 minutes. What is strange is that this behavior does not
> happen under WindowsXP. Distributions like OpenSuSE however suffer from
> this problem. Ubuntu 9.04 is even worse. Under Unbuntu, the modem is more
> busy with synchronizing than with serving my connection.

perhaps the modem needs newer firmware to handle these speeds.  Are you
using the same firmware as with windows XP?  It may also be that the
modem needs to be initialized differently (all kinds of mysterious stuff
happens at modem initialization time, and it's not clear what it is).
In the windows ".inf" file you may find settings like "BMaxDSL",
"ModemMode" and "ModemOption", perhaps not with exactly those names.
These seem to be important parameters, and we managed to implement them
as module parameters for the speedtch module.  The default values are
"8128", "11" and "0x10,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x20" respectively.  Try changing
these to the values you see in your ".inf" file.  The values can be set
using modprobe.

Good luck,

Duncan.

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