Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-15 Thread Louis-Philippe VĂ©ronneau
On 2020-06-14 22 h 49, Joshua Drake wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:51 AM Luca Filipozzi > wrote: > >> @all: Having slept on things, I'm changing my position from (2a) to (2c) >> since it is more appropriate to correct the lack of charging Debian 5% >> on sponsorships than it is to correct

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Drake
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:51 AM Luca Filipozzi wrote: > @all: Having slept on things, I'm changing my position from (2a) to (2c) > since it is more appropriate to correct the lack of charging Debian 5% > on sponsorships than it is to correct the actual/perceived > miscommunication between

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-14 Thread Luca Filipozzi
@all: Having slept on things, I'm changing my position from (2a) to (2c) since it is more appropriate to correct the lack of charging Debian 5% on sponsorships than it is to correct the actual/perceived miscommunication between Debian and SPI. So, for clarity: - do not refund Debian for

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-13 Thread Bdale Garbee
I would charge 5% going forward, and make no changes (refunds or new charges) for what happened in the past. Bdale On June 13, 2020 11:09:52 AM MDT, Luca Filipozzi wrote: >Hi, > >Per other branch on this thread, Stephen outlined that the Board is >working with the Debian Representative on

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-13 Thread Luca Filipozzi
Hi, Per other branch on this thread, Stephen outlined that the Board is working with the Debian Representative on clarifying the status of DebConf sponsorships, etc. Since I'm in favour of 'fairness' and 'consistency', I agree with Peter that some questions need answering: (1) Historically,

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-10 Thread Stephen Frost
Greetings, * Holger Levsen (hol...@layer-acht.org) wrote: > On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 11:55:03PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > I dislike at least section 2 here, where we only refund Debian, but not > > other conferences. > > *that* and then I'm confused why the resolution title only speaks

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 11:55:03PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > THE SPI BOARD RESOLVES THAT > > > > 1. For conferences held by SPI associated projects in 2020 where > >SPI collects the conference sponsorship funds, SPI will waive > >its 5% administrative fee. > > > > 2. SPI

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-09 Thread Stephen Frost
Greetings, * Daniel Vetter (daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch) wrote: > My worry (from X.org project) is that if we drop the 5% from > conference sponsorships (which is the biggest chunk of income for > X.org right now), then will SPI have enough money to run solid > services? That's definitely a great

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-09 Thread Daniel Vetter
Hi all, On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:01 AM Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon Jun 08, 2020 at 17:13:43 -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote: > > SPI is having a special meeting on 2020-06-22 at 20:00 UTC in #spi on > > irc.oftc.net to vote on this proposed resolution: > > > > Resolution

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-09 Thread Peter Cock
Hello Michael, Martin, all, I personally agree that inconsistently charging the 5% fee is unacceptable, but not with the proposed remedy. I would rather suggest explicitly granting amnesty on past omissions (assuming no technical objections such as from the auditors), and enforcing the 5%

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-09 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Mon Jun 08, 2020 at 23:55:03 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Also DebConf can not say they do not know about the 5%, as it is > well-known and documented per SPIs Projects howto: > > | All transaction costs (such as the fees we are charged to process credit > | cards and wire

Re: Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-08 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Mon Jun 08, 2020 at 17:13:43 -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote: > SPI is having a special meeting on 2020-06-22 at 20:00 UTC in #spi on > irc.oftc.net to vote on this proposed resolution: > > Resolution 2020-06-08.mcs.1: > 2020 Conferences and SPI 5% fee > > WHEREAS > > 1. Software in

Proposed resolution: Waive SPI 5% administrative fee for 2020 associated project conferences

2020-06-08 Thread Michael Schultheiss
SPI is having a special meeting on 2020-06-22 at 20:00 UTC in #spi on irc.oftc.net to vote on this proposed resolution: Resolution 2020-06-08.mcs.1: 2020 Conferences and SPI 5% fee WHEREAS 1. Software in the Public Interest, Inc. (SPI) is a Debian Trusted Organization. 2. The annual Debian