[Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Justin I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my students and also played some numbers stations recordings. Besides being astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before the internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought radios themselves. I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be on the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to keep them entertained. One kid I've kept in contact with is still an avid listener and attends MIT. So the torch is still being passed! And thanks for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest of us chicken-hearted newbies. : ) Ashley Dugan PS I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing into my lesson plans. Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : ) PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list 73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck or similarly Best wishes Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's wife. 73s Bill and 88s to your XYL -or naming her. XYL = ex young lady / married On June 22, 2014 10:32:38 PM AKDT, Ashley Dugan weab...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Justin I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my students and also played some numbers stations recordings. Besides being astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before the internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought radios themselves. I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be on the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to keep them entertained. One kid I've kept in contact with is still an avid listener and attends MIT. So the torch is still being passed! And thanks for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest of us chicken-hearted newbies. : ) Ashley Dugan PS I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing into my lesson plans. Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : ) PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Semper Reluctor War is a country of will, there’s no room for sympathy. If you’re not willing to give up everything…You’ve already lost. -- Chief Dave __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list 73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck or similarly Best wishes Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's wife. 73s Bill and 88s to your XYL -or naming her. And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. Kurt __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Its my dim recollection that these go back to the telegraph days. Seems to me I read an artucle in the 70's about that. On June 23, 2014 1:09:11 AM AKDT, KD7JYK DM09 kd7...@earthlink.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list 73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck or similarly Best wishes Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's wife. 73s Bill and 88s to your XYL -or naming her. And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. Kurt __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Semper Reluctor War is a country of will, there’s no room for sympathy. If you’re not willing to give up everything…You’ve already lost. -- Chief Dave __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's...and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Messed up the link... http://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT On June 23, 2014 at 7:31 AM ka8...@ka8vit.com ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list All the same if some hugs and kisses are good then more is better. Ii have gotten hundreds of young people interested in shortwave radio with things I recorded over the last 50 years. The numbers stations mil air the woodpecker etc Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2014, at 7:31, ka8...@ka8vit.com ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's...and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] lightning again,...
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The local radio station I work at was hit by lightning a couple years ago just as I was getting on shift. We have a ground net in the field around the station (it was built in the 60's) but it still popped a few fuses in our transmitter and killed the sound card in our computer and fried the power supply and a couple audio lines in our board. Lightning is nasty stuff. On Jun 23, 2014 12:43 AM, Robert Rode renegadechem...@hotmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list ..Just the opposite, gang,... I always unplug coax, one sunday morning, lightning hit my GROUNDED tower on top, grounded, mind you,..didnt follow easiest path to ground,.at least not all of it,.came down through rotor wires into shack, and every thing that had been on ground got it ..burn marks in paint from screws to metal,..every thing on the bench was trashed, it knocked the circuit breaker right out of the box, welded the plug into the socket, got my computer,.later found 3 burns in top of tower,...makes me wonder if tower WASNT grounded, would even got hit !! __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On the subject of ancient long range communication there are some references that your students can enjoy. Arthur C Clarke wrote an excellent book on transoceanic communications and the competition between undersea cables and satellites. The first undersea cable was layed in the Victorian era, go figure! Of course it was used to transmit telegrams in Morse code: How the World Was One. There's also a movie depicting the role of cryptography in the Battle of the Atlantic in WWII. Enigma. It's based on a novel by Robert Harris. With the necessary simplifications, I think it's an excellent and understandable description. And the novel is nice. On the subject of cryptography, there is an amazing book written by a historian: The Codebreakers: The Comprehensive History of Secret Communication from Ancient Times to the Internet by David Kahn. On other surprising ancient uses of radio communications in WWII search for a bbc documentary available on YouTube called The Battle of the Beams. Borja. - El destrozo ortográfico y gramatical del que es capaz el corrector de este chisme es un buen ejemplo de la eficacia de eso que llaman inteligencia artificial. The surreal ortographic and grammatical mistakes this appliance can make is an excellent example of the real utility of the so called artificial intelligence. On 23/06/2014, at 08:32, Ashley Dugan weab...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Justin I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my students and also played some numbers stations recordings. Besides being astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before the internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought radios themselves. I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be on the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to keep them entertained. One kid I've kept in contact with is still an avid listener and attends MIT. So the torch is still being passed! And thanks for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest of us chicken-hearted newbies. : ) Ashley Dugan PS I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing into my lesson plans. Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : ) PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73? __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural? Hence My regards and My love and kisses. This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional. Tracy Johnson On 06/23/14, ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:40, Tracy Johnson tm...@verizon.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural? Hence My regards and My love and kisses. This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional. Tracy Johnson On 06/23/14, ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer. A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their original intend use, tend to get perverted. Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a numeric. But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the pural even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best Regards or what have you. And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is indicative that it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+ years now. 73 - Bill KA8VIT On June 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means Ernie Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It's not a big deal. The important thing is Does it communicate? or Does the recipient understand what the sender means to say? If I spelled the above word comunicait it would still get across. Purists can complain all they want, but if the recipient understood it, it's accomplished its purpose. Zack On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, ka8...@ka8vit.com ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer. A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their original intend use, tend to get perverted. Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a numeric. But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the pural even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best Regards or what have you. And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is indicative that it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+ years now. 73 - Bill KA8VIT On June 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means Ernie Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list help On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:00 PM, spooks-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Send Spooks mailing list submissions to spooks@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to spooks-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at spooks-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Spooks digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Spooks, spies, and students (Ernie Rice) 2. Re: Spooks, spies, and students (ka8...@ka8vit.com) 3. Re: Spooks, spies, and students (Zack Widup) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:13:27 -0400 From: Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com To: tm...@verizon.net tm...@verizon.net,Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students Message-ID: 7a77d62c-d9c8-4728-933a-a3c431b86...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2014, at 9:40, Tracy Johnson tm...@verizon.net wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural? Hence My regards and My love and kisses. This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional. Tracy Johnson On 06/23/14, ka8...@ka8vit.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best wisheses and hugs and kisseses. While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me. See one of his 1925 QSL cards. h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg 73 - Bill KA8VIT Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ka8...@ka8vit.com ka8...@ka8vit.com To: tm...@verizon.net tm...@verizon.net,Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net, Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students Message-ID: 1793527884.620376.1403534350174.open-xcha...@oxuslxltgw10.lxa.perfora.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer. A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their original intend use, tend to get perverted. Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a numeric. But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the pural even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best Regards or what have you. And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is indicative that it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+ years now. 73 - Bill KA8VIT On June 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote: Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means Ernie Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO) ka8...@ka8vit.com http://ka8vit.com http://www.usscod.org -- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:44:30 -0500 From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students Message-ID: canjxhwhcgb6t_rnagkae8qgft2lwt1tbegfpbfog-gewh9d...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It's not a big deal. The important thing is Does it communicate? or Does the recipient understand what the sender means to say? If I spelled the above word comunicait it would still get across. Purists can complain all they want, but if the recipient understood it, it's accomplished its purpose. Zack On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, ka8...@ka8vit.com
Re: [Spooks] lightning again,...
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 06/22/2014 23:42, Robert Rode wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list one sunday morning, lightning hit my GROUNDED tower on top, grounded, mind you,..didnt follow easiest path to ground,.at least not all of it I'm guessing that there was so much electricity that most of it followed the easiest path to ground, but there was so much of it that part of it radiated outward to fry your various electronic devices. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html