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2014-06-23 Thread Ashley Dugan
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Justin
I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my
students and also played some numbers stations recordings.  Besides being
astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before the
internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought radios
themselves.  I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be on
the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to
keep them entertained.  One kid I've kept in contact with is still an avid
listener and attends MIT.  So the torch is still being passed!  And thanks
for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest of us
chicken-hearted newbies. : )

Ashley Dugan

PS  I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing into
my lesson plans.  Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : )

PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73?
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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

2014-06-23 Thread Todd Dokey
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73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck  or 
similarly  Best wishes

Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's wife.

73s Bill and 88s to your XYL  -or naming  her.

XYL = ex young lady / married


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Justin
I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my
students and also played some numbers stations recordings.  Besides
being
astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before
the
internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought
radios
themselves.  I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be
on
the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to
keep them entertained.  One kid I've kept in contact with is still an
avid
listener and attends MIT.  So the torch is still being passed!  And
thanks
for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest
of us
chicken-hearted newbies. : )

Ashley Dugan

PS  I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing
into
my lesson plans.  Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : )

PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73?
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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

2014-06-23 Thread KD7JYK DM09
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73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck  or 
similarly  Best wishes
Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's wife.
73s Bill and 88s to your XYL  -or naming  her.

And never plural.  It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's.  That would be best 
wisheses and hugs and kisseses.

Kurt 

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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

2014-06-23 Thread Todd Dokey
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Its my dim recollection that these go back to the telegraph days.  Seems to me 
I read an artucle in the 70's about that.



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73 is a ham radio term that is similar to saying Thanks and good luck
 or 
similarly  Best wishes
Tradionally 88 is love and kisses -typically sent to the operator's
wife.
73s Bill and 88s to your XYL  -or naming  her.

And never plural.  It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's.  That would be
best 
wisheses and hugs and kisseses.

Kurt 

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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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 And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
 wisheses and hugs and kisseses.


While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's...and if it was
good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

See one of his 1925 QSL cards.

h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg

73 - Bill KA8VIT



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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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Messed up the link...

http://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg

73 - Bill  KA8VIT


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  And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
  wisheses and hugs and kisseses.


 While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
 used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was
 good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

 See one of his 1925 QSL cards.

 h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg

 73 - Bill KA8VIT


Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
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WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)

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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

2014-06-23 Thread Ernie Rice
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All the same if some hugs and kisses are good then more is better. 
Ii have gotten hundreds of young people interested in shortwave radio with  
things I recorded over the last 50 years.
The numbers stations mil air the woodpecker etc

Ernie

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 And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
 wisheses and hugs and kisseses.
 
 
 While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
 used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's...and if it was
 good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
 
 See one of his 1925 QSL cards.
 
 h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg
 
 73 - Bill KA8VIT
 
 
 
 Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
 USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD
 WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
 
 ka8...@ka8vit.com
 http://ka8vit.com
 http://www.usscod.org
 
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Re: [Spooks] lightning again,...

2014-06-23 Thread Ender Wiggin
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The local radio station I work at was hit by lightning a couple years ago
just as I was getting on shift. We have a ground net in the field around
the station (it was built in the 60's) but it still popped a few fuses in
our transmitter and killed the sound card in our computer and fried the
power supply and a couple audio lines in our board. Lightning is nasty
stuff.
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 ..Just the opposite, gang,... I always unplug coax,  one sunday morning,
 lightning hit my GROUNDED tower on top, grounded, mind you,..didnt follow
 easiest path to ground,.at least not all of it,.came down through rotor
 wires into shack, and every thing that had been on ground got it ..burn
 marks in paint from screws to metal,..every thing on the bench was trashed,
 it knocked the circuit breaker right out of the box, welded the plug into
 the socket, got my computer,.later found 3 burns in top of tower,...makes
 me wonder if tower WASNT grounded, would even got hit !!
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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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On the subject of ancient long range communication there are some references 
that your students can enjoy.

Arthur C Clarke wrote an excellent book on transoceanic communications and the 
competition between undersea  cables and satellites. The first  undersea  cable 
was layed in the Victorian era, go figure! Of course it was used to transmit 
telegrams in Morse code: How the World Was One.

There's also a movie depicting the role of cryptography in the Battle of the 
Atlantic in WWII. Enigma. It's based on a novel by Robert Harris. With the 
necessary simplifications, I think it's an excellent and understandable 
description. And the novel is nice.

On the subject of cryptography, there is an amazing book written by a 
historian: The Codebreakers: The Comprehensive History of Secret Communication 
from Ancient Times to the Internet by David Kahn.

On other surprising ancient uses of radio communications in WWII search for a 
bbc documentary available on YouTube called The Battle of the Beams.





Borja.

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El destrozo ortográfico y gramatical del que es capaz el corrector de este 
chisme es un buen ejemplo de la eficacia de eso que llaman inteligencia 
artificial.

The surreal ortographic and grammatical mistakes this appliance can make is an 
excellent example of the real utility of the so called artificial intelligence.

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 Justin
 I explained a bit about my (very rudimentary) shortwave hobby to my
 students and also played some numbers stations recordings.  Besides being
 astonished that any type of long-range communication took place before the
 internet, several of them became interested in short wave and bought radios
 themselves.  I do wish there was as much activity as there used to be on
 the waves, but there's still enough culture and bits of spookiness to
 keep them entertained.  One kid I've kept in contact with is still an avid
 listener and attends MIT.  So the torch is still being passed!  And thanks
 for being brave enough for asking the newbie questions for the rest of us
 chicken-hearted newbies. : )
 
 Ashley Dugan
 
 PS  I teach literature, so I had to do some contortions to fit dxing into
 my lesson plans.  Don't know if Common Core endorses that! : )
 
 PSS Another newbie question: what is the significance of 73?
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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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 Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural?
 
Hence My regards and My love and kisses.

This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional.

Tracy Johnson


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 And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
 wisheses and hugs and kisseses.


While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was
good enough for him, it's good enough for me.

See one of his 1925 QSL cards.

h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg

73 - Bill KA8VIT



Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
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WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)

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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means

Ernie

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 Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural?
 
 Hence My regards and My love and kisses.
 
 This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional.
 
 Tracy Johnson
 
 
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 And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
 wisheses and hugs and kisseses.
 
 
 While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
 used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was
 good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
 
 See one of his 1925 QSL cards.
 
 h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg
 
 73 - Bill KA8VIT
 
 
 
 Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
 USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD
 WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
 
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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer.

A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their original
intend use, tend to get perverted.

Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a numeric.

But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the pural
even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best Regards
or what have you.

And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is indicative that
it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+ years
now.

73 - Bill KA8VIT


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 Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means

 Ernie



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Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students

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It's not a big deal. The important thing is Does it communicate? or Does
the recipient understand what the sender means to say?

If I spelled the above word comunicait it would still get across. Purists
can complain all they want, but if the recipient understood it, it's
accomplished its purpose.

Zack


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 I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer.

 A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their
 original
 intend use, tend to get perverted.

 Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a
 numeric.

 But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the
 pural
 even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best
 Regards
 or what have you.

 And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is
 indicative that
 it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+
 years
 now.

 73 - Bill KA8VIT


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  Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means
 
  Ernie
 

 
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 Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means

 Ernie

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  Maybe the apostrophe + letter s was possessive, not plural?
 
  Hence My regards and My love and kisses.
 
  This will satisfy both of the debate since the possessive is optional.
 
  Tracy Johnson
 
 
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  And never plural. It's 73 and 88, not 73's or 88's. That would be best
  wisheses and hugs and kisseses.
 
 
  While we all know what 73 and 88 mean and how the are supposed to be
  used on the air,even Hiram Percy Maxim would say 73's... and if it was
  good enough for him, it's good enough for me.
 
  See one of his 1925 QSL cards.
 
  h ttp://ka8vit.com/download/hiram-percy-1AW-73s-1925.jpg
 
  73 - Bill KA8VIT
 
 
  
  Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
  USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD
  WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)
 
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 Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net,  Ernie Rice 
 ranger2...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
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 I am not sure to whom you directed your question to, but allow me answer.

 A lot of terms when used in casual conversation rather than for their
 original
 intend use, tend to get perverted.

 Yes, 73 was originally part of the Phillips code and was in fact a
 numeric.

 But no where, ANYWHERE, is it written that one should not use it in the
 pural
 even if the literal translation would mean something like, Best, Best
 Regards
 or what have you.

 And, I believe, that fact that Maxim himself used it that way is
 indicative that
 it is in fact, OK, to be used in such a manner and has been for 100+
 years
 now.

 73 - Bill KA8VIT


  On June 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM Ernie Rice ranger2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Really? What difference does it make we all know what it means
 
  Ernie
 

 
 Bill Chaikin, KA8VIT
 USS COD Amateur Radio Club - W8COD
 WW2 Submarine USS COD SS-224 (NECO)

 ka8...@ka8vit.com
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 http://www.usscod.org
 

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 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:44:30 -0500
 From: Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: [Spooks] Spooks, spies, and students
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 It's not a big deal. The important thing is Does it communicate? or Does
 the recipient understand what the sender means to say?

 If I spelled the above word comunicait it would still get across. Purists
 can complain all they want, but if the recipient understood it, it's
 accomplished its purpose.

 Zack


 On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, ka8...@ka8vit.com 

Re: [Spooks] lightning again,...

2014-06-23 Thread Tom Sevart

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one sunday morning, lightning hit my GROUNDED tower on top, grounded, mind 
you,..didnt follow easiest path to ground,.at least not all of it   
 


I'm guessing that there was so much electricity that most of it followed 
the easiest path to ground, but there was so much of it that part of it 
radiated outward to fry your various electronic devices.


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Tom Sevart N2UHC
St. Paul, KS
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