[Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I want to sincerely thank you all for your input and information. Your feedback is fascinating to me. I have listened to different distress signals (audio examples, online) and the broadcast that I heard sounded very similar but not exact. Yes, it sounded like SOS but a bit longer, (the loop did). Maybe it did come from a boat or maybe it came from a cop cruiser but I sort of doubt it because it went on and on (with different, random messages inserted) for hours. The fact that it started strong (very loud) and then gradually faded away over a period of hours, makes me think that I heard either half of a conversation (but I don't know from what to what) or something that's just flat-out on the weird side, but from something that was moving from one location to another. I will let you know if I hear anything like it, again. Thank you. Most Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Could it be this? http://marscan.com/billradiohighlights.htm On Feb 12, 2013 9:24 AM, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes, I tried to see if I could hear it anywhere else up or down on the am/fm band. The only place, anywhere, that I heard it, was 1630 on the AM band. It started very loud like it was very close by and gradually faded over a period of hours. The thing that stays with me now is the fact that the loop (repeating) part sounded almost like a distress signal. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I seem to recall someone else mentioning hearing Morse code somewhere in this part of the spectrum within the last couple years. I forget what it turned out to be. Ruthie, I'm assuming you don't copy Morse code? Why do you think it sounded almost like a distress signal? Was it sending SOS? 73, Zack W9SZ On 2/12/13, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes, I tried to see if I could hear it anywhere else up or down on the am/fm band. The only place, anywhere, that I heard it, was 1630 on the AM band. It started very loud like it was very close by and gradually faded over a period of hours. The thing that stays with me now is the fact that the loop (repeating) part sounded almost like a distress signal. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Still think this may be a BC sta on 1630 that was doing a test. What each station does is different, but some broadcast sweep tones MCW. Some have special music or speech. Can you listen again with that radio during those times listening for station IDs? The top of the hour will be the most productive, other times its hit or miss. Format will be useful as well. However, during the tests, the stations may also change their power pattern from what they usually use at night. Could be the case that you normally don't hear this station, but if they cranked up the power and went non-directional, then you could for this test. Greg Ruthie Rader said: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes, I tried to see if I could hear it anywhere else up or down on the am/fm band. The only place, anywhere, that I heard it, was 1630 on the AM band. It started very loud like it was very close by and gradually faded over a period of hours. The thing that stays with me now is the fact that the loop (repeating) part sounded almost like a distress signal. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I think the guy that posted the note about it being caused by a cell phone in dead on. Granted, I don't know nearly as much about this topic as probably 90% of you do but I work for a police dispatch center where I have ~20 VHF radios and a 400+ channel 800mhz system in front of me as I type this. Lets just say I've seen a few anomolies in my day including, but not limited to, a semi driver with a amped up CB interfering with an in-car repeater and coming across a ~440mhz frequency (specifically it was the fact that he was pulled over by an officer and it was loud and clear). One of our former employees had a cellular phone that would cause interference with our VHF radios *and* the AM talk newsstation (580 if it matters) that I occasionally listen to on slow days. It sounded PRECISELY like a Morse code message and lasted for about 7 seconds. I took her phone in the radio room one night and sent a text message...the radios went berzerk. Just a thought. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My Walkman (an older, square black one) has picked up communication from a police cruiser, before. Yes, I know that isn't supposed to happen. As to whether it was Christopher Dorner, too bad I didn't record it. The intermittent messages (between the loop that sounded like a distress call) may have been half of a conversation. Perhaps I heard only one side of a two-sided conversation. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi All, First the crud (QRM) out of a cellphone is nothing like a real CW (morse) signal. I offer as a suggestion that your receiver tuned to 1630 was responding to a signal round 2540 kcs what id known as an image the image frequency of your set. Since a superhet (Superheterodyne) receiver works by converting the incoming signal to the IF (455 or 465 Kc/s) which reduces the number of stages to tune and improves the selectivity, one of the drawbacks is that there are two frequencies that can be converted to the IF the wanted and the image. Sounds like the station was sending it's ID tape, [so the remote station could net onto him and ] so some other outfit could not steal his frequency. And when there is traffic to send, the operator switches the TX from ID tape to a a message tape, then switches back to the ID tape, when finished. Sounds something like U.S Navy Fleet or NY HF marine radio , message broadcast system (may be?) Key here is messages are just broadcast maybe at a schedule time) as they are issued and acknowledgment is on another channel. Flaw in that reasoning is Navy is just about all RATT or satellite based now. But Haifa Naval Radio 4XZ (spooks id M22) is still behaving exactly like a pre-WMARC 1979 Coast Radio Station. Still sending out their ID tape VVV = = 4XZ 4XZ repeat . , and their encrypted traffic on schedule, as well as lists of call signs for which traffic is held, and acknowledgments received. So much so you would think they are in a time-warp. Could I suggest you compare what you are hearing on your radio with with 4XZ which is very nice machine sent morse around 19 wpm, try 6606Kcs, 6378Kcs, 5500Kcs (a bit weak here) , or 4330,Kcs which are all very strong in Western Europe (9*W) around 2100z (GMT) nightly. best of luck and good hunting Dave __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Great points Dave. I haven't listened to them in quite a while. Cheers Doc W2MFT --- On Tue, 2/12/13, EI0DB ei...@eircom.net wrote: From: EI0DB ei...@eircom.net Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 4:45 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi All, First the crud (QRM) out of a cellphone is nothing like a real CW (morse) signal. I offer as a suggestion that your receiver tuned to 1630 was responding to a signal round 2540 kcs what id known as an image the image frequency of your set. Since a superhet (Superheterodyne) receiver works by converting the incoming signal to the IF (455 or 465 Kc/s) which reduces the number of stages to tune and improves the selectivity, one of the drawbacks is that there are two frequencies that can be converted to the IF the wanted and the image. Sounds like the station was sending it's ID tape, [so the remote station could net onto him and ] so some other outfit could not steal his frequency. And when there is traffic to send, the operator switches the TX from ID tape to a a message tape, then switches back to the ID tape, when finished. Sounds something like U.S Navy Fleet or NY HF marine radio , message broadcast system (may be?) Key here is messages are just broadcast maybe at a schedule time) as they are issued and acknowledgment is on another channel. Flaw in that reasoning is Navy is just about all RATT or satellite based now. But Haifa Naval Radio 4XZ (spooks id M22) is still behaving exactly like a pre-WMARC 1979 Coast Radio Station. Still sending out their ID tape VVV = = 4XZ 4XZ repeat . , and their encrypted traffic on schedule, as well as lists of call signs for which traffic is held, and acknowledgments received. So much so you would think they are in a time-warp. Could I suggest you compare what you are hearing on your radio with with 4XZ which is very nice machine sent morse around 19 wpm, try 6606Kcs, 6378Kcs, 5500Kcs (a bit weak here) , or 4330,Kcs which are all very strong in Western Europe (9*W) around 2100z (GMT) nightly. best of luck and good hunting Dave __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Did you happen to record it Ernie Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:20, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My little Walkman radio picked-up an unusual series of morse code messages on Wed. Feb. 6. I discovered it on 1630 on the AM dial. It was broadcast from 11pm until it faded out at 1am Thursday morning. I was in Ashland, Oregon at the time. The loop sounded almost like a distress signal and then it was interrupted by a long string of morse code. The code continued to interrupt the original loop, every ten minutes or so, with a new string of morse code. The long-string changed...so the message was different each time. I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before Just thought I would send it along to you. Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Did it sound something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1mlponX_jw I can hear a similar thing on my (old, not very selective) car radio whenever my phone is nearby. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My little Walkman radio picked-up an unusual series of morse code messages on Wed. Feb. 6. I discovered it on 1630 on the AM dial. It was broadcast from 11pm until it faded out at 1am Thursday morning. I was in Ashland, Oregon at the time. The loop sounded almost like a distress signal and then it was interrupted by a long string of morse code. The code continued to interrupt the original loop, every ten minutes or so, with a new string of morse code. The long-string changed...so the message was different each time. I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before Just thought I would send it along to you. Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Maybe it's that Dornan guy on the lam trying to contact a buddy? Tracy Johnson BT On 02/11/13, Lucien Van Elsen wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Did it sound something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1mlponX_jw I can hear a similar thing on my (old, not very selective) car radio whenever my phone is nearby. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Ruthie Rader ruth.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My little Walkman radio picked-up an unusual series of morse code messages on Wed. Feb. 6. I discovered it on 1630 on the AM dial. It was broadcast from 11pm until it faded out at 1am Thursday morning. I was in Ashland, Oregon at the time. The loop sounded almost like a distress signal and then it was interrupted by a long string of morse code. The code continued to interrupt the original loop, every ten minutes or so, with a new string of morse code. The long-string changed...so the message was different each time. I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before Just thought I would send it along to you. Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It's possible that you were near the QTH of an amateur radio operator transmitting in morse code and the rf energy was bleeding into your walkman. Did you try to see if could hear it on other parts of the dial? On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Ruthie Rader wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My little Walkman radio picked-up an unusual series of morse code messages on Wed. Feb. 6. I discovered it on 1630 on the AM dial. It was broadcast from 11pm until it faded out at 1am Thursday morning. I was in Ashland, Oregon at the time. The loop sounded almost like a distress signal and then it was interrupted by a long string of morse code. The code continued to interrupt the original loop, every ten minutes or so, with a new string of morse code. The long-string changed...so the message was different each time. I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before Just thought I would send it along to you. Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list : I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before I suggest you monitor that frequency regularly, try to figure out what you heard. Use your original walkman receiver, when you pick it up again, switch to another, see if it's consistent. Kurt __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list That's a good point. I was just thinking that myself. A lot of us are into contesting, or radiosport, where a goal is to contact as many other radio amateurs as possible within a time period. Most ham radio contests are on weekends, but not all of them. It's possible some amateur radio contest activity took place on a Wednesday. A station will often run other stations, that is, sit on one frequency and call CQ and respond to to their replies. The exchanges are usually short and repetitive, e.g. on Morse code 5NN 08. Others do what's called Search and Pounce. These are the people who answer the running stations. You would hear these people sending their own callsigns over and over, followed by the 5NN 05 or whatever. Some of the exchanges used in various contests are not so repetitive. If you heard a station running other stations on one frequency, it might sound like what you described. The 160 meter band is not too far above 1630 kHz. It's possible you were actually hearing someone in that band. If you hear it again, try to get a recording of it. 73, Zack W9SZ On 2/11/13, David Goren shortwaveol...@mac.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It's possible that you were near the QTH of an amateur radio operator transmitting in morse code and the rf energy was bleeding into your walkman. Did you try to see if could hear it on other parts of the dial? On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Ruthie Rader wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list My little Walkman radio picked-up an unusual series of morse code messages on Wed. Feb. 6. I discovered it on 1630 on the AM dial. It was broadcast from 11pm until it faded out at 1am Thursday morning. I was in Ashland, Oregon at the time. The loop sounded almost like a distress signal and then it was interrupted by a long string of morse code. The code continued to interrupt the original loop, every ten minutes or so, with a new string of morse code. The long-string changed...so the message was different each time. I have never heard anything like it in that part of Oregon, before Just thought I would send it along to you. Sincerely, Ruth Rader __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ruth and Zack, I checked the ARRL Newsletter for any Amateur contest or other radiosporting event on Feb 6/7 but didn't find any. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have been someone working a little DX, especially if propagation was good that night. (I wasn't on the air then so don't know what conditions were like.) From another point of view, I see that Ashland is near the coast. I wonder if there might be a commercial station in the Maritime Service that is on the right frequency and strong enough that it would cause an RF image in your receiver on 1630 kHz. I know that many maritime mobile and fixed stations operate in the 2.0 to 3 MHz band, for example. ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Most of that traffic has moved up to satellite and no one runs cw from a fixed station anymore but KPH on special occasions. And they are down by San Francisco Doc W2MFT --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Martin VE3OAT ve3...@storm.ca wrote: From: Martin VE3OAT ve3...@storm.ca Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 7:36 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ruth and Zack, I checked the ARRL Newsletter for any Amateur contest or other radiosporting event on Feb 6/7 but didn't find any. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have been someone working a little DX, especially if propagation was good that night. (I wasn't on the air then so don't know what conditions were like.) From another point of view, I see that Ashland is near the coast. I wonder if there might be a commercial station in the Maritime Service that is on the right frequency and strong enough that it would cause an RF image in your receiver on 1630 kHz. I know that many maritime mobile and fixed stations operate in the 2.0 to 3 MHz band, for example. ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Since the IF frequency of most radios is 455 KHz for AM recption, that would make the received (mirror image) frequency 1630 + 455 = 2085 KHz. Some use 472 KHz and that could make the received frequency 2102 KHz. Rene - VE6WCA On 13-02-11 05:36 PM, Martin VE3OAT wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Ruth and Zack, I checked the ARRL Newsletter for any Amateur contest or other radiosporting event on Feb 6/7 but didn't find any. But that doesn't mean it couldn't have been someone working a little DX, especially if propagation was good that night. (I wasn't on the air then so don't know what conditions were like.) From another point of view, I see that Ashland is near the coast. I wonder if there might be a commercial station in the Maritime Service that is on the right frequency and strong enough that it would cause an RF image in your receiver on 1630 kHz. I know that many maritime mobile and fixed stations operate in the 2.0 to 3 MHz band, for example. ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list But wouldn't the frequencies thus calculated actually be the local oscillator frequencies. And the RF image (transmitter) frequencies be another 455 or 472 kHz above them? But Doc makes a good point - nobody runs CW in that band anymore. ... Martin VE3OAT On 11/02/2013 19:44, Rene Matthijssen wrote: Since the IF frequency of most radios is 455 KHz for AM recption, that would make the received (mirror image) frequency 1630 + 455 = 2085 KHz. Some use 472 KHz and that could make the received frequency 2102 KHz. Rene - VE6WCA __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 02/11/2013 16:45, KD7JYK DM09 wrote: I suggest you monitor that frequency regularly, try to figure out what you heard. Use your original walkman receiver, when you pick it up again, switch to another, see if it's consistent. Yes, and get a recording if possible. I'm intrigued by this and would like to find out what it is. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Could it have been a MW station doing an on-air test? Have heard them do tests before and they can have odd sounds whatnot. Greg Minneapolis, MN On Feb 11, 2013, at 21:00 , Tom Sevart n2...@rlrnews.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On 02/11/2013 16:45, KD7JYK DM09 wrote: I suggest you monitor that frequency regularly, try to figure out what you heard. Use your original walkman receiver, when you pick it up again, switch to another, see if it's consistent. Yes, and get a recording if possible. I'm intrigued by this and would like to find out what it is. -- Tom Sevart N2UHC St. Paul, KS __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes they do but commerical operations do not Doc W2MFT --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:24 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list CIS Navy uses CW a lot still. Lowest freqs I have in my list are: 0,583 2,230.5 2,490 2,525 2,776 -- Semper Reluctor __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Fromm Wikipedia regarding cw operations in commercial service: By the 1990s few ship stations were equipped for Morse code or had any use for it, so coast stations re-allocated their Morse frequencies to other uses. Some stations disappeared from the airwaves altogether, as did KPH after being acquired by Globe Wireless in 1997.[2] Its Morse code traffic was then diverted to other stations such as KFS in Half Moon Bay, California, another Globe Wireless station. KFS continued to handle Morse code traffic until July 13, 1999 (Universal time; actually July 12 in the Pacific time zone) when it made its last ever Morse transmission, ceremonially marking the supposed end of commercial Morse code usage in America (as distinct from amateur Morse code usage, which continues). This anniversary is commemorated on the air every July as the Night of Nights by KPH and other coast radio stations, along with radio amateurs who participate on their own frequencies.[4][5] --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:49 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes they do but commerical operations do not Doc W2MFT --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:24 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list CIS Navy uses CW a lot still. Lowest freqs I have in my list are: 0,583 2,230.5 2,490 2,525 2,776 -- Semper Reluctor __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I generally agree, however, I still here bizarre, and out of place things on HF. Maybe its because I am up in Alaska? I dunno. But to just look at ONLY licensed and known stations or solutions seems a bit odd to me, considering we're talking HF and on the spooks group. Probably is something easy to explain, but then again, maybe not. I located some kind of marker tones last summer. They stayed around for a month or so, doppler shifted a bit up the band, but generally in the same spot, and after another month the signal got weaker and weaker and finally was gone. It was listed nowhere. So, I have no clue what it was, or where it was, or how much propagation was involved. I also had a ship in harbor that one night threw some odd teletype transmissions, that darned near bent the signal strength needle on my receiver. So, it was point blank, right here, but again, not exactly normal. So, I am not convinced, just for the sake of argument, that this is something obvious, until we can hear it and identify it. Morse code with data streams could have been someone sending code in lieu of not being able to get some kind of SITOR mode up and running. __ Semper Reluctor __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list This is a page from KPH describing the end of morse and the high seas. http://jproc.ca/radiostor/kph.html It is sad for me to read articles like this as I grew up listening to all those stations and it is how I learned the code in the first place, by listening to these guys calling and handling traffic. Every year in July, KPH gets on and handles some traffic, several museum ships get on and work them. They send the weather and if you have an amateur license you can get on and work k6kph, their Amateur station. WLO also gets on with their qsx messages and weather. At the end of the evening they have a special message to all listening, and they do qsl. It makes me remember the better times when you could copy ships and coastal stations from around the world, when the bands were crowded with traffic, and I was struggling with the code. Then I thought 20 wpm was fast...lol. Now I use paddles, a straight key or my old coffin bug from Lafayette radio. Thanks for asking these questions and I hope I haven't said too much as its not spooks but I was lucky to have grown up in such timeswhen you could feel the heat and see the tubes glow... Thanks guys, for making me remember! Doc W2MFT --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:52 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Fromm Wikipedia regarding cw operations in commercial service: By the 1990s few ship stations were equipped for Morse code or had any use for it, so coast stations re-allocated their Morse frequencies to other uses. Some stations disappeared from the airwaves altogether, as did KPH after being acquired by Globe Wireless in 1997.[2] Its Morse code traffic was then diverted to other stations such as KFS in Half Moon Bay, California, another Globe Wireless station. KFS continued to handle Morse code traffic until July 13, 1999 (Universal time; actually July 12 in the Pacific time zone) when it made its last ever Morse transmission, ceremonially marking the supposed end of commercial Morse code usage in America (as distinct from amateur Morse code usage, which continues). This anniversary is commemorated on the air every July as the Night of Nights by KPH and other coast radio stations, along with radio amateurs who participate on their own frequencies.[4][5] --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Christmas Peter christmaspe...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:49 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Yes they do but commerical operations do not Doc W2MFT --- On Mon, 2/11/13, Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Todd Dokey justcallmebu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Morse Code Broadcast To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 10:24 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list CIS Navy uses CW a lot still. Lowest freqs I have in my list are: 0,583 2,230.5 2,490 2,525 2,776 -- Semper Reluctor __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
