Re: [spring] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion-07.txt

2019-09-20 Thread Joel M. Halpern
I see where the draft defines a set of constraints. The constraint that there be no other extension headers is a fairly drastic constraint, which would seem a cause for concern. Putting that aside however, the draft does not seem to provide any explanation for why insertion rather than

[spring] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-voyer-6man-extension-header-insertion-07.txt

2019-09-20 Thread Darren Dukes (ddukes)
Hello everyone, we’ve just submitted an updated draft that explains why SRH insertion is performed in an SR domain, how it is accomplished and why it is safe within the SR domain. The authors look forward to your comments and suggestions on how to improve this document. Thanks! Darren (on

Re: [spring] A note on CRH and on going testing

2019-09-20 Thread SING Team
Hi Ron, Yes I believe both Binding SID is an important design for inter-domain signaling, and it is easy to add some mechanisms for SRv6+ to achieve similar function of Binding SID.  :) But I’m not sure if it is feasible to bind one IPv6 address to ‘BSID’ in SRv6+, because as shown in

[spring] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-02.txt

2019-09-20 Thread Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
Dear SPRING, As mentioned last week we have just submitted a new revision of draft-ietf-srv6-network-programming. This is only an editorial update that brings the pseudocode definition in consistency with the SRH. Early next week we will submit another revision only with the split of the

[spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-02.txt

2019-09-20 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking WG of the IETF. Title : SRv6 Network Programming Authors : Clarence Filsfils Pablo

Re: [spring] A note on CRH and on going testing

2019-09-20 Thread Ron Bonica
Hi Jeff, It would be easy enough to add a binding SID to SRv6+. Given customer demand, I would not be averse to adding one. However, there is another way to get exactly the same behavior on the forwarding plane without adding a new SID type. Assume that on Node N, we have the following SFIB

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Ron, No one is questioning that. If packet's destination is not a local address of a router all options can be ignored. Fun however starts when destination address in the packet *is* a local address on the router ie. the router is acting as Segment Endpoint. Thx, R. On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Gyan Mishra
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2019, at 10:43 PM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > Gyan, > > IPFRR doesn’t use/need any IGP extensions and is local to the device > computing LFA. > As RTGWG chair - I welcome you to read a number of rather well written RFCs > on the topic we have published in

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Ron Bonica
Likewise, SP core routers would ignore the PSSI and wouldn’t even see the PPSI. Ron From: Dirk Steinberg Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 7:40 PM To: Tom Herbert Cc: Darren Dukes (ddukes) ; xie...@chinatelecom.cn; SPRING WG ; 6man

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Stewart, Yes this is exactly what I was trying to say. Your definition of TI-LFA as expressed below is spot on: "I think a better description for the technology is that it is not constrained by topology, i.e. that you can create the repair path regardless of the topology, although the more

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 20/09/2019 09:44, Robert Raszuk wrote: TI - stands for Topology Independent ... all other LFA modes rely on topologies to be able to compute or not the backup path. Well so does TI-LFA. At some level you have to know the topology to calculate *any* path in SR, else how do you know what

Re: [spring] “SRV6+” complexity in forwarding

2019-09-20 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Gyan, > So now talking SRv6 with Ti LFA why is there an EH insertion as we are > not using mpls LDP and not doing remote LFA and this is not the traditional > mpls TE FRR. TI - stands for Topology Independent ... all other LFA modes rely on topologies to be able to compute or not the backup